Thread: Universal Problem...

Hey, I dont know whether there can be multiple universes. But I have a feeling there might be something beyond right??




(well if i m wrong please correct me. Theories accepted)

It is essentially a pointless question. How will we ever find out? There may be or there may not be, there is really no way to know. Any theories about them are a waste of time and effort.

Originally Posted by kakarot

Hey, I dont know whether there can be multiple universes. But I have a feeling there might be something beyond right??

Does string theory require multiple universes? It does posit on the micro or nano scale dimensions other than the four we are aware of on the macro scale.

(well if i m wrong please correct me. Theories accepted)

Lol. I don't know if you can actually theorize on the possibility of something beyond that is neither identified, observible, testable, or falsifiable. It seems to me more a matter of faith or metaphysics ....

As for a possible multiverse, if science can make testable predictions based on that premise, and then test for and observe those predictions, that might make a case for it.

What do you think?

there is the copenhagen interpretation for the MWI, or the multiverse theory but this is just a theory and thats as good as it gets simply because we cant test this theory.

uh....
Right sir!!

if there are an infinite number of alternate universe then it is reasonable to assume that every possible event has occured an infinite number of times in an infinite number of universes.

This means that someone has invented a machine to destroy all universes and has used it...

I'm still here.

Hence, no multiple universes.

Or that no such machine can be built.

Originally Posted by JekPorkins

if there are an infinite number of alternate universe then it is reasonable to assume that every possible event has occured an infinite number of times in an infinite number of universes.

And why is this a reasonable assumption ?

Better yet, can you prove that this must be the case ? Assumptions are pretty worthless in this context.

I thought the whole idea of multiple universes was that there are an infinite number of them...

If there are an infinite number of discretely alternate universes then all rearrangements of matter must occur an infinite number of times, as is the concept of infinity.

Originally Posted by JekPorkins

If there are an infinite number of discretely alternate universes then all rearrangements of matter must occur an infinite number of times, as is the concept of infinity.

I am stepping well outside my area of expertise, but I believe what you have said is incorrect.

For example, there are an infinite number of numbers in the set of even numbers, yet nowhere in this set do any odd number appear. So it seems one can have infinity without having everything. (I look forward to being unceremoniously debunked by someone who knows infinitely more than me.)

Originally Posted by JekPorkins

If there are an infinite number of discretely alternate universes then all rearrangements of matter must occur an infinite number of times, as is the concept of infinity.

Ophilite is correct. This statement is nonsense. It has nothing to do with "the concept of infinity".

You are attempting to misapply a theorem of probability in a situation in which it does not apply at all. Just for starts there is no probability space in evidence.

Originally Posted by DrRocket

Ophilite is correct.

That's quite disappointing. I was hoping to learn something new.

JekPorkins wrote:
if there are an infinite number of alternate universe then it is reasonable to assume that every possible event has occured an infinite number of times in an infinite number of universes.
This means that someone has invented a machine to destroy all universes and has used it..



Well, well. I sort of dont get it how a machine to destroy the universe could ever have been created!
I could never have!!!!
A man made machine!!!!
I doubt whether it could have ever even destroyed the milky way or even our solar system!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by kakarot

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This means that someone has invented a machine to destroy all universes and has used it..

yep ...

but it also means that the dastardly deed was also undone
by the infinite number of multidimensional heroes
who apprehended the infinite number of maniacs
and destroyed the infinite number of doom-machines
by the judicious use of their infinite number of spacetime-warping doombusters ...