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    GPE can be converted into kinetic energy, which can be converted into electrical energy, which can be converted into light energy, etc. So all energys are just different forms of the same thing since they can be converted into one another. Also because of E=MC^2 can I also say that mass itself is just a different form on the same energy? E=MC^2 means M=E/C^2, which means that you can make matter from energy, if can start with only energy and make matter, the basic components of that matter must be energy. So that means that everything in existance as we know it is just a different form of energy, and that energy is the basic component for everything in existance.


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    Yes, basically AFAIK. Photons then are the most basic form of energy.


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    You've stated the law of conservation of mass and energy.
    What is your question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond K
    GPE can be converted into kinetic energy, which can be converted into electrical energy, which can be converted into light energy, etc. So all energys are just different forms of the same thing since they can be converted into one another. Also because of E=MC^2 can I also say that mass itself is just a different form on the same energy? E=MC^2 means M=E/C^2, which means that you can make matter from energy, if can start with only energy and make matter, the basic components of that matter must be energy. So that means that everything in existance as we know it is just a different form of energy, and that energy is the basic component for everything in existance.

    Here is the only problem with all this. Most of these conversions are done with a standard set, of setup equipment. Making them repeatable however not always reliable. Or valid in other configurations. Some electricians would laughingly to tears agree with me.

    Matter is just protons that are just balls of electricity, electrons. There are no photons.

    It was taught that at the edges of the universe that masses of free electrons are reassembled into atoms of hydrogen and return into the universe. That is what replenishes the Universe with raw material.

    But we cannot form atoms here in the Universe to my knowledge.

    And there is no energy from the atoms themselves when you destroy them. However the free electrons released do block and slow ambient radiation, ambient radiation that can be slowed to bomb, gravity, x-ray, ultraviolet, light, heat or anything else.

    But this has little to do with the power of the atom to be honest. It is actually the ability of the structure abundant with free electrons to effect ambient radiation.

    In reality there is no such thing as energy. There is velocity, structures and time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by William McCormick
    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond K
    GPE can be converted into kinetic energy, which can be converted into electrical energy, which can be converted into light energy, etc. So all energys are just different forms of the same thing since they can be converted into one another. Also because of E=MC^2 can I also say that mass itself is just a different form on the same energy? E=MC^2 means M=E/C^2, which means that you can make matter from energy, if can start with only energy and make matter, the basic components of that matter must be energy. So that means that everything in existance as we know it is just a different form of energy, and that energy is the basic component for everything in existance.

    Here is the only problem with all this. Most of these conversions are done with a standard set, of setup equipment. Making them repeatable however not always reliable. Or valid in other configurations. Some electricians would laughingly to tears agree with me.

    Matter is just protons that are just balls of electricity, electrons. There are no photons.

    It was taught that at the edges of the universe that masses of free electrons are reassembled into atoms of hydrogen and return into the universe. That is what replenishes the Universe with raw material.

    But we cannot form atoms here in the Universe to my knowledge.

    And there is no energy from the atoms themselves when you destroy them. However the free electrons released do block and slow ambient radiation, ambient radiation that can be slowed to bomb, gravity, x-ray, ultraviolet, light, heat or anything else.

    But this has little to do with the power of the atom to be honest. It is actually the ability of the structure abundant with free electrons to effect ambient radiation.

    In reality there is no such thing as energy. There is velocity, structures and time.


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    Wait protons are balls of electrons? Which would mean protons are negativly charged? GET OUT NUB
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER
    Yes, basically AFAIK. Photons then are the most basic form of energy.
    Is this proven? I learned that photons are packets of LIGHT energy with volume but no mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond K
    Quote Originally Posted by William McCormick
    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond K
    GPE can be converted into kinetic energy, which can be converted into electrical energy, which can be converted into light energy, etc. So all energys are just different forms of the same thing since they can be converted into one another. Also because of E=MC^2 can I also say that mass itself is just a different form on the same energy? E=MC^2 means M=E/C^2, which means that you can make matter from energy, if can start with only energy and make matter, the basic components of that matter must be energy. So that means that everything in existance as we know it is just a different form of energy, and that energy is the basic component for everything in existance.

    Here is the only problem with all this. Most of these conversions are done with a standard set, of setup equipment. Making them repeatable however not always reliable. Or valid in other configurations. Some electricians would laughingly to tears agree with me.

    Matter is just protons that are just balls of electricity, electrons. There are no photons.

    It was taught that at the edges of the universe that masses of free electrons are reassembled into atoms of hydrogen and return into the universe. That is what replenishes the Universe with raw material.

    But we cannot form atoms here in the Universe to my knowledge.

    And there is no energy from the atoms themselves when you destroy them. However the free electrons released do block and slow ambient radiation, ambient radiation that can be slowed to bomb, gravity, x-ray, ultraviolet, light, heat or anything else.

    But this has little to do with the power of the atom to be honest. It is actually the ability of the structure abundant with free electrons to effect ambient radiation.

    In reality there is no such thing as energy. There is velocity, structures and time.


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    Wait protons are balls of electrons? Which would mean protons are negativly charged? GET OUT NUB
    Who was it that actually said electrons are negatively charged? The universal scientists might have had to much fun with this. Because there is only one subatomic particle the electron, and it can only repel everything else in the universe.

    Here in America we at one time believed as Benjamin Franklin did. And as far as I know Benjamin Franklin was right on. Unfortunately colleges created that crazy idea that electrons were somehow negative, when they could not figure out a cathode ray tube. And how it worked. Using ARC (Anode, Rectified, Cathode).

    It all went very south from there and next thing you know, they labeled the batteries backwards. All or most of our test equipment is wrong as well.

    Today I have to read my oscilloscope upside down to see an abundance of electricity. Positive electromotive force has to be read as a downward movement on the scope. There may be some new scopes that let you reverse the movement on the scope though. I just do not know if they allow it on all channels.

    Most individuals that could do something about it, do not understand it enough. Those that understand are not really welcome to voice the collapse of science in public. It is considered bad to put down poor science today.





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    Nothing can be proven :wink: , we only say proven when we are 99% sure. Although, we all know how sure that 99% is when you look back at things like being sure that we could not fly.

    I agree that photons are the base form of energy. Looking at the extensive number of experiments committed to light, we would have to rewrite our quantum mechanical framework if photons were composed of something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveF
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    How can the energy that makes up everything be photons? How can photons be the energy in motion? I thought photons were energy in the form of light, but only that form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond K
    How can the energy that makes up everything be photons? How can photons be the energy in motion? I thought photons were energy in the form of light, but only that form.
    I know you guys do not really want to know what took place in America.

    However it was all electrons, under pressure. You have your high velocity invisible undetectable ambient radiation electrons. And you have your slower detectable ambient radiation electrons.

    Matter was balls of electrons contained in spheres, held in spheres by ambient radiation. You could do anything go anywhere.

    Science is just experiencing a political stop. A reversal to allow for political goals to be achieved.


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    Quote Originally Posted by William McCormick
    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond K
    How can the energy that makes up everything be photons? How can photons be the energy in motion? I thought photons were energy in the form of light, but only that form.
    I know you guys do not really want to know what took place in America.

    However it was all electrons, under pressure. You have your high velocity invisible undetectable ambient radiation electrons. And you have your slower detectable ambient radiation electrons.

    Matter was balls of electrons contained in spheres, held in spheres by ambient radiation. You could do anything go anywhere.

    Science is just experiencing a political stop. A reversal to allow for political goals to be achieved.


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    What the hell is wrong with you?

    Can someone explain how photons can be the direct source of energy for motion?
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    How can the energy that makes up everything be photons?
    I'm not sure you can say matter is photons. All matter and forces simply are different forms of energy, with photons being the most basic form.
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    In this forum there is a level, horizontal, it would seem, that we generally exist below.

    Those above that "bar" are proposing great things, a bar nonetheless that we use as a reference for our ability to surface to their, those above it, that bar, their level they stand on.

    The only problem is the majority of these people on that bar are dead, or trying to stand on the work, their work, even as buried as they are.

    Physics is not an arena of personal glory.

    No one can say they are the epitome of a body in motion with other bodies in motion, unless they want to call themselves a God.

    ...................because that is what God is, would be, the epitome of a body in motion, with other bodies in motion that agree with it.

    Does ANYONE believe they have the ability to rise above that bar in this forum?
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    Oh no. Another one. Mods, is there really nothing we can do about this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond K
    Quote Originally Posted by William McCormick
    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond K
    How can the energy that makes up everything be photons? How can photons be the energy in motion? I thought photons were energy in the form of light, but only that form.
    I know you guys do not really want to know what took place in America.

    However it was all electrons, under pressure. You have your high velocity invisible undetectable ambient radiation electrons. And you have your slower detectable ambient radiation electrons.

    Matter was balls of electrons contained in spheres, held in spheres by ambient radiation. You could do anything go anywhere.

    Science is just experiencing a political stop. A reversal to allow for political goals to be achieved.


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    What the hell is wrong with you?

    Can someone explain how photons can be the direct source of energy for motion?
    The whole photon particle thing is a new thing dreamed up to confuse. Originally a photon was not a particle. It was an effect of light. Then someone with a total misunderstanding said "A photon particle" and he got grant monies and the photon became real. If only in poor scientists minds.

    There were no photon particles fifty years ago in real science. And we did not need them. Electrons and matter are massless weightless objects. They are only moved by repulsion. Never any physical contact.

    Just so you know even in the early seventies the photon particle did not exist in New York State curriculum. There was not even a hint of them. It was still all electrons, and protons made of electrons, and the phony neutron. The neutron particle became a particle taught in New York schools in 1973. Before that it was not a real particle in reality or in education.

    They just started creating particles that were not needed to totally understand and complete your scientific Universal Science training.

    They reversed electricity in the curriculum, and the way we had learned it. By mislabeling it.

    A lot of people say "Bill what is the difference, if we measure electricity backwards it is just a convention. So what if we measure electrical pressure that is just like any other pressure, but do it in reverse?

    My thought is why don't we call the Marines wussies? It would just be a convention. Of course I wouldn't want to go to Paris Island and inform them that it was my convention.

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