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  1. #1 Electron separation 
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    today, i read an article saying that an electron has now been separated in to two elementary particles known as the :
    a)holons
    b)spinons

    say that these particles were created, which they are, but im saying in minute quantities, what charge do they carry? are they similar to the normal electrons?
    will they have no mass at all despite the fact that electrons already have no mass?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinsbergrelatz
    today, i read an article saying that an electron has now been separated in to two elementary particles known as the :
    a)holons
    b)spinons

    say that these particles were created, which they are, but im saying in minute quantities, what charge do they carry? are they similar to the normal electrons?
    will they have no mass at all despite the fact that electrons already have no mass?

    From what I've read, this split is only possible with groups of electrons (you can't split a isolated electron). The group splits into particles that either have magnetic properties or the electric ones . Thus half the particles would have a charge and the other half none.

    As far as mass goes, the electron does have a mass (9.1 10^31 kilograms).

    Nothing is said about the mass of the individual particles themselves.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinsbergrelatz
    today, i read an article saying that an electron has now been separated in to two elementary particles known as the :
    a)holons
    b)spinons

    say that these particles were created, which they are, but im saying in minute quantities, what charge do they carry? are they similar to the normal electrons?
    will they have no mass at all despite the fact that electrons already have no mass?
    Holons and spinons are not particles, and hence are not constituents of the electron.
    From what I have read they are somewhat reminiscent of "holes" in a semiconductor, which seems to account for the name "holon". Their existence is based on the existence of a large number of electrons, which strikes me as also reminsicent of phonons which are used to describe thermal and electrical conductivity in solid state materials. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonon

    Holons and spinons are mathematical constructs that apply to a large number of electrons in a solid state structure, in this case a structure that restricts electon movement to a single spatial dimension. http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/...ns-holons.html

    Electrons are not massless. They have mass, spin and charge. Apparently the holons and spinons are a manifestation of quantization of the spin and charge in population of electrons with certain constraints. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_mass
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    thank you for the sources and information
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