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  1. #1 Why do atomic clocks differ? 
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    Here is the answer as to why atomic clocks differ on airplanes as compared to earth and its real simple folks. You see there are about 3 satellites in space that coordinate with each other on their atomic clocks. I am not going to go into how a atomic clock works, but it tries to keep track of the earth rotation on its axis per solar day.

    There is no mystery as to why the difference between on earth and in the sky. The difference is due to the distance travelled from space to the air is shorter than the distance travelled to earth and its very minute. There's your answer folks and nothing weird going on. A simple delay due to distance on when the signal arrived. Just like what happens with sound waves.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mauriecb
    Here is the answer as to why atomic clocks differ on airplanes as compared to earth and its real simple folks. You see there are about 3 satellites in space that coordinate with each other on their atomic clocks. I am not going to go into how a atomic clock works, but it tries to keep track of the earth rotation on its axis per solar day.

    There is no mystery as to why the difference between on earth and in the sky. The difference is due to the distance travelled from space to the air is shorter than the distance travelled to earth and its very minute. There's your answer folks and nothing weird going on. A simple delay due to distance on when the signal arrived. Just like what happens with sound waves.
    nope

    Apparently you are ignorant of the relativistic effects of both relative motion and gravitational fields. Google it and maybe learn something.

    In fact your ignorance of many principles of basic physics is most impressive.

    Please confine this sort of crap to the Pseudoscience forum where it belongs.


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    its called time skewing within computing clocks and its also called the time it takes for a computer to process the information. Its already been proven in scientific labs, but you wouldn't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mauriecb
    Here is the answer as to why atomic clocks differ on airplanes as compared to earth and its real simple folks. You see there are about 3 satellites in space that coordinate with each other on their atomic clocks. I am not going to go into how a atomic clock works, but it tries to keep track of the earth rotation on its axis per solar day.

    There is no mystery as to why the difference between on earth and in the sky. The difference is due to the distance travelled from space to the air is shorter than the distance travelled to earth and its very minute. There's your answer folks and nothing weird going on. A simple delay due to distance on when the signal arrived. Just like what happens with sound waves.
    Not sure if this is going to make the slightest bit of difference judging by your apparent conviction in what you have said but here are some links which I hope will help:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravita..._time_dilation
    http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/gps-relativity.asp
    http://physicscentral.org/explore/writers/will.cfm
    http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/einstein...e_dilation.htm
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    I'll throw in, really quickly, that GPS does not use absolute time measurements (which are impossible to get accurately), but relative measurements (which is why they need multiple satelites).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mauriecb
    Here is the answer as to why atomic clocks differ on airplanes as compared to earth and its real simple folks. You see there are about 3 satellites in space that coordinate with each other on their atomic clocks. I am not going to go into how a atomic clock works, but it tries to keep track of the earth rotation on its axis per solar day.

    There is no mystery as to why the difference between on earth and in the sky. The difference is due to the distance travelled from space to the air is shorter than the distance travelled to earth and its very minute. There's your answer folks and nothing weird going on. A simple delay due to distance on when the signal arrived. Just like what happens with sound waves.
    So you're saying the delay is systematic?

    Simply put, this is not the case. The times are constantly diverging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mauriecb
    Here is the answer as to why atomic clocks differ on airplanes as compared to earth and its real simple folks. You see there are about 3 satellites in space that coordinate with each other on their atomic clocks.
    3? Try about 30 in the GPS system[/quote]
    I am not going to go into how a atomic clock works, but it tries to keep track of the earth rotation on its axis per solar day.
    [/quote]The operation of a atomic clock has nothing to do with the rotation of the Earth. Atomic clocks are responsible for International Atomic Time, whereas the Earth's rotation is responsible for Mean Solar time. Left to themselves they would drift apart, thus every so often a leap second adjustment is made to TAI to keep them in step. But this is neither here nor there, as the experiments done with airplanes and atomic clocks relied on neither International Atomic Time or Mean Solar Time.

    There is no mystery as to why the difference between on earth and in the sky. The difference is due to the distance travelled from space to the air is shorter than the distance travelled to earth and its very minute. There's your answer folks and nothing weird going on. A simple delay due to distance on when the signal arrived. Just like what happens with sound waves.

    Since the HafeleľKeating experiment didn't involve any communication between space and ground, none of this "explanation" is applicable in the least. The experiment involved independent Atomic clocks which were confirmed to be accurate to each other within a given tolerance. The clocks were physically brought together at the end of the experiment and their times compared to show that they differed by a significant amount. The difference was much greater than what could have resulted from any natural drift in the clocks themselves.

    Your post appears to be the result of confusing together a number of different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janus
    The clocks were physically brought together at the end of the experiment and their times compared to show that they differed by a significant amount. The difference was much greater than what could have resulted from any natural drift in the clocks themselves.
    And, moreso, aligned quite nicely with the predictions made by relativity. They knew how much they should differ before they even began the experiment, and the experiment confirmed the expectation to a remarkable degree of accuracy... due to the effectiveness of relativity.
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    Is mauriecb a sockpuppet for a banned fool?
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