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    OK first off...I am no scientist. I have only begun my studies in physics and what not. But after the oil rig explosion in the gulf and learning about all the coal mine fires that have been burning for years.... are they putting in a serious thought to getting fuel and energy from a safer, less pollutant source? I've heard about cold fusion, which I learned was proven nonexistent, but could it actually exist? Or some other kind of fusion energy source? What other types of clean energy are there?


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    I am the only functioning entity going by the name cold fusion as of now.

    There is normal fusion, solar panel collection via earth based and space based arrays (including dyson rings), earth magnetic field induction, geothermal, hydroelectric, aerothermal, wind turbine, organic thermal/electromagnetic conversion (bacteria or artificial leaves), and the all illusive hyper dimensional.

    There are also various odd energy extraction techniques available, such as using avalanches to generate power, and placing turbines on deep sea thermal vents.


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    Thank you. And with all those other types of resources, why are we still using coal and other such means?
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    Politics among other things. If we stop using oil, many companies with a great investment in equipment used to extract it will go bankrupt; the middle east will also get hit hard.

    Oil and coal are also cheaper in the short run; most people never really grow up and do not come to understand the idea of investment. They can only think about what is best for them in the short run. They also tend to forget that they have past generations to thank for not completely destroying the world; they should at least give that back to society in the form of paving a good future for the next generation.

    Besides the large investment required for these technologies, some of them are technologically difficult to accomplish, such as fusion. It seems that they are catching onto my idea however, so we should expect viable fusion energy in 20 years from now.
    Of all the wonders in the universe, none is likely more fascinating and complicated than human nature.

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    Ok I read this on the Dept of Energy's site. This sounds like a good thing. I also read quite a few articles on physorg.com that states different types of fusion research.

    The next frontier in the quest for fusion power is a sustained, burning (or self-heated) plasma, and the Fusion Energy Sciences Advisory Committee (FESAC) has concluded that the fusion program is technically and scientifically ready to proceed with a burning plasma experiment and has recommended joining the ongoing negotiations to construct the international burning plasma experiment, ITER. The National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences has endorsed this strategy. Based in part on these recommendations and an assessment by the Office of Science of the cost estimate for the construction of ITER, the President has decided that the U.S. should join the ITER negotiations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Fusion
    Besides the large investment required for these technologies, some of them are technologically difficult to accomplish, such as fusion. It seems that they are catching onto my idea however, so we should expect viable fusion energy in 20 years from now.
    I agree with everything you've said here but we should be careful making such predictions. I'm sure there are some elder members here who were told they would be holidaying on Mars by now when they were younger.

    In the immediate future we can expect long established technologies to be refined to limit their impact on the environment and only become replaced once renewables become cheaper.
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    Meh, just a guess. We will see.
    Of all the wonders in the universe, none is likely more fascinating and complicated than human nature.

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

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    This topic makes me think of the alt text of this xkcd strip.

    Anyway, fusion looks promising and could potentially become something in a not too distant future. But I do not think cold fusion is anywhere on the drawing board anymore.

    Here is some short information I found from the ITER project, (attempting to get more power out of fusion than invested in starting it).
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    Haha! Nice comic strip. Indeed that is what some people actual say and mean.
    Of all the wonders in the universe, none is likely more fascinating and complicated than human nature.

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

    "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat1981(England)

    I agree with everything you've said here but we should be careful making such predictions. I'm sure there are some elder members here who were told they would be holidaying on Mars by now when they were younger.
    With fusion power it's worse than that. It's been "just around the corner" for several decades.
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