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  1. #1 Should we measure intelligence? 
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    Seems to me that we are determining the intelligence of people at an increasingly young age. perhaps in the not too distance future will be screening babies brains to see how intelligent they are.

    So my question is this. if we can determine the intelligence of a baby is it morally right. If the parents discover the baby to be stupid or below average. will they not bother wasting resources on educating this baby?


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    Should we measure intelligence? What if we do and we get it wrong?


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    "what if we do and get it wrong"

    A very good point.

    but if we assume that in the future the test is 100% accurate.
    Say if the baby is slightly below average so the parents don't want to waste money or time in educating someone stupid.
    Pretty much ruins the childs life before it has a chance.
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    That assumes that intelligence is purely genetic and environment can never have any effect.
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    Intelligence is slightly based on genetic.

    You're missing the point that if the brain was screened early the parents may not bother trying to improve the childs intelligence. so the environment perhaps would have a detrimental effect.
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    If that was to happen then yes it would be fairly immoral, however it is unlikely we wud ever reach that stage.
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    Or they'd be aware of the child's needs and educate him-her accordingly. Knowing that his visual-spatial abilities, for example, are lacking, they could work to improve it. As today, we have some parents who don't bother with their kids and others who do.
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    "If that was to happen then yes it would be fairly immoral, however it is unlikely we wud ever reach that stage."

    i don't see how this is unlikely.
    Look at the past 10 or 20 years and the fantastic advancements in technology.

    I think it is easily within reach technology that could scan the brain for basic indications of a childs intelligence. and with more advancements in technology this could be refined until parents can be given a number on a piece of paper showing how intelligent their child is
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    What is 'intelligence' in the first place?

    Is intelligence being able to retain information in the brain to pass an exam or is it thinking spontaneously and fast on your feet?
    Is intelligence being clever enough to stab someone in the back before they stab you or knowing and understanding the reasons not to think about even doing that in the first place?
    Is intelligence being able to calculate complicated maths problems or being able to gauge what the best thing is to do in any given situation?

    We talk of intelligence as one thing, but are there not branches of intelligence that are multitude and as complex as all of life itself.

    A genius may be able to compute complicated numbers but in a social or emotional situation might not have a clue!

    What is intelligence?
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    IQ I assume

    I think it is rational in medical circumstances but I assume thats excluded here?
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    I think it's fine so long as they don't lump all of the kinds of intelligence into a single category and assign a number. The way it's set up right now, an autistic savant could wail all over most of us...... but ...... well.......

    It just has to be clear that only one or a few aspects of the person's overall intellectual ability is being considered. There's nothing wrong with telling someone where to specialize on the basis of where their talents are (so long as that is what you're actually focused on finding, rather than just their deficiencies)

    I've met a fair number of engineers, programmers, and analysts who really aren't intellectually cut out for their careers. It's sad to see someone put that much work into something that they're never going to be able to do very well at.
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