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    I'm curious, what out of everything in the world would make you truly happy? It can be anything you like but please tell us what it would feel like, be like, and why you'd finally be utterly happy with life.


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    Does it have to be this life, or can it be (dare I say it?) the afterlife?


    Whence comes this logic: no evidence = false?

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    No friend it must be something you can attain physically in this world :L not made-up stuff.
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    i'd like all thiests to become athiests so we can deal with the other issues in the world with a rational train of thought, without it being clouded by peoples dreamy views

    by the way thats an honest answer and not trolling
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    Quote Originally Posted by sderenzi
    No friend it must be something you can attain physically in this world :L not made-up stuff.
    Well, in that case, I don't wish to post my deepest desire on an open forum (especially a science forum).
    Whence comes this logic: no evidence = false?

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    i wanna be superman. or at least invincible. then i can be a benevalant dictator of the world.

    next to that maybe eternal youth, or $20 billion, no, $20 trillion should do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaincaveman
    i'd like all thiests to become athiests so we can deal with the other issues in the world with a rational train of thought, without it being clouded by peoples dreamy views

    by the way thats an honest answer and not trolling
    You seem to think theism interferres with rational thinking. It does not.

    Oh, and btw, when I think of physical happenings, I don't factor in my beliefs.
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    how ... uhm, how shall i say - interesting ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sohy
    i wanna be superman. or at least invincible. then i can be a benevalant dictator of the world.
    I don't think you can 'attain [that] physically in the real world', unless maybe you're Chuck Norris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scientstphilosophertheist
    Quote Originally Posted by captaincaveman
    i'd like all thiests to become athiests so we can deal with the other issues in the world with a rational train of thought, without it being clouded by peoples dreamy views

    by the way thats an honest answer and not trolling
    You seem to think theism interferres with rational thinking. It does not.

    Oh, and btw, when I think of physical happenings, I don't factor in my beliefs.

    with respect of course it interferes with rational thinking(well depends on your definition of rational), but to me putting creationism and ID over evolution isn't rational, an omni-prescent being isn't rational


    surely when your looking at forces of nature or whatever, there must be some of your belief system in there somewhere/
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaincaveman
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    i'd like all thiests to become athiests so we can deal with the other issues in the world with a rational train of thought, without it being clouded by peoples dreamy views

    by the way thats an honest answer and not trolling
    You seem to think theism interferres with rational thinking. It does not.

    Oh, and btw, when I think of physical happenings, I don't factor in my beliefs.

    with respect of course it interferes with rational thinking(well depends on your definition of rational), but to me putting creationism and ID over evolution isn't rational, an omni-prescent being isn't rational
    But you're over-generalising. I, for one, don't put creationism and ID over evolution. I do believe that God created everything, but I also believe that we came about by evolution. Do the two contradict each other? No. Thus, it's perfectly normal for someone to hold a belief in both.

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    surely when your looking at forces of nature or whatever, there must be some of your belief system in there somewhere/
    Well, I guess my post was kind of misleading. Certainly I look and say "God has surely done a great job with this here flora." But if I were to, say, investigate the cause of a disease, I wouldn't pray to God to make me figure out what's causing it and then sit on my be-hind and wait for some miracle to happen. Rather, I would do actual scientific research (though I may pray to God to help me with my research, I in no way take that as an assurance that I will make a breakthrough).
    Whence comes this logic: no evidence = false?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scientstphilosophertheist
    You seem to think theism interferres with rational thinking. It does not.
    I second that. Absolutely true.
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    the point i was trying to make is that theism is irrational in the sense of believing in an all seeing miraclr working deity, i dont mean all theist are irrational in all aspect of their scientific work
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaincaveman
    the point i was trying to make is that theism is irrational in the sense of believing in an all seeing miraclr working deity, i dont mean all theist are irrational in all aspect of their scientific work
    That makes a lot more sense.

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    I'd like various provocative things, so i won't mention them, but one thing i would like is for all politicians to be given jobs as dustbin men and for all the sane quantum physicists to be put in charge of running the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaincaveman
    i'd like all thiests to become athiests so we can deal with the other issues in the world with a rational train of thought...
    This is assuming that we must attain some goal. Without a goal there would be no issues to attend to. So, what goal does an athiest have? It seems to me that most athiest must know that there is no goal or purpose; does this mean we should all jump off a cliff? hmmm... or is this not a rational train of thought. If you decide to answer, consider the fact that I am not religious.

    As for me... ha, this is a weird one. Truly happy....

    I guess I would first have to know what happiness is. It is an emotional state right? So attaining complete happiness does not mean attaining what you want most. Instead it means what thing can cause you to have the greatest emotional reaction.

    That being said I would think the thing that would make me most happy is the smell of real fresh air. And to focus so hard on that single breath that it never ends.

    In answer to your other questions: It would feel good and last forever ("at least for me") and that should also explain why it would make me happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sderenzi
    I'm curious, what out of everything in the world would make you truly happy? It can be anything you like but please tell us what it would feel like, be like, and why you'd finally be utterly happy with life.

    No one individual will ever be finally utterly happy with life. Unless they're lying to themselves.

    It is a cold dark world we live in and the majority of life is pain, struggle and hardship - or - it is trivial and boring. What ever moments of happiness one may experience are just that: "Moments". Brief and fleeting. For the most part people are either dealing with problems or they are simply content with the everyday mediocrocy that exist around them. This is not pessimism just realism. So many people keep dreaming that one day they will wake up and everything will be settled - all of their problems solved. And when this doesn't happen they piss and whine about how unfair life treats them. Not me. I do not think in terms of happiness. If anything, I all but embrace lifes hardships. Every time shit is about to happen I say "Bring it on".

    One thing I don't want is to be swallowed up by some faith or ideology that is constantly trying to lure me in with the promise of peace and enlightenment. I don't want enlightenment I want victory and success. That may not be something that last forever but it is something you can taste and relish for the moment. All I truly want is to be strong and capable. Capable of dealing with lifes challenges as they come. And make no mistake, they will come.
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    is contentment the same as happiness ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sderenzi
    I'm curious, what out of everything in the world would make you truly happy? It can be anything you like but please tell us what it would feel like, be like, and why you'd finally be utterly happy with life.
    I'm very, happy in my personal domain, when I step outside that, I fear for the world, all I see is the followers of one religion, killing the followers of another, there is no sanity. the irrationalities of all religions control and destroy, common sense. ( and I include communism in this, Such regimes are dogmatic to the core and generally give rise to personality cults that are indistinguishable from cults of religious hero worship.) however dont make the mistake of likening atheism to communism, this is a common mistake made by theists, typically those of the fundy type, they believe atheism is essentially socialist or communist in nature. Thus, atheism should be rejected since socialism and communism are evil. How stupid!

    Communism is not, however, inherently atheistic. It is possible to have communistic or socialistic views while being a theist and it isn't at all wrong to be an atheist while staunchly defending capitalism, which is a combination often found among objectivists and libertarians.
    their existence alone demonstrates, that atheism and communism are not the same thing.

    now back to what would make me happy, eradicating, all belief in god/gods, religions.
    "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense - Buddha"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolt
    Quote Originally Posted by sderenzi
    I'm curious, what out of everything in the world would make you truly happy? It can be anything you like but please tell us what it would feel like, be like, and why you'd finally be utterly happy with life.

    No one individual will ever be finally utterly happy with life. Unless they're lying to themselves.

    It is a cold dark world we live in and the majority of life is pain, struggle and hardship - or - it is trivial and boring. What ever moments of happiness one may experience are just that: "Moments". Brief and fleeting. For the most part people are either dealing with problems or they are simply content with the everyday mediocrocy that exist around them. This is not pessimism just realism. So many people keep dreaming that one day they will wake up and everything will be settled - all of their problems solved. And when this doesn't happen they piss and whine about how unfair life treats them. Not me. I do not think in terms of happiness. If anything, I all but embrace lifes hardships. Every time shit is about to happen I say "Bring it on".

    One thing I don't want is to be swallowed up by some faith or ideology that is constantly trying to lure me in with the promise of peace and enlightenment. I don't want enlightenment I want victory and success. That may not be something that last forever but it is something you can taste and relish for the moment. All I truly want is to be strong and capable. Capable of dealing with lifes challenges as they come. And make no mistake, they will come.
    A little pessimistic, are we?

    I can't state what would make me happy, as there are children browsing these forums.

    I'm kidding, of course.

    Edit: Kolt, what's up with changing your avatar every second??
    Whence comes this logic: no evidence = false?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geezer
    Quote Originally Posted by sderenzi
    I'm curious, what out of everything in the world would make you truly happy? It can be anything you like but please tell us what it would feel like, be like, and why you'd finally be utterly happy with life.
    I'm very, happy in my personal domain, when I step outside that, I fear for the world, all I see is the followers of one religion, killing the followers of another, there is no sanity. the irrationalities of all religions control and destroy, common sense. ( and I include communism in this, Such regimes are dogmatic to the core and generally give rise to personality cults that are indistinguishable from cults of religious hero worship.) however dont make the mistake of likening atheism to communism, this is a common mistake made by theists, typically those of the fundy type, they believe atheism is essentially socialist or communist in nature. Thus, atheism should be rejected since socialism and communism are evil. How stupid!

    Communism is not, however, inherently atheistic. It is possible to have communistic or socialistic views while being a theist and it isn't at all wrong to be an atheist while staunchly defending capitalism, which is a combination often found among objectivists and libertarians.
    their existence alone demonstrates, that atheism and communism are not the same thing.
    You seem to be saying communism is evil. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    now back to what would make me happy, eradicating, all belief in god/gods, religions.
    This is a dangerous thing: something that would probably make other people very unhappy.
    Whence comes this logic: no evidence = false?

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    now back to what would make me happy, eradicating, all belief in god/gods, religions.
    common, would that really make you happy? all you are doing is getting rif of one class of asshole.

    NOW IF YOU ARE SUPERMAN. think of how many classes of asshole you can get rid of then.
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    starting with superman ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scientstphilosophertheist
    A little pessimistic, are we?

    I can't state what would make me happy, as there are children browsing these forums. :twisted:

    I'm kidding, of course.

    Edit: Kolt, what's up with changing your avatar every second??

    No. I don't wish for bad things to happen anymore than the next man. But I don't hide myself from the simple fact that they do. Regardless of whether I whish it or not.

    As I said before, it's not pessimism. I just don't try and shape the world into an idea that best fits my sensibilities. The world doesn't care about my ideas or sensibilities. There is far too much hoping and preaching and praying and intellectualizing these days - and not enough ass kicking.

    I suppose what would or what does make me happy is this: Life is cruel. It is constantly trying to beat you down. Solution? Stand up, laugh in the face of missfourtune and fight back. Even if you don't win it doesn't matter. Just as long as you cause as much damage as possible. One thing my old man taught me was "If you can't win 'em - ram 'em". It is those few moments in life where you actually turn the tables in you favor, where you're the one left standing with that shit-eaten' grin on your face - Those are the moments that make me happy.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolt
    No one individual will ever be finally utterly happy with life. Unless they're lying to themselves.

    It is a cold dark world we live in and the majority of life is pain, struggle and hardship - or - it is trivial and boring.
    Pain is not judgemental, people are. In other words if you think pain is bad or unhappy than your life will be bad or unhappy.

    As for me, I could care less about pain, just another of my many senses.
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    Getting back to the subject (hopefully), I say that we cannot even feel happiness without experiencing pain. It is only a relative state. So, there can be no forumula for "happiness," and there never has been one. The hedonists like to think they have it, but happiness is a relative state that you cannot achieve by going after it.
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    what would make u happy?
    I'd tell you but we can't put sexual content on here.
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