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  1. #1 No more Black Holes? 
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    http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi...ull/2007/621/1

    If new calculations are correct, the universe just got even stranger. Scientists at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, have constructed mathematical formulas that conclude black holes cannot exist. The findings--if correct--could revolutionize astrophysics and resolve a paradox that has perplexed physicists for 4 decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivideByZero
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    http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi...ull/2007/621/1

    If new calculations are correct, the universe just got even stranger. Scientists at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, have constructed mathematical formulas that conclude black holes cannot exist. The findings--if correct--could revolutionize astrophysics and resolve a paradox that has perplexed physicists for 4 decades.

    whaaaat?
    It is still nonsense. True there have never been black holes.

    However look at how they try to show they don't exist. They talk about relativity, Einstein, space ships.

    But nothing that you can prove. And it was already proven a long time ago. They were large planets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by William McCormick
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    http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi...ull/2007/621/1

    If new calculations are correct, the universe just got even stranger. Scientists at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, have constructed mathematical formulas that conclude black holes cannot exist. The findings--if correct--could revolutionize astrophysics and resolve a paradox that has perplexed physicists for 4 decades.

    whaaaat?
    It is still nonsense. True there have never been black holes.

    However look at how they try to show they don't exist. They talk about relativity, Einstein, space ships.

    But nothing that you can prove. And it was already proven a long time ago. They were large planets.


    Sincerely,


    William McCormick
    and relativity is a complete joke right? I mean who cares if there are real world examples where relativity has been shown to exist.
    "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt" - Bertrand Russell
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    If black holes radiate away their mass over time, as Hawking showed, then they should evaporate before they even form, Krauss says.
    From what I can tell, this guy is an idiot. He is completely misunderstanding the events that he described. Likely some desperate scientist looking for some publicity by making such claims. :?
    Of all the wonders in the universe, none is likely more fascinating and complicated than human nature.

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Fusion
    If black holes radiate away their mass over time, as Hawking showed, then they should evaporate before they even form, Krauss says.
    From what I can tell, this guy is an idiot. He is completely misunderstanding the events that he described. Likely some desperate scientist looking for some publicity by making such claims. :?
    You've taken that quote out of context, it makes much more sense within the article.
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    He took the idea of an object never appearing to go into the black hole and decided that is equivalent to timelessness. Although he even stated that it is only what an outside observer would see, not in truth what would happen. All this would equal to is a very peculiar looking area near the even horizon, if anything besides blinding light could be distinguishable there.

    Besides that I have seen some very strong evidence for the existence of black holes. Until at least 50 other respectable physicists agree with him entirely, I would not think much of his statements.
    Of all the wonders in the universe, none is likely more fascinating and complicated than human nature.

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

    "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BumFluff
    Quote Originally Posted by William McCormick
    Quote Originally Posted by DivideByZero
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    http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi...ull/2007/621/1

    If new calculations are correct, the universe just got even stranger. Scientists at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, have constructed mathematical formulas that conclude black holes cannot exist. The findings--if correct--could revolutionize astrophysics and resolve a paradox that has perplexed physicists for 4 decades.

    whaaaat?
    It is still nonsense. True there have never been black holes.

    However look at how they try to show they don't exist. They talk about relativity, Einstein, space ships.

    But nothing that you can prove. And it was already proven a long time ago. They were large planets.


    Sincerely,


    William McCormick
    and relativity is a complete joke right? I mean who cares if there are real world examples where relativity has been shown to exist.
    Yes relativity according to Einstein is a joke. Relativity according to German and American scientists is something totally different, and truly scientifically demonstrated.

    When the Einstein's go to show something other then the all electron universe in action. You end up with four thousand people on payroll, thirty billion in wasted grant monies. And nothing conclusive comes from it. Yet it is heralded as the greatest thing since a money tree. I don't get it.

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    William McCormick
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