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  1. #1 The Science Game (demonstrating the scientific method) 
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    This is a game that demonstrates the scientific method. In real science, we try to work out the rules by which the universe functions. In the game, you try to work out the rules by which the game universe functions.

    For this game, the universe will be transformations from English words to numbers. At any time, you can run an experiment by submitting one (or more) words, and you'll get a number back for each one. The goal is to guess the rule by which the number is generated.

    In real life, there's no one to tell us we're right, so we keep trying to find better rules. In the game, I'll tell you when you've got the rule right. In real life, people look for experiments that shows a rule fails. If you guess wrong, I'll show you a word where the rule fails.

    An example:
    rabbit -> 2

    Have fun!

    Edit: I suppose I should mention one place where this isn't similar to real science. In real science, the experiments must be conducted within the universe. In this game, the experimenters/apparati/etc exist outside of it.

    Edit again: Oh yeah. I forgot to mention, if anyone else has any more appropriate ideas for a universe, I'd like to hear them. My universes never seem all that interesting.

    Status:
    Game 1 winner: gc. Rule: The number of consecutive letters, in either direction
    Game 2 winner: gc. Rule: Turn the letters into numbers (a=1, z=26) and sum the digits until you get a single digit number
    Game 3 winner: Arcane_Mathematician. Rule: +1 for each consonant following a consonant, and -1 for each vowel following a vowel.
    Game 4, no winner. Rule: Number of letters minus number of syllables
    Game 5 in progress.


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    I once played a similar game as part of an English course. The teacher invited us to ask him if he likes this or that (anything we could think of), and his answers were quite surprising:

    - Yes I like apples. I like all apples.
    - No I don't like Idared. Or McIntosh.
    - Yes I like swimming.
    - No I don't like water.

    The instructions were that, should anybody guess what is going on, they should not tell the others but join the teacher's game.

    Before long, people were saying (and getting their notions confirmed by the teacher):

    - So you like rubbish, but you don't like nonsense?
    - You like the skipper, but you don't like the captain?
    - You like shooting, and killing, and splitting skulls, and ripping bellies, but you don't like violence?

    The solution to the mystery was that the teacher "liked" anything with a double letter in it.


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    It does sound like a very similar game. The general concept is called inductive reasoning, which, for anyone who doesn't already know, is working out the rules from a set of examples. Since all of science is built on inductive reasoning, I thought it'd be a fun and informative game to play here (if only I could come up with a more relevant universe that was still simple enough to be useable). Anyway, care to run some experiments?
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    More than one, eh?

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    Results:
    Rabbit -> 2
    be -> 1
    a -> 1
    cat -> 1
    attack -> 1
    rabbit -> 2
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    Hm. This isn't very scientific, for I won't waste time trying to conclusively falsify a prediction. Better try one prediction after another, with additional experiments thrown in to boot... i guess. :?

    I predict the result will be 0:

    Luchowski

    (yes I know that's not an "English word")
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    As a counter-hypothesis, I predict that the result for my last name will be 2.
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    Er, hypothesis: last name = 6 consonants divided by 3 vowels. Prediction :first name = 2 by the same rule

    Experiment: Guitarist = 5/4.

    Theorem: There is no string of alphabetics, or concatenation of such strings, however long, that cannot be expressed as a rational number where the numerator is a consonant and the denominator is vowel.

    Proof: Left to the reader
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    Experiment:

    Aeon
    Aqua
    Eaux
    Southern
    Zulu
    John
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarist
    Er, hypothesis: last name = 6 consonants divided by 3 vowels.
    But then cat would be 2, whereas it is a 1, wouldn't it?
    How about the number of unique vowels. That would make "Luchowski" a 3.
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    (Let me know if I miss anything)

    Results:
    Luchowski -> 1
    Guitarist -> 1
    Aeon -> 1
    Aqua -> 1
    Eaux -> 1
    Southern -> 2
    Zulu -> 1
    John -> 1
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    robots
    northern
    robber


    I predict (with low confidence!) northern -> 2 for being first longest word in list.
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    robots -> 2
    northern -> 1
    robber -> 1
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    Any other experiments or guesses at the rule? I was hoping that this wouldn't die out so quickly. Does anyone have any suggestions for a more appropriate game universe, or any suggestions at all?
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    I have a couple experiments:

    Pseudopseudohypoparathyroidism
    Antidisestablishmentarianism

    (from the list of longest words in Wikipedia, in case you are curious)
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    Oh boy... I hope I don't mess these up...

    Pseudopseudohypoparathyroidism -> 2
    Antidisestablishmentarianism -> 2
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    In this universe the voice of God is heard!
    Quote Originally Posted by The Creator
    Oh boy... I hope I don't mess these up...
    That revealed much. The transformation very likely works on words in isolation. It increases in difficulty or complexity with word length. The transformation might not be done at a glance.

    Also, "guess the rule by which the number is generated" suggests simplicity.

    Still I'm stumped. :?

    Just gathering data:

    rabbit
    no
    on
    eat
    ate
    tea
    oat
    tao
    taco
    coat
    rabbit
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    rabbit -> 2
    no -> 2
    on -> 2
    eat -> 1
    ate -> 1
    tea -> 1
    oat -> 1
    tao -> 1
    taco -> 1
    coat -> 1
    rabbit -> 2

    I'll say that, yes, to be a playable game, the rule can be stated in one sentence, and that it transforms one english word to one number. (That should have been clearer in the initial post.)

    Edit: Also, I can't think of many rules that wouldn't be harder to apply to words that long, just because it gets easier to overlook things.
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    Hmmm, I think Pong may be onto something with the anagrams so let's try a few more:

    conversationalists
    conservationalists
    undefinability
    unidentifiably

    and a few more experiments:

    Sequoia
    Rythyms
    Aardvark
    Xylophone
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    conversationalists -> 2
    conservationalists -> 2
    undefinability -> 3
    unidentifiably -> 2

    Sequoia -> 1
    Rythyms -> 1
    Aardvark -> 1
    Xylophone -> 2
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    Hmmm, interesting, the first number 3...and yet I'm still stumped.
    So more experiments:

    late
    later
    elate
    latte
    slate
    relate
    related
    lateral
    acetylate
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    late -> 1
    later -> 1
    elate -> 1
    latte -> 1
    slate -> 1
    relate -> 1
    related -> 2
    lateral -> 1
    acetylate -> 1
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    I'm going to take a huge stab in the dark, and even though I know this is probably wrong I am going to predict 4 for the word understudy.
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    I'm going to guess that the rule is that magi master, being the ineffable rule master, just picks a number. The only evidence that one could hope to aquire to support this hypothesis is if we flood magi master with requests, so that he forgets what he previous denoted a word.

    Of course magi master is not ineffable, and might accidently denote a number to a word differently than before, and then "correct" himself when it is pointed out, thus this hypothesis of mine is unfalsifiable.

    I will play in hopes that I am wrong about that aforementioned hypothesis, as it would make this universe so meaningless... lol

    a
    as
    at
    all
    an
    and
    ant
    ants
    ad
    add
    ads
    adds
    bad
    bat
    bats
    battle
    battles
    battalion
    battalions
    battling
    battled
    dab
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    abduct
    abducts
    duct
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    a
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    f
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    m
    n
    o
    p
    q
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    Indeed the game would be pointless if the numbers didn't mean something, but since I'm trying to make a point, that'd defeat the purpose. Also, I'm big on rules and fair play.

    understudy -> 4 (Good job)

    (any single letter) -> 1

    as -> 1
    at -> 1
    all -> 1
    an -> 1
    and -> 1
    ant -> 1
    ants -> 2
    ad -> 1
    add -> 1
    ads -> 1
    adds -> 1
    bad -> 2
    bat -> 2
    bats -> 2
    battle -> 2
    battles -> 2
    battalion -> 2
    battalions -> 2
    battling -> 2
    battled -> 2
    dab -> 2
    dabs -> 2
    abduct -> 2
    abducts -> 2
    duct -> 1
    ducts -> 2
    duck -> 1
    ducks -> 1

    Phew.
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    Interesting. I think that means I'm on the right track, and yet the rule that I was thinking of does not work every time, so clearly there's more to it.

    edit:
    the words that don't fit my prediction are
    guitarist - 1
    aeon - 1
    northern - 1

    I would have predicted each one would be a 2.
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    What's an example it doesn't work on? (Just so I can make sure I got it right.)
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    MagiMaster, please see my edited post above.
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    Err, yeah, you'd be right. All three should have been a 2.
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    Scrabble score calculator didn't help me... but maybe something there. :?

    Pong
    nope
    Abracadabra

    I predict 3, 3, 3.
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    Pong -> 3
    nope -> 3
    Abracadabra -> 2
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    Ok, in that case I think I've pretty much got it. There is one last (hopefully) experiment that I need to run though:

    monopoly

    My prediction is either 3 or 5, but considering the results of a previous experiment I'd go with 3.

    As for Pong's experiment, my predictions are:
    Pong - 3
    nope - 3
    abracadabra - 2

    edited to add: oops, I swear I didn't cheat, I must have been in the middle of writing this post when the answers were posted.
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    Your understudy snagged it, gc. I just had to guess what you were thinking. Curiously although I think my intuition performed well, I'm at a loss to state the rule concisely. My brain doesn't work that way. :?

    Let's not forget science:

    rabbit
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    monopoly -> 3
    rabbit -> 2

    Edit: Yeah, yall probably figured it out. If either of you want to take over the role of universe for a new round, that'd be fine by me (I think gc got there first, so I think he'd get dibs). Otherwise, I'll start another round after someone states the rule.
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    zen
    Zulu
    zit
    zero
    zoo
    zap
    zeal
    zed
    oz


    xylophone
    axe
    tuxedo
    tax
    taxation

    a
    dame
    deal
    tuba
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    Sounds like fun. Let me just think of a good rule.

    I won't state the rule for the first game in case people still want to keep playing. You can just write game #1 or game #2 so we don't get confused between experiments. I could just start a new thread, but I don't think the moderators would be too happy if we started multiple threads for this game.
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    zen -> 1
    Zulu -> 1
    zit -> 1
    zero -> 1
    zoo -> 1
    zap -> 1
    zeal -> 1
    zed -> 2
    oz -> 1


    xylophone -> 2
    axe -> 1
    tuxedo -> 2
    tax -> 1
    taxation -> 1

    a -> 1
    dame -> 1
    deal -> 2
    tuba -> 2

    gc (and Pong), you can PM me what you've got. Also, if your rule takes a different kind of input, it shouldn't get too confusing (if you want to take that route). And yeah, the game may be related to science, but it's probably not worth having more than one thread for it.
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    Got it. Damn!! That took awhile to catch.
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    i've been going about my experimentation all wrong... give me one last try in Magi's universe and then if i don't get it whatever, start the next round if you'd like

    lemon
    melon

    lived
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    lemon -> 2
    melon -> 2

    lived -> 2
    devil -> 2
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    sent 2 pms, without realizing I'd sent one earlier, I thought for some reason it didn't go through. My bad
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    and a follow up

    mole
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    prediction:

    mole-1
    live-1
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    I only got one PM, so it must not have gone through.

    mole -> 1
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    ok i'm lost... but i have another idea to test

    scratched
    screeched
    scrounged
    scrunched
    strengths
    Aeolian
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    I have a good rule, pretty hard to figure out, but I'm willing to be God if you will try to figure out my method

    Function: My function is U. U takes strings of letters and turns them into a single digit number.

    Examples of U are: , ,

    The rule is simple, but complicated. Any takers? Oh, and like magi's it can be stated in one sentence. (maybe two)

    edit: I apologize, over zealous and made a transcription error. Caught it way late.
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    alright, if someone wants to calculate my priveous experiment for magi's universe, that will be my last attempt at solving his... this is for arcane's universe

    about
    aye
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    For my universe:

    scratched -> 2
    screeched -> 2
    scrounged -> 2
    scrunched -> 2
    strengths -> 2
    Aeolian -> 1

    Arcane, I think gc was going to go next, but if no one gets too confused, I suppose it doesn't hurt to have multiple games running.
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    I don't mind letting Arcane play God for this round. Unless you want to have more than one game running at a time, either way is cool with me.
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    Experiments for Arcane's universe:

    a
    apple
    apples
    applesauce
    Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiMaster
    For my universe:

    scratched -> 2
    screeched -> 2
    scrounged -> 2
    scrunched -> 2
    strengths -> 2
    Aeolian -> 1

    Arcane, I think gc was going to go next, but if no one gets too confused, I suppose it doesn't hurt to have multiple games running.
    sorry for stealing the spotlight, I was really excited and couldn't contain myself. my bad
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    For Arcane's universe:
    bookkeeper
    coffee
    tablet
    battle
    dads
    adds
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    If gc doesn't mind, neither do I. It'd be up to the people wanting to play whether or not 2 games would be too confusing.

    Anyway, experiments:
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    fat
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    mat
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    Arcane your rule scares me. Well, you said strings not words, so here goes..

    babe
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    good experiments pong and GC, i think we've confirmed that letters have the same value no matter how they are arranged, at least when the same number of consonants and vowels are used

    however arcane, this allowing strings of letters instead of words might make this too easy depending on the formula

    cantaloupe
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    Some predictions for Arcane:

    predict - 3
    universe - 5
    test - 1
    guess - 8
    fad - 2
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    7 for 7. I think you know the rule
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    gc, either you're very good at this, or I'm overlooking something obvious.

    Experiments (edit: with predictions, though I know some have been given already):
    a - 1
    ad - 5
    add - 9
    adds - 1
    sad - 6

    And something tougher:
    congradulations - 2

    Hmm... My theory seems to work for everything but bookkeeper, which I would have predicted would be a 4.
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    Looks like you've solved it :-D

    Yeah, I just tried bookkeeper and I got 4 as well, so maybe it's just a mistake (either that or we're both wrong :wink: ).
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    yes, bookkeeper should have been 4, my mistake. Thanks for catching it. and yes, all correct magimaster.
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    Ok, I have an idea for a universe, I just hope it's not too hard (or too easy).
    To start things off:

    universe: 1
    apple: 2
    physics: 2
    science: 1
    Einstein: 0
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    Gc's universe

    a
    abba
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    Ok. To start off with:
    I
    a
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    adds
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    eat
    ate
    tea
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    had
    hag
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    a: 0
    abba: 1
    and: 1
    ant: 1
    ants: 2
    anti: 1
    ad: 0
    ads: 1
    add: 1
    adds: 2
    sad: 0
    eat : -1
    tea: -1
    eta: 0
    had: 0
    hag: 0
    has: 0
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    hat: 0
    bag: 0
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    Rhythmic - 5 or 2
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    and
    hand
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    ale
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    sale
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    stale

    ate
    fate
    gate
    late
    mate
    sate
    slate
    spate
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    and: 1
    hand: 1
    sand: 1
    eel: -1
    feel: -1
    peel: -1
    ale: 0
    bale: 0
    sale: 0
    tale: 0
    stale: 1
    ate: 0
    fate: 0
    gate: 0
    late: 0
    mate: 0
    sate: 0
    slate: 1
    spate: 1
    state: 1
    has: 0
    hat: 0
    hot: 0
    not: 0
    hots: 1
    shot: 1
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    My predictions:

    aeon: -2
    eon: -1
    Rhomboid: 1
    Schizophrenic: 4

    and my letter strings (not words, if that's okay)

    aeiouy: -5
    aeiouym: -5
    gaeiouym: -5
    mhtgrq: 5
    umhtgrq: 5
    umhtgrqa: 5
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    aeon: -2
    eon: -1
    Rhomboid: 1
    Schizophrenic: 4
    aeiouy: -5
    aeiouym: -5
    gaeiouym: -5
    mhtgrq: 5
    umhtgrq: 5
    umhtgrqa: 5

    Good job. Looks like you've figured it out :-D
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    Man, I'm just not getting this one. Anyway, I've added a status section to the original post. I'll add the rule for game 3 once I figure it out, or give up and ask.

    Speaking of: Some more experiments.
    aeiou
    eioua
    iouae
    uoiea
    oieau
    ieauo

    Edit: Aha! I predict that all of those are -4.

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    ok, i'm no good at this, but i'm having fun following... here's a universe(words only, no strings)

    attack = 4
    home = 3
    lemons = 4
    tiger = 3
    vagina= 3
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    aeiou: -4
    eioua: -4
    iouea: -4
    uoiea: -4
    oieau: -4
    ieauo: -4

    Good job.
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    Arcane won the last round, so he'd have first dibs on the next. We can carry on with marcus's game if he doesn't mind though.
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    I'm fine with mister Marcus taking a turn. I honestly think the participation is awesome, so more power to him!
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    Alright. Then some experiments:
    a
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    sand
    stand
    stands
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    hat
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    had
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    a=0
    an=1
    and=2
    sand=3
    stand=4
    stands=5
    strands=6

    hat=2
    hit=2
    hot=2

    had=2
    ham=2
    has=2

    bad=2
    mad=2
    sad=2
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    (this is way too easy, i wasn't thinking much when i made it)
    Dick, be Frank.

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    I'd have it pegged if home=2

    that's throwing me off :?
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    I would have predicted home should be worth 2 points as well. I think Arcane has figured it out.
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    one more experiment and you should be able to figure it out
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    I predict 3 for the word "den"
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    Experiments and predictions:
    hate - 3
    hope - 3
    tome - 3
    team - 3
    tame - 3
    tomb - 3
    soar - 2
    oar - 1

    Anyway, easier is usually better since the difficulty of games like this ramp up very quickly as the rule gets more complex.
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    den = 2

    magi, you got them all right except these two

    soar = 3
    oar = 2

    which is understandable... if you understand the rule, which i think you do, you might want to reference a dictionary to see how you erred
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    Some predictions (I have no idea if these are right or not):

    tea: 2
    real: 3
    here: 3
    forum: 3
    circus: 4
    teeth: 4
    agenda: 3
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    My theory was "the number of consonants plus the number of e's," which mostly works, but no, I don't really understand yet.

    Ah, but your dictionary comment has me thinking of something else. Let's see:
    shove - 3
    thyme - 3
    time - 3
    tomb - 3
    congradulate - 11
    auction - 5
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    GC, these are all correct, good job. Simple, enough for you?
    tea: 2
    real: 3
    here: 3
    forum: 3
    circus: 4
    teeth: 4
    agenda: 3


    Magi
    shove - 4
    thyme - 4
    time - 3
    tomb - 3
    congradulate - 8 (and it's spelled congratulate, which would also be an 8)
    auction - 5
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    interesting, you have been correct, but for the wrong reason GC

    i've given a major hint, did anyone catch it?
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    Eh spelling

    Anyway, I think I've got it. I'll PM you to check.
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    sadly, I can't figure it out at all... I'm totally stumped this round :?
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    Hmmm that is interesting...and the hint doesn't seem to relate to what I was thinking. So, more experiments:

    hi
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    no, there was another hint magi... it apparently made you think
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