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    An atom is made up of nucleus and the electrons moving in orbit round it.

    1.Can it be related to the solar system i.e. the sun in the centre and the planets moving round.

    2.Can it be related to the planets having moon orbiting round it.


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    With atoms, you have to apply the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle. You can never really be sure of the location of a given electron, you can only predict where it probably is with accuracy but not precision.

    With the solar system, the electron analogs -planets, moons, asteroids, etc- can be predicted and located consistently and with much precision.


    Most chemistry teachers/instructors find it useful to explain atoms using a diagram similar to the solar system, probably based on Bohr's model which has protons & neutrons in the center surrounded by eliptical rings of electron shells.



    However, modern concepts of atoms are shifted to an electron field, where there is a field that electrons are plotted based on probability.



    Atoms have electron fields that take on predictable shapes:



    Useful Links

    http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/phy...chapter13.html
    http://wine1.sb.fsu.edu/chm1045/note...r2/Atoms03.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom
    http://focus.aps.org/story/v13/st15

    The last link goes into detail comparing the solar system to atoms.


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    The principle of rotation is the easiest way to create balance, anyway.. i never seen more than 1 planet on the same line of orbit. And i also never seen a sun with that much mass comparing to the other planets.

    rotation is the best way to preserve energy, like the wheel and millions of other rotation based machines or equipment.
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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    Quote Originally Posted by anand_kapadia
    An atom is made up of nucleus and the electrons moving in orbit round it.

    1.Can it be related to the solar system i.e. the sun in the centre and the planets moving round.

    2.Can it be related to the planets having moon orbiting round it.
    No! Electrons do not orbit about a nucleus like planets about a star. That's a very old idea about the atom that has since been proven to be wrong. Someone else already posted the correct diagrams of what electrons around a nucleus look like.

    Electrons around a nucleus are only similar to planets around a star in that in both cases you have something that's attracted to something else.
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