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  1. #1 An idea on Dark Matter.... 
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    I was watching a TV show on the nature of the universe and it talked about the elusive dark matter. It is said that it can bend light, but the stuff causing light to bend cant be directly seen.

    Then it hit me...

    If DM isnt visible yet effects light, stars, galaxies in our universe, then DM must be very close to this dimension but not inside of it.

    It's like being on a trampoline and the heavy DM is on the top pressing down and we are part of the fabric thats effected by DM's distortions and we are left asking ourselves, "What the hell is causing these distortions when nothing is visibly there?"

    I hope I got the point across, if not back to the drawing board...

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    Interesting idea. If it is in another dimension that dimension has to be higher than ours. Which we can't prove and if i am not mistaken so far all dimension outside of the four we know about are believed to be smaller than an atom. I think one of the reasons that we can see dark matter is that it is invisible; meaning that it emmits no ways of seeing it. IE no visible light or heat or anything like that. I am not sure but that is my opinion. good idea and it may be possible


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    Well, if DM affects light, it should have been detected much before and not by any gamma ray bursts. In addition, can a dimension be affecting another dimension? and in what way?
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    im not sure if a dimension can affect another dimension, but someone from a higher dimension can affect our dimension. If a person from a higher dimension were to come to ours it would appear as though they had god like powers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PritishKamat
    Well, if DM affects light, it should have been detected much before and not by any gamma ray bursts. In addition, can a dimension be affecting another dimension? and in what way?
    DM warps space-time and light goes through the distortion and that's how light is effected. It's an indirect lensing type deal.

    When use the word 'dimension', I dont mean a higher or lower one. Just another 3d realm that's just 'next door'. Or perhaps something stuck (like soap scum) to the other side of our space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe(Oh)
    I was watching a TV show on the nature of the universe and it talked about the elusive dark matter. It is said that it can bend light, but the stuff causing light to bend cant be directly seen.

    Then it hit me...

    If DM isnt visible yet effects light, stars, galaxies in our universe, then DM must be very close to this dimension but not inside of it.

    It's like being on a trampoline and the heavy DM is on the top pressing down and we are part of the fabric thats effected by DM's distortions and we are left asking ourselves, "What the hell is causing these distortions when nothing is visibly there?"

    I hope I got the point across, if not back to the drawing board...

    Thoughts?

    I believe the effects they are talking about. Are actually, rays from a very dark body in space. A giant planet. Light gases of different density are capable of bending light slightly.

    So as you look at a very dark body that appears eerily black and liquid like. It is because light encroaches into the dark rays. Around the edges.

    These were thought to be black holes by poor scientists.

    Dark matter is just not giving off light.

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    Black holes have been proven, and dark matter is a real influence on how it warps light around it. The planet you speak of would have to be light-years across to effect the area that DM does.

    Have you ever heard of a planet that has a diameter several light years+ across that you cant directly see?

    DM must be an extra-dimensional phenomenon. Not higher dimensional like 4, 5, or 6d but in a 3d-plane just outside of our own. Perhaps a "subspace" like in Star Trek?
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    u never know we still know very little about dark matter. We have to keep and open mind about it.
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    Well, we look into the dark night sky, and we see darkness.

    You may not believe that these are rays hitting your retinas. You may have been taught that these are not dark rays.

    However these dark rays contain a black and white photograph of the surface they are leaving. Just like the dark rays of the x-ray machine carry with it a picture of the objects they pass through.

    In both situations there are dark rays present.

    A large unlit body, like a giant planet, would in fact block a half universe of light from the observer on the other side of the universe.
    The only rays possible coming from such an object would of course be dark rays. These dark rays respond to lenses just like light does. Certain photographic lenses can take the rays that appear totally dark to a human and turn them into legible images.

    Certainly there must be rays coming from the objects. Just like rays are coming from x-ray machines and from the objects they are x-raying in the total darkness.

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    A large planet not giving off light....I would like to see that. Or the effects of such an object. Dark matter reaches far across galaxies and surrounds them. Sure the effect is slight, but over such a far reaching area the effect is quite noticable.

    As far as using Star Trek as an anology, thats all it was, an analogy. It doesnt nessesarily mean that there is a thing as 'subspace' just something that may be similar to it. I'm glad to see we have such a resident expert on the universe and Star Trek phenomenon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe(Oh)
    A large planet not giving off light....I would like to see that. Or the effects of such an object. Dark matter reaches far across galaxies and surrounds them. Sure the effect is slight, but over such a far reaching area the effect is quite noticable.

    As far as using Star Trek as an anology, thats all it was, an analogy. It doesnt nessesarily mean that there is a thing as 'subspace' just something that may be similar to it. I'm glad to see we have such a resident expert on the universe and Star Trek phenomenon.

    What a cad...
    Have you ever worked with thousand watt black lights? I have.

    The rays are invisible while looking at the 1/2" thick dark glass lens. Yet when you aim those dark rays at white cotton, it can light an entire room up.

    Certainly we need to do some very basic light experiments before we attack one another.

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    'Dark rays' are just our way of trying to see UV light. I'd imaging they used UV imaging equipment already to try to "see" the dark matter....
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    Quote Originally Posted by credo
    im not sure if a dimension can affect another dimension, but someone from a higher dimension can affect our dimension. If a person from a higher dimension were to come to ours it would appear as though they had god like powers.
    C'mon man, this isn't Star Trek! Firstly, I don't think that you are referring to a dimension, a parallel universe, maybe. Secondly, You can't tell which dimension is "higher" or "lower" than any other dimension. Well, unless you mean that 'gods' live in some "higher" dimension and 'devils' in a "lower" one. (Coz that's just creepy man!) OK, one more point. Dimensions are not localised, like on the outer rim of our universe. They co-exist at every point of the universe. To say that dark matter resides in a certain dimension is just like saying that you are partly (90%) made of dark matter! Which is just totally absurd!
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    http://www.Rockwelder.com/WMV/Shadows/Shadows.html


    This pretty much sums it up. As to why a large planet would create quite the effect across the universe.

    I know it seems hard to believe at times. But you have to take everything these poor scientists are saying with a grain of salt. They do not posses basic scientific skills in my opinion.

    We pretty much understood the universe many years ago. We could have been traveling through it already for years.



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    That'd be one hell of a planet giving off that kind of shadow to effect what surrounds galaxies billions of light years away. I'm sorry but dark rays are pure crack-pottery.

    However, I like how in the video the person disguised their voice like this was some 'above top secret' discovery....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe(Oh)
    That'd be one hell of a planet giving off that kind of shadow to effect what surrounds galaxies billions of light years away. I'm sorry but dark rays are pure crack-pottery.

    However, I like how in the video the person disguised their voice like this was some 'above top secret' discovery....

    WM, you're too much-
    It is just the quality of the audio and the noise reduction I used in the video. Believe me I am not hard up for new discoveries. Because there won't be any real or new discoveries.

    Dark rays are totally perceivable as rays to certain equipment, elements and compounds. It is more then just a lack of light. Dark rays can travel farther then light rays.

    The rays from a shadow are positively accelerated so they do not give off light.

    As I mentioned you can take darkness, black rays to the human eye. And still get an image of what lies out in the darkness or blackness. The equipment slows the dark rays, so that they give off light.

    You can also do the same with a sighting scope. Something that appears to be a black spot to the human eye, when viewed through a very powerful scope can revel that it is not just a black spot. It may have white lettering or white designs on it.

    However not enough light to reach the human from a certain distance surrounded by the blackness.



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    Do you know what I mean about the large planet blocking half the solar system?

    There is an ever increasing area, and volume, behind the theoretical dark planet, that is blocked, by the dark planet, from the view of someone looking at the dark planet from earth.

    A hidden cone or actually a frustum shaped area expanding to the edges of the universe. All this light that was bound for earth is blocked by the dark planet. That is why it looks so large. The effect of blackness.

    So when you see this dark body, you are also not seeing perhaps thousands of solar systems with suns that were visible or would be visible if the dark planet was not there.

    But with a very powerful scope this dead black object can be viewed and the fact that it is just a planet proven.


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