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  1. #1 Vague question about light 
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    Has there ever been found some relation between some properties of light (its speed, how mass increases as an object nears light speed, the degree to which light is bent by a gravity field, possible energy levels of photons, etc.) and the equation ? Or rather, are there any phenomena ascribed to light/photons that can be reduced to or is described by the equation? I know this is a pretty vague question, but any answer would be welcome. :wink:

    I would still like some more answers on my infinity thread too.


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    What do you mean by “as it nears light speed”? :? All light travels at light speed, no?


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    You were too fast for me, fixed it.
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    Isn't it simple geometry? If the inverse square law was instead an inverse cube law, then light rays would have to bend to provide the additional area between them needed to reduce the flux to what the law predicts. If a light ray bends the one next to it must bend a bit further, or interfere, until eventually you have a recursive light ray going back to where it came from! It seems that an inverse square law is the only one that allows all the light rays to peacefully coexist, at least in this universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunbury
    Isn't it simple geometry? If the inverse square law was instead an inverse cube law, then light rays would have to bend to provide the additional area between them needed to reduce the flux to what the law predicts. If a light ray bends the one next to it must bend a bit further, or interfere, until eventually you have a recursive light ray going back to where it came from! It seems that an inverse square law is the only one that allows all the light rays to peacefully coexist, at least in this universe.
    Gravity does not bend light. The varying density air over the desert often bends light, while being heated by sunlight.

    Around large bodies, the sun the earth, and even the moon. You will find heavy to very light atmospheres of varying density. This will create a lens effect that you can demonstrate to be real. No need for theories about bending light with gravity.

    There used to be rules of science showing that light could not bend, and it cannot just bend in a material, like gas or glass or even water. Unless there is an amazing amount of charge, or an extreme magnetic field is created, that alters the matter light is traveling through, and the matters density. If an object is unevenly heated this can cause a difference in density.
    If an object or gas, is clear it cannot be of different or varying thickness or it will bend light like any other lens.

    Gravity is just a pressure, an electrical force, that pressed the atmosphere to the earth, creating a kind of sedimentary layering of different density gases. That is why a balloon can only go so high. There is a gradient difference in the density of the earths atmosphere.

    Refraction in water takes place because you are looking through two different density materials, air and water. Or air, glass and water if the water is in a beaker.

    Put your diving mask on that is designed to avoid that and it goes away.


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    Gravity does not bend light.
    Yes it does, but so what? My response had nothing at all to do with gravity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunbury
    Gravity does not bend light.
    Yes it does, but so what? My response had nothing at all to do with gravity.
    How is gravity going to bend light?

    There was a rule in Universal Science that said that matter can effect ambient radiation. Ambient radiation can effect matter. However ambient radiation appears not to effect ambient radiation.

    The reason is the super high velocity of two ambient radiation electrons head on or even at a ninety degree angle or other angles in between. Do not spend enough time near each other to effect each other. There very, very small size also makes them very unlikely to have a problem with effecting one another at those velocities.

    As I mentioned in another post they are very small, and when they pass through matter, it is like a small ball a human could play with passing through a solar system.
    But actually passing through atoms and molecules. But with electrons there are a whole bunch of them passing through at all angels at once. But they do not appear to cause each other a problem. Due to the very high velocity of the particles.

    The rays of light are fast. They are not effected by gravity. They might be effected by the effects, gravity has on matter. But not by gravity.

    That is why you can cross rays of light and they still continue on, each in their respective path straight path.


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