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    Hi, i searched Google for best place to get in touch with scientist or some one that may be able to answer my questions. I hope i posted this in the correct section. i will give you a little of explanation what has been going on and trough years i just wan to get some answers.


    Ever since iv noticed as kid around age 15, i dont know if i payed attention to it earlier but i noticed i could see strange particles when i used to close my eyes going to bed, it use to scare me and i wasn't sure what i was seeing, but its like tiny particles that glow flying 360 degrees in my line of vision. Iv never talked to any one about this but after some years i decided to focus and try to see explore this mystery. I realized that after looking onto a geometrical back ground i would see these particles flying around in the air. Almost looks like animation of air atoms or radiation. So i noticed that when i even look on a sunny day against he blue sky i can see the particles very clearly moving around. they flying in every direction. I did some research on my own and believe i could be seeing my own electric static in side my eye or this could be an out side particles like radiation or air molecules. In 8th grade, Science class i remember the teach spoke of air molecules and how no one can see them, and me knowing i see things similar, said, "i can see air" referring to what iv been witnessing. He put me down and said your crazy, no one can see air or molecules, so i felt embarrassed and ashamed i told him and that's when i decided not to tell any one due to embarrassment ... If any one is a real scientist and would like to do some research or question me, let me know, i just would be interested to know what am i seeing. I'm a normal person and lead a normal life with few mysteries in my closet ...


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    What would you say the size of the things you are seeing? By which I mean when you look at them how much of your vision do they take up? Are they tiny specks or large orbs, or is it more like lighting with long strands?

    I have no idea what you are experiencing but you left that information out and it might be helpful.


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    We don't know what you're exactly seeing. Describing more detailed might be helpful. It's normal to see sometimes phosphene by closed eyes. I think it's something natural, but again more details would be helpfully.
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    Well the vision is not 100 Focus but i believe in negative, still see objects relaxed focus but its more concentrated on one section into a centered focal line.

    Yes they are white tiny specs that seem to rotate in a pulsing 3D motion of chaos. No tails or lines.
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    Sounds like something I ...have... which I assume to be the actual rods & cones of my eyes firing, or perhaps signal degradation along the optic nerve. It looks to me like "TV snow", or the shimmer of pixels on a computer screen. The motion and contour (little balls) is a perceptual illusion you get from any randomly twinkling field of noise. Like you I find gazing at a clear blue sky or plain illuminated wall brings this detail into relief.

    I've seen this all my life, and it hasn't increased. It is difficult to explain to people that when we "see blue" we are first sensing other things before forming a picture of "just blue" in our minds. Most will tell you to get your eyes checked if you notice anything else. However I guess your vision is super-acute. Your attention reaches the physical limit of your sight organs.
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    Interesting reply PONG, i read the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphene, what was mentioned and noticed this:



    Other causes

    Phosphenes have also been created by intense, changing magnetic fields, such as with transcranial magnetic stimulation. These fields can be positioned on different parts of the head to stimulate cells in different parts of the visual system. They also can be induced by alternating currents that entrain neural oscillation as with trancranial alternating-current stimulation.[11] In this case they appear in the peripheral visual field.[11]

    Astronauts exposed to radiation in space report seeing phosphenes.

    You think the body can have high presence then normal of Electrical magnetic fields? Some thins i also witnessed over the years working late shifts, i would drive home and as soon as i got close or near a light pole they would turn off, at time of moths, many days in a row i would get electric shock when i touched object, mostly car door. And noticed when i wake up early in the morning or my mind is thinking hard my computer screen would obscure in color and flicker, so im wondering if this is symptoms of a high electric field in the body or maybe radiation poisoning? I live in New York but was born in Ukraine on the year of Chernobyl nuclear explosion in 1986.




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    I don't think what you're seeing is weird. What's weird is that you're conscious of the way your individual nerves fire on/off, rather sloppily, to form the complete and simplified image we normally imagine our eyes convey.

    Sporadic firing even under total darkness is perfectly normal and healthy. We're supposed to report seeing "nothing but black" under these conditions but that just ain't how eyes function. So you noticed this, that's nice, don't fret about it.
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    What you described in original post just sound like floaters in the liquid of your eye. I get it quite bad, they are most annoying when they cross the center of your vision.
    Beside being an annoyance, they are nothing to worry about.
    they are most noticeable when looking at bright surface, or the sky.

    Also once your attention has been brought to them, they seem more prominent. Like right now i can see a couple drifting across my monitor.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floater

    as well as floaters and phosphene there is another common visual effect caused by the Anatomy of the eye:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_fi...tic_phenomenon
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    It's not floaters. I have one tiny floater and can also see ONY86's "atoms" quite apart from it. Floaters drift lazily, lag behind eye movements, and they're larger than the finest resolution possible.

    My point is that the finest resolution possible is what's actually being perceived, analogous to perceiving pixels on a computer monitor. The medium is the message. Our human "pixels" differ in that they twinkle on and off asynchronously, with a bit of noise and interference. So they can appear to move or have some form in themselves.
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    well that sounds like Blue field entoptic phenomenon, which I also mentioned.

    I dont think its possible to perceive your cones firing asynchronously or "sloppily". Your not taking into account persistence of vision, which if its enough to make a 24 HZ television seem smooth, Im pretty sure its enough to counter extremely short random firings of cones or noise and interference as you put it.

    Are you saying he is seeing some kind of electrical noise caused by his cones?
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    since u guys came up with this "problem", i have to say that i too can see the same particles as pong and ONY86. yeah these particles seems to be white in color..
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    Well next time its a sunny day ill look up at the sky and watch out for it. I cant seem to see anything except the usual effects even looking at a whited out monitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harvestein
    well that sounds like Blue field entoptic phenomenon, which I also mentioned.
    Yeah, very close. If ONY86's particles are confined to small areas or especially tracks in the visual field, then that's it. If visible across the whole field I still feel he's "looking at" his own nerve states.

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    Are you saying he is seeing some kind of electrical noise caused by his cones?
    Well, again, I'd say this technically doesn't qualify as "seeing". It's perceiving - yes: noise. Noise in the nerves themselves. If you've got millions (wild guess) of nerves set on hairtrigger they're bound to produce continuous background noise. The brain normally filters this out.

    For analogy try the back of your hand. Just focus on what the skin feels like this instant. I can feel the nerves tingling a bit... tingling for no apparent reason other than they're alive and normally fire sporadically maybe just to keep fit. Of course the brain normally filters out these meaningless signals.
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    and in addition to that, i can hear "my own self" very loudly if i could concentrate, and its very silent ( not the heart beat, but a continuous, kinda high pitch sound).
    i too think its biological thing.
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    Defiantly not floaters, but i seen floaters before, sounds like Blue field entoptic phenomenon, but even that doesn't explain full research what it may be, like pong says, you can see the particles against many objects, not just the blue sky.
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    and in addition to that, i can hear "my own self" very loudly if i could concentrate, and its very silent ( not the heart beat, but a continuous, kinda high pitch sound).
    Could be Tinnitus

    Yes you might think you can feel nerve interference in your hand, but your attempts to feel it are probably what is creating the sensation. Problem with all this is that it is subjective, you cant confirm if the stimulation exists or your mind is putting it there because your looking for it.

    It is very interesting though. Some people get tinnitus when they have toothache. Like the nervous system is very active and there is some cross-interference in the brain or nervous system. I tend to hear it when i cant sleep and have been awake a long time.

    Anyhow i think this thread is more suited to a biology forum.
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    I can see it too =)
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    glad i could find some related post of what i experience.
    it happens at times, in a certain angle of eye i can see some kind of particles randomly moving, they are light gold in color at the head and fades out to light silver color towards the tail.
    i am sure there is some science involved for this experience and would like to know. thanks
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    Has anyone ever seen black&white grid when they are startled? I've seen them twice in my whole life (was really startled) and it is real and you couldn't see anything else for a split second when it happen.
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    These energetic particles are not necessarily explained by science, though there are some scientists that have explained them. What you are seeing is something that we see, and not everyone has this ability. The energetic particles are more visible on bright sunny days, in fields and parks, especially next to streams, rivers and lakes. This is a subtle or spiritual energy. Because this is outside the realm of what normal science is today, and there is a general lack of spirituality in today's world, I won't push the subject any further. Rather I will just leave you with the thought, and it will become something for you to explore and meditate on. This is no way religious, and is meant to reach into your own spirituality. Lucky you How to Sense Subtle Etheric Spiritual Energy
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    Hello ONY86, I have just gone onto google to ask the same question as you. You are not alone I see exactly the same thing as you. I am female and have always seen it too with the same usual responses that it must be dust or something to do with my eyes. I have perfect vision so it's not an impairment. It's not dust as you and I well know. I would describe it as seeing the air. I see what I will call minute particles which move randomly and squiggle in the air, almost like millions of sperm. I see bright white ones, I see almost see black ones which are different to the white ones and they both appear appear to be floating in dense grey matter, which is like blobs if you like. There is no nothingness if you like, about the air. It is all something. Made up of those 3 elements that I see. I am not a scientist, just a regular person so I would love to know what it is. It is best seen looking at the sky of course during the day. But you can see it if you look at an area with a lot of light. It is dense, all over, and although the movement is random, it is uniform....if that makes sense. The white ones appear to be electrically charged and they sparkle really brightly. Although it is always there, it is something that I can choose to see or not. Kind of like those pictures that appear blank but if you look at them correctly the image appears. It is not anything that affects me or obscures my vision or affects me in anyway. I can choose to see it or not to see it. If I look AT the air/sky I see 'NOTHINGNESS' but if I look INTO the air/sky I see EVERYTHING. I see the atompshere, so to speak. I hope this makes sense to you all.
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    Didn't even know this thread existed. Yeah, I get that, too. It's as if I see individual photons striking my retina, though I doubt that's what it is. I've wondered about it, but not heavily enough, I guess, to look up an answer. It seems relatively common...
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    Well now, here is a very interesting topic. Thank you all for the "enlightning" information. I have also experienced this, however, just a tad different. My experience with this has always been outside, on a wide open area (normally the sea), with the sun behind me and at about one to two hours before sundown. The "particles" are a bit darker, and flow like the Enterprise going into warpspeed. Never understood it, never really cared. It didn't hurt or stop me from doing things.

    Just a side note - I think my experience might be different because I only have the one eye working.
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    Could also be cosmic rays scintillating in your eye sockets.
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    I have always assumed it is just random noise in the photo-receptors. I don't know if some people have "noisier" eyes than others or if some people are just more aware of it. (I have never been aware of it myself, but quite a few people have mentioned it.)
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    (I have never been aware of it myself, but quite a few people have mentioned it.)
    I mentioned it once to my obstetrician that I had these black/white things in my vision. Oh, don't worry about that, he replied airily, that's just parts of your retina detaching. Great! For a woman hospitalised for 6 weeks before a baby's due to be born, we have worries enough without someone just saying bits of your retina are falling off when it feels as though other parts of your body are already disintegrating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanderbilt View Post
    These energetic particles are not necessarily explained by science, though there are some scientists that have explained them. What you are seeing is something that we see, and not everyone has this ability. The energetic particles are more visible on bright sunny days, in fields and parks, especially next to streams, rivers and lakes. This is a subtle or spiritual energy. Because this is outside the realm of what normal science is today, and there is a general lack of spirituality in today's world, I won't push the subject any further. Rather I will just leave you with the thought, and it will become something for you to explore and meditate on. This is no way religious, and is meant to reach into your own spirituality. Lucky you How to Sense Subtle Etheric Spiritual Energy
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    Don't feel bad that you are different. I, like you, can see the air particles too. I've been able to see them my whole life however. They are almost microscopic and fly super sonic fast in different directions. They have no color, but reflect light in such a way that they look like they have color in dim lighting. I have no idea what they are, I think they are air particles because they fit the description of air. I know they aren't in my eye because they go in the same direction the wind is blowing and they move when I move my hand through the air in the same direction. I'm sorry I can't tell you what they are, but it makes me feel better knowing I'm not the only one. PS: if you have experiences with " ghosts" ( demons) then please reply as well. Thank you and please reply soon.
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    It's called 'dust'.

    Is this be a stupid poster day?
    Its the way nature is!
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    To another universe, where the rules are simpler
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    It's called 'dust'.
    Exactly. I, too, have seen it my whole life.
    Dust can appear as infinitesimal streaks of light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tambra star View Post
    They are almost microscopic and fly super sonic fast
    Supersonic?
    Really?

    in different directions.
    Not according to you:
    they go in the same direction the wind is blowing and they move when I move my hand through the air in the same direction.
    They have no color, but reflect light in such a way that they look like they have color in dim lighting.
    What do you think colour is?

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    I'll study this in more detail in the morning when I can see straight. I'm so tired right now that I can't see very clearly. Until then learn about opthalmic migrains and see if it ffits what you're oner
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    I often experience "stars", but that's low blood pressure. I recall seeing "dust" as well. Do any of you ever see dark spheres? Hard to describe, but they're small dark sphere shapes and they're transparent. It appears as if they move, slowly though. Almost gives the illusion that the spheres are floating? I don't know, hard to describe - but anyone ever see something like that, or have an idea what it could be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stander-j View Post
    Do any of you ever see dark spheres? Hard to describe, but they're small dark sphere shapes and they're transparent. It appears as if they move, slowly though. Almost gives the illusion that the spheres are floating? I don't know, hard to describe - but anyone ever see something like that, or have an idea what it could be?
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    Drumming in the ears, thinking you see spots, thinking you can feel x-rays... Man, the internet.

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    That could very possibly be it Strange, but if memory serves from the last time I've noticed the image, they've kind of got a three-dimensional thing going on - as though they have a depth. It's been a while since I've seen floaters too, so I don't quite remember whether or not those also appear as though they have depth.What I can say, is that I have never seen one of these sphere things trail off after blinking - which is something I have experienced with floaters. I'll have to see if can take notice of one today.
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    I can actually see this particles of light , i think everyone can see them . You don't need to focus on a specific object , find the center of something and start watching the hole object but without moving your eyes . In 10-20 seconds you gonna see small particles of light . You are familiar with dust in a flashlight fenomen ? Well basicly you see that but on a small scale . I can enter that state in a few seconds without problems . Thanx for posting this topic .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exudius View Post
    I can actually see this particles of light , i think everyone can see them .
    If we couldn't, the world would be pretty dark.

    If you're suggesting that you can identify individual photons, I'm going to have to disagree.

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    In 10-20 seconds you gonna see small particles of light .
    After 10-20 seconds of staring at a wall, what I'm going to see is my boss glaring at me.

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    You are familiar with dust in a flashlight fenomen ?
    You mean the unexplained ability of the human eye to see large particulate matter in the air when it is well-lit? Hogwash.

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    Well basicly you see that but on a small scale . I can enter that state in a few seconds without problems . Thanx for posting this topic .
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    i got that too. idk if it's dust or w/e, but since i always had it i never cared for it. even being in a dark room or closing my eyes they are there. looks like a negative of snowy tv-screen.
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    I assume it is just "noise" (random firings) of the photo-receptors in your eyes. I don't know if some people's retinas are noisier or some people just happen to notice these things. It is pretty uninteresting.
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    I get all kinds of strange phenomena in my eyes. Sometimes, I get these odd bands of shifting colors at the periphery of my vision. They make take an "L" shape or a linear shape at the corners of my field of view. I was fairly concerned about those.

    As for the static, I see that when I close my eyes, too. I always just assumed it was my eyes sending information when there just wasn't much to send. Seeing as I can't actually shut them off when I close my eyes, I figured they were just trying to compensate for the darkness of my closed lids. If you leave a camera running in a dark room, you sometimes see "things".
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    Planetary and lunar atmospheres involve some particulates. Many such particles range in size from visible to microscopic, as air pollution scientists can attest. The Earth's atmosphere is pretty thick compared to Mar's atmosphere but there are still much particulates in the Martian atmosphere according to our measurements.

    At the right angle between the sun and the shade most people can see many particulates in the Earth's air. The dust particulates inside one's house, for instance, is largely composed of discarded human skin.
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    OH NO! Its a symptom of the black plague. Those little wriggly things are eating your brain as we speak.LOL Nar! everyone sees this if they care to look. I read something on it years ago, I think from memory it was dust particles and brownian motion? I noticed it when I was a kid looking (staring)at a clear blue sky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ONY86 View Post
    Interesting reply PONG, i read the Phosphene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, what was mentioned and noticed this:



    Other causes

    Phosphenes have also been created by intense, changing magnetic fields, such as with transcranial magnetic stimulation. These fields can be positioned on different parts of the head to stimulate cells in different parts of the visual system. They also can be induced by alternating currents that entrain neural oscillation as with trancranial alternating-current stimulation.[11] In this case they appear in the peripheral visual field.[11]

    Astronauts exposed to radiation in space report seeing phosphenes.

    You think the body can have high presence then normal of Electrical magnetic fields? Some thins i also witnessed over the years working late shifts, i would drive home and as soon as i got close or near a light pole they would turn off, at time of moths, many days in a row i would get electric shock when i touched object, mostly car door. And noticed when i wake up early in the morning or my mind is thinking hard my computer screen would obscure in color and flicker, so im wondering if this is symptoms of a high electric field in the body or maybe radiation poisoning? I live in New York but was born in Ukraine on the year of Chernobyl nuclear explosion in 1986.




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    I don't if it's ever been approached scientifically, but yeah you meet people all the time who report, for example, that they can't wear a wrist watch because the battery spontaneously drains, or that contact with metal seriously irritates their skin. And I wouldn't be surprised if some people are more susceptible to building up a static electric charge.

    Your body is made up of chemicals, with lots of acids, bases, and salts floating around in there. If you mix the right chemicals in the wrong places, then it's just like a lead-acid battery. It's easy to build up an electric potential. Of course it couldn't be too large an electric potential or it would kill you or something, but a small electric potential shouldn't do too much harm.

    I don't know how it would affect your eyes, though.
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    yeah thats another thing. i killed around 4-5 wrist watches already. after aprrox. a week they just stopped working(they start to lack behind after 2-3 days). i cant wear jewelry or belts either unless it's real gold or platinum, and since i lack the pocket change i do without.
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