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    I was watching a Discovery channel program about the near miss on Friday, April 13, 2029 of a potentially hazardous asteroid.

    They were interviewing people what they would do if they knew exactly when the planet would be destroyed. I was surprised and confused at some of the women's responses. A large majority said they would like to experience childbirth.

    Maybe its just because I'm a man, but doesn't that sound a bit selfish? Its like, "Oh! the world is about to be destroyed, I have to have a baby!"

    Maybe it is hardwired into women by evolution as a way to try to attempt to keep the species alive, I dunno.

    What would you do if you knew the day human life on the planet may end? What do you think about the responses of these women?


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    Well... I say that those women are self centered ****** and pretty moronic. You asked for my opinion so don't go all hostile against me

    As for what I'd do... Well... I dun really know what I would exactly do as I'm not that of a science master meself. But what I would like to see people doing is do whatever they can to build an anti-astroid missle to destroy it.

    But who knows where I'd be in... so and so years?? I might be the cheif of missile building in the world. Or maybe the president of the U.S.A... Who knows...

    Besides... what's the point going down without a fight??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    what's the point going down without a fight??
    Right on. And what can one woman do to show her defiance?
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    I would find the spot that the asteroid will hit, and sit there until the asteroid arrives. Upon its arrival, I would flail myself into the air and punch the asteroid just as it hits me.

    That way, I could declare at that moment that I have suffered the most epic death of all time.
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    only problem is the heat generated by the asteroid's entrance into the atmosphere would turn you into ashes at almost the same time you would be able to see the asteroid.
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    Ain't Bush has some extra nukes in his pocket for like... personal use??
    I mean.. Instead of launching them at those poor arabis why dont spare some and like... save the world?
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    because, regardless of the movies, blowing up an asteroid turns it into a bunch of smaller asteroids still going about 10 - 40KM/s, about 10-40 times as fast as a bullet from a gun...and those chunks are still gonna be pretty big. Not even a well-placed or buried nuke could change the velocity of such a fast moving object.

    The only method that may work is to put a heavy object into space to fly near enough to the asteroid for the heavy object's gravity to affect the trajectory enough for the asteroid to miss us.
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    Well... Cant we like colculate the spreading route of those mini astroids to pass our planet? or just divert the astroid by a push-missile? :/
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    a push-missile? i don't think an explosion would be enough to change its trajectory, and it would take alot of fuel to strap a rocket to the asteroid and move it out of the way...I'm talking about very large asteroids here.

    Again, the only method for a large object like that is to warp space-time around the object by placing an object with enough mass close enough to change the asteroids trajectory,
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    Well... Firsly, where are you going to find such an object in a such tight scedual in the first place? and 2ndly; won't the mass of this object be evvecting our world aswell and ultimately this huge object could crush in the world himself... :/

    As for the fuel ammount needed... I assume that the world will pitch up every drop of fuel that they got to save all their asses :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    Well... won't the mass of this object be affecting our world as well and ultimately this huge object could crush in the world itself... :/
    Thats where math comes in and better be pretty darn accurate!
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    Yah, you might be right...
    But I go back again to my previous question; where will you find such a huge object?? It's not like you can conjure an object so big in a very specific place...

    Besides, Think how it will effect our orbit and the planets near Earth..
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    Not THAT huge!!!

    It only needs to be as big as say, Rhode Island at the most!

    Plus, you would probably build it on the moon and launch it from there as well.
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    Dont you think that it would be much more simpler to just build a push missle which will attach to it and divert it to everwhere that ya want?
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    What would you do if you knew the day human life on the planet may end? What do you think about the responses of these women?
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    I'd kick back, and go and play bowling or something with my family and friends.
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    Regardless of what they say, I still believe launching 15,000 nukes would annihilate the asteroid.
    Of all the wonders in the universe, none is likely more fascinating and complicated than human nature.

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    Well, suppose this asteroid is unstoppable. It's very massive, and traveling at some absurd speed. So even if we crack it to shards, too many shards will buckshot Earth anyway, and wipe us out just differently than the single asteroid.

    I have an idea: aikido.

    Draw the asteroid in. Faster even. Use explosions not to try and push it aside or blow it smithereens, rather to guide and shape the projectile and drive it through the Earth. If the asteroid's inertia carries through the molten part of our planet, and continues out into space, like bullet through jelly, Earth absorbs a fraction of the asteroid's energy.

    I think that we could use nukes at about 100 km altitude (just into space) around the asteroid to squeeze it into a narrow form and drive it through. We might also time nonradioactive atmospheric explosions (air-fuel explosions) to contain the asteroid's own tendency to explode in air. As for the hard crust, we can already mine half way through ocean crust, and then nuking further "pilot holes" into this relatively thin shell some seconds or minutes before the asteroid arrives should not be beyond our capabilities. All those suborbital ballistic nukes are within specs too. So this is not depending on some future technology, like nukes intercepting something distant from Earth.

    Ideally the asteroid would be traveling fast enough to leave two clean holes... and then yeah amazing volcanoes at the punctures but maybe not so bad as if the full weight had slapped down.
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    Why can't you accept death?

    By my belief it's not dying, but maybe not for you, is that the truth?
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    Okay, so why won't I just go to your place now and stab you to death?
    How that sounds to ya??
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    If you want to, you might get arrested and would live in exile probably for the rest of your life. but I'll come back, probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong
    Right on. And what can one woman do to show her defiance?
    Have a one night stand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
    Dont you think that it would be much more simpler to just build a push missle which will attach to it and divert it to everwhere that ya want?
    The biggest problem with this idea is time. IF we detect the rock years in advance, we MAY have time to design, build, program, launch and hope such a rocket works. If we detect the near earth object a few months from earth..well....roll into a ball and kiss your........
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    We can accept death chaotic, however we don't just lie down and let shit drop on our heads, we look for an umbrella. If you accept death why do you not simply lie down and stop eating? The answer is because it is in your instinct to survive, I know you believe in god but god would not want us to simply give up in the face of adversity. However frail he made us he made us in his image and god is not weak.

    For the record I'm agnostic.
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    Chaotic's thinking about Armageddon I presume. Thus the "I'll come back". Earth must be destroyed to be reborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperNatendo
    I was watching a Discovery channel program about the near miss on Friday, April 13, 2029 of a potentially hazardous asteroid.

    They were interviewing people what they would do if they knew exactly when the planet would be destroyed. I was surprised and confused at some of the women's responses. A large majority said they would like to experience childbirth.

    Maybe its just because I'm a man, but doesn't that sound a bit selfish? Its like, "Oh! the world is about to be destroyed, I have to have a baby!"

    Maybe it is hardwired into women by evolution as a way to try to attempt to keep the species alive, I dunno.

    What would you do if you knew the day human life on the planet may end? What do you think about the responses of these women?

    Surprise?

    When faced with death, some people want to create.

    Why is that surprising?
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    Yes i would have as many babies as possible.

    So there is a good balance of life and death

    Isn't that what this game is all about?

    In each moment of life and each breath we take we are living and dying

    That to me is the holy dichotomy of life

    If we were being realistic we should start calling life - life/death
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenacity
    We can accept death chaotic, however we don't just lie down and let shit drop on our heads, we look for an umbrella. If you accept death why do you not simply lie down and stop eating? The answer is because it is in your instinct to survive, I know you believe in god but god would not want us to simply give up in the face of adversity. However frail he made us he made us in his image and god is not weak.

    For the record I'm agnostic.
    I wouldn't lie down right now and starve to death, don't be obscure. However if there were a gigantic meteor heading to land on my house, I could'nt really do anything about it now could I? Thats what I meant. It's my instinct to survive, but not stop mutli million tonne astral bodies, no pun intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selene
    Yes i would have as many babies as possible.

    So there is a good balance of life and death

    Isn't that what this game is all about?

    In each moment of life and each breath we take we are living and dying

    That to me is the holy dichotomy of life

    If we were being realistic we should start calling life - life/death


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    Quote Originally Posted by theQuestIsNotOver
    Quote Originally Posted by Selene
    Yes i would have as many babies as possible.

    So there is a good balance of life and death

    Isn't that what this game is all about?

    In each moment of life and each breath we take we are living and dying

    That to me is the holy dichotomy of life

    If we were being realistic we should start calling life - life/death


    Its time for a "tune-up", right?

    Or...."how's it going"......(send me a PM).
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    Why?

    No thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong
    Draw the asteroid in. Faster even. Use explosions not to try and push it aside or blow it smithereens, rather to guide and shape the projectile and drive it through the Earth. If the asteroid's inertia carries through the molten part of our planet, and continues out into space, like bullet through jelly, Earth absorbs a fraction of the asteroid's energy.

    I think that we could use nukes at about 100 km altitude (just into space) around the asteroid to squeeze it into a narrow form and drive it through. We might also time nonradioactive atmospheric explosions (air-fuel explosions) to contain the asteroid's own tendency to explode in air. As for the hard crust, we can already mine half way through ocean crust, and then nuking further "pilot holes" into this relatively thin shell some seconds or minutes before the asteroid arrives should not be beyond our capabilities. All those suborbital ballistic nukes are within specs too. So this is not depending on some future technology, like nukes intercepting something distant from Earth.

    Ideally the asteroid would be traveling fast enough to leave two clean holes... and then yeah amazing volcanoes at the punctures but maybe not so bad as if the full weight had slapped down.
    Wouldn't that have some interesting side-effects:


    • Damage the internal convection of the earth
    • Reshape the magnetic field of the earth
    • Frickin' big volcano
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence
    Quote Originally Posted by Pong
    guide and shape the projectile and drive it through the Earth.
    Wouldn't that have some interesting side-effects:
    • Damage the internal convection of the earth?

    Yes.

    • Reshape the magnetic field of the earth?

    Probably.

    • Frickin' big volcano?

    Two volcanoes.



    Is the scenario preferable to absorbing full blunt force of impact?
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    Is the scenario preferable to absorbing full blunt force of impact?
    Both would certainly kill us all, so do you want to die in molten rock, or do you want to burn in a pyroclastic cloud?
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    Wouldn't that shaped projectile also like tilt our earth on its axis, spoiling our big winter, summer, spring and fall parties that we currently have?
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    I would tell every one what i really thought ... that should really bring on the end of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanuka
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    Wouldn't that shaped projectile also like tilt our earth on its axis, spoiling our big winter, summer, spring and fall parties that we currently have?
    Imagine the Earth as a chocolate dipped soft ice cream cone. Truly, the chocolate crust is too generous but it serves illustration. Now what happens if some spiteful brat hucks a jellybean at it? Kablooie. But what happens if you swiftly lance it with a toothpick? How about if you contrive some rubber bands to fire the toothpick clear through? Not much damage.

    The shaped projectile does not give up much inertia to the planet.

    This operation we could actually do, at 11:59, within capability of our ballistic missiles. So it's a real option, unlike intercepting an asteroid in distant space.
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    the problem is, earth would survive a meteor impact just fine.
    humanity wouldn't.
    earths been hit before, and a meteorite with our name on it is gonna come along sooner or later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong
    Imagine the Earth as a chocolate dipped soft ice cream cone. Truly, the chocolate crust is too generous but it serves illustration. Now what happens if some spiteful brat hucks a jellybean at it? Kablooie. But what happens if you swiftly lance it with a toothpick? How about if you contrive some rubber bands to fire the toothpick clear through? Not much damage.

    The shaped projectile does not give up much inertia to the planet.

    This operation we could actually do, at 11:59, within capability of our ballistic missiles. So it's a real option, unlike intercepting an asteroid in distant space.
    The problem with this analogy is that in the centre you would have a large uncracked nut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER
    The problem with this analogy is that in the centre you would have a large uncracked nut.
    I thought of that. Some approaches would be bull's eyes - bad news.

    I think that our (nuclear) capacity to vector the asteroid is greatest when it's very near Earth. So we can't prevent it from hitting, but we can influence just how the meteor impacts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperNatendo
    I was watching a Discovery channel program about the near miss on Friday, April 13, 2029 of a potentially hazardous asteroid.

    They were interviewing people what they would do if they knew exactly when the planet would be destroyed. I was surprised and confused at some of the women's responses. A large majority said they would like to experience childbirth.

    Maybe its just because I'm a man, but doesn't that sound a bit selfish? Its like, "Oh! the world is about to be destroyed, I have to have a baby!"

    Maybe it is hardwired into women by evolution as a way to try to attempt to keep the species alive, I dunno.

    What would you do if you knew the day human life on the planet may end? What do you think about the responses of these women?
    I think that is really stupid comment "i wolud have baby!" Are the normal? Poor Child will just be in panic and die! Thats really selfish! And what i think that people should do! To enjoy! And i think that big responsibility about this thing should have scientist! They should think how to save world from hazardous asteroid. How to make something to destroy it, or make some sort of shield But making shield is maybe stupid idea, because you will nead a shield a little more bigger than planet earth. But scientists should find some way to save the planet! Thats a big thing! But its enough time i think!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selene
    Yes i would have as many babies as possible.

    So there is a good balance of life and death

    Isn't that what this game is all about?

    In each moment of life and each breath we take we are living and dying

    That to me is the holy dichotomy of life

    If we were being realistic we should start calling life - life/death
    Yes the balance is there but in which way will that baby die! She would be killed and that isn't a good thing! My uncle died when he had 20 years and he could do many things but he died! After all, if we must be killed in a horrible way, baby don't have to feel that shit of dieing thing! There's theory that dionsaur died in same way! Maybe after us the same thing will happen! Maybe will new species come on earth and new evolution will come! Maybe will need a millions and millions years to life come on earth again! But if nobody dont do anything, we will not see that! But maybe its nature who want to we die, because maybe thats only way to new specie come on earth! But i don't want to die in 2029, on 13 April! I want to live! And because of that I think its worth enough to i become scientist! I wanna do some more things like creating claws for me like wolverine have, and become wolverine! I know that thats a strange idea, but i am in love with things like make a super hero who will help this poor world! Everybody think that my idea is stupid, but i think that i can do it, and i think that is most important to believe in what you do! May God help us all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence
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    Draw the asteroid in. Faster even. Use explosions not to try and push it aside or blow it smithereens, rather to guide and shape the projectile and drive it through the Earth. If the asteroid's inertia carries through the molten part of our planet, and continues out into space, like bullet through jelly, Earth absorbs a fraction of the asteroid's energy.

    I think that we could use nukes at about 100 km altitude (just into space) around the asteroid to squeeze it into a narrow form and drive it through. We might also time nonradioactive atmospheric explosions (air-fuel explosions) to contain the asteroid's own tendency to explode in air. As for the hard crust, we can already mine half way through ocean crust, and then nuking further "pilot holes" into this relatively thin shell some seconds or minutes before the asteroid arrives should not be beyond our capabilities. All those suborbital ballistic nukes are within specs too. So this is not depending on some future technology, like nukes intercepting something distant from Earth.

    Ideally the asteroid would be traveling fast enough to leave two clean holes... and then yeah amazing volcanoes at the punctures but maybe not so bad as if the full weight had slapped down.
    Wouldn't that have some interesting side-effects:


    • Damage the internal convection of the earth
    • Reshape the magnetic field of the earth
    • Frickin' big volcano
    Yes it will have consequences, but maybe they will be smaller than asteroid. Or what if asteroid be destroyed somewhere when he is in space with atomic bombs and many nuclear or with some new thing! If somehow people can control magnetic force field and use metal shield in the space and move asteroid on other planet, or if asteroid have anything which is sort of metal in it, to change asteroids direction! I think on some thing like power from Magneto! If Asteroid move its direction to other planet, it will not be bigger damage than he will have if he fall on earth! The best planet, for destroying is Pluto! Its not even planet, sorry for my mistake! But its impossible to control magnetic field! If there is any way to control it, that would be great! Or what about to go to other planet! Or better other galaxy! But they must first build ship which will have enough food for this journey! But that would be like when Europeans found new continent, when they realized that they are not only part of the world! That would be journey to unknown!
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    So! You think the only thing keeping us from exploring the galaxy is enough food! I like screaming! Let's go to Pluto! PLUTO!
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    I think in reality a vast amount of people would be in denial and carry on as normal.
    'Time is the space between birth and death' by me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    I think in reality a vast amount of people would be in denial and carry on as normal.
    That could be called resignation too. What else are you going to do?
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    Drink gallons of Baileys

    And listen to The Red Hot Chilli Peppers very loudly
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    Drink gallons of Baileys

    And listen to The Red Hot Chilli Peppers very loudly
    Some people enjoy life as they have it. I think I might tidy the house a bit, invite my old friend Ernie to check out my new aquarium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong
    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    I think in reality a vast amount of people would be in denial and carry on as normal.
    That could be called resignation too. What else are you going to do?
    Pray
    'Time is the space between birth and death' by me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong
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    Drink gallons of Baileys

    And listen to The Red Hot Chilli Peppers very loudly
    Some people enjoy life as they have it. I think I might tidy the house a bit, invite my old friend Ernie to check out my new aquarium.
    You're a pipe and slippers man aren't you?
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    You know i think the most important thing that matters when you die is where your head is at, or the type of consciousness you're experiencing.

    That's what the Buddhists preach

    Get into the right head space and you won't have to come back as a pig or another moron cluttering up the earth.

    I'd love to be able to be a ghost, I would relish scaring the shit out of people and waking them up from their anesthesia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER
    So! You think the only thing keeping us from exploring the galaxy is enough food! I like screaming! Let's go to Pluto! PLUTO!
    Are you talking to me? Its not only problem but its still a problem! I didn't think bout our galaxy at first, i thought about exploring other galaxies! We need a new space ship! We need many things! And what shall we do in very last moment! Enjoy! And KALSTER, Man FUCK YOU!!!
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