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    New metaphors can create new realities

    Lakoff and Johnson, coauthors of “Metaphors we Live By”, speak of a newly arrived Iranian student who had mistaken the constant refrain he heard from other students that “the solution of my problems” meant that they were talking about a metaphor that was unfamiliar to him but sounded very intriguing. This Iranian student was very disappointed when he discovered that these other students were speaking in frustration rather than of a new and wonderful metaphor.

    He had mistaken this ‘solution of my problems’ was some kind of chemical mixing bowl, “which he took to be a large volume of liquid, bubbling and smoking, containing all of their problems, either dissolved or in the form of precipitates, with catalysts constantly dissolving some problems (for the time being) and precipitating out others.”

    The authors see this as an accidently developed but marvelous new metaphoric means for viewing problems and their solutions. The normal metaphor for problem solving is usually the puzzle metaphor, ‘problem is puzzle’.

    This new problem metaphor, ‘problems in solution’, offers a deliciously new and useful slant on the nature of problems and the nature of solving problems in life.

    ‘Problems in solution’ metaphor would entail:
    • Problems never completely disappear
    • Solving one problem may precipitate another
    • Since we have little control of what goes into he pot we constantly find new ones and old ones under another guise
    • A catalyst for solving one problem my promote another
    • A temporary problem solution may be the most we can hope for
    • Problems are part of the natural order of things

    The ‘problem is puzzle’ metaphor leads us to believe that there is an ultimate right solution whereas the ‘problems in solution’ does not.

    All this does not mean that it is easy to change metaphors that we live by but it does point up the importance of metaphor and how metaphors affect our world view and our daily mundane existence.

    Can you think of a new but marvelous metaphor?

    Can metaphors help save us from our self?

    Is ‘war and terrorism’ a useful metaphor? For whom is it useful?


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    Quote Originally Posted by coberst
    Can you think of a new but marvelous metaphor?
    Life is like a cabbage. It requires a proper environment to grow to its full potential. There are many layers. Not everyone enjoys it.

    It may be argued that the metaphor is not marvelous, but cabbages certainly are.


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    A metaphor is like a simile. Sort of.
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    Global capitalism is empire.

    Courtesy of George Soros and his book “Open Society” I shall introduce my new metaphor; ‘global capitalism is empire’.

    Global capitalism is more extensive than any other empire--the sun never sets on global capitalism--it rules entire civilizations--it is almost invisible and posses no formal structure--it governs those who belong to it and those who do not belong to it are toast--it has a center and a periphery--it is constantly seeking new conquests--the empire generates deep disquiet at the periphery--it is non territorial seeking to always be ‘off-shore’--it turns land, labor, and capital into commodities--it penetrates non economic areas of civilization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coberst
    Global capitalism is empire.

    Courtesy of George Soros and his book “Open Society” I shall introduce my new metaphor; ‘global capitalism is empire’.
    I have to say coberst you have really pissed me off now. It is clear, with the foregoing post, that you had absolutely no interest in any metaphors that any other forum members might offer up. Your opening post was merely to set the scene for introducing your own metaphor.

    In the past other posters have complained that you do not answer their questions, or respond to their points. I have seen you offer a 'reply' that seemed disconnected from the post it apprently was responding to. Then, in checking out your same thread on other forums, there is the very same response.

    You are not interacting with this community. You are not interested in engaging with the other members. You do not wish to participate in discussion. You wish only to spout your own narrow view ad nauseam. You are indulging in narcissistic, egocentric, mental masturbation. Like normal masturbation this is not an edifying spectator sport.

    I suggest you give some serious thought as to what you are trying to achieve here. Your essays are well written, but this is not an essay forum, this is a discussion forum. I think you should give that a lot more weight.
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    life is like a penis, full of ups and downs and when it's up you don't ever want it to go down, but sometimes when it's down, you just can't get it up and then you feel more down, which makes getting up even harder and it becomes a vicious cycle.


    Meanwhile, Ophiolite made a good point Coburst! How do you plead?
    'Time is the space between birth and death' by me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    life is like a penis, full of ups and downs and when it's up you don't ever want it to go down, but sometimes when it's down, you just can't get it up and then you feel more down, which makes getting up even harder and it becomes a vicious cycle.
    Goes up when it wants goes down when it wants, theres no control over it, just like life (sort of)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    life is like a penis, full of ups and downs and when it's up you don't ever want it to go down, but sometimes when it's down, you just can't get it up and then you feel more down, which makes getting up even harder and it becomes a vicious cycle.


    Meanwhile, Ophiolite made a good point Coburst! How do you plead?
    Frankly I just happened to be reading Soros after I had posted this thread and boom his discussion was basically this metaphor. The point of all this is that we can discuss people, things, or ideas. So many people cannot focus their attenion on ideas long enough to get their brains around them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    life is like a penis, full of ups and downs and when it's up you don't ever want it to go down, but sometimes when it's down, you just can't get it up and then you feel more down, which makes getting up even harder and it becomes a vicious cycle.
    Any idea on what the viagra of life is ?
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    Winning the lottery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat1981(England)
    Quote Originally Posted by Theoryofrelativity
    life is like a penis, full of ups and downs and when it's up you don't ever want it to go down, but sometimes when it's down, you just can't get it up and then you feel more down, which makes getting up even harder and it becomes a vicious cycle.
    Any idea on what the viagra of life is ?
    Thank you for making me conscious of a new metaphor.

    Self-learning is the viagra of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coberst
    Can you think of a new but marvelous metaphor?
    Life is like a cabbage. It requires a proper environment to grow to its full potential. There are many layers. Not everyone enjoys it.

    It may be argued that the metaphor is not marvelous, but cabbages certainly are.
    But I hate cabbage. :?
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    Life is like a box of chocolates: you never know what your gonna get. Unless you put on your glasses and read what is written on the box.
    Disclaimer: I do not declare myself to be an expert on ANY subject. If I state something as fact that is obviously wrong, please don't hesitate to correct me. I welcome such corrections in an attempt to be as truthful and accurate as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER
    Life is like a box of chocolates: you never know what your gonna get. Unless you put on your glasses and read what is written on the box.
    thank you forrest gump

    meanwhile the viagra of life would be caffeine - that keeps you 'up' all night too.
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    thank you forrest gump
    Of course it's Forrest Gump. I just added something extra 8)
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    I wonder why TOR makes so many sexual metaphors. Pervert.
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    Since she can't see what you put, I agree .
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    I gotta go off topic here for 1 second. Jeremy, the "But I hate cabbage." post made me laugh my ass off. I was thinking the same thing :P
    I'm always confused.
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