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    Kindly name those possible reasons for the transition of the universe from the state in which it was 14 billion. years ago to the state in which she is at the moment, which are consistent with indeterminism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bregriend View Post
    Kindly name those possible reasons for the transition of the universe from the state in which it was 14 billion. years ago to the state in which she is at the moment, which are consistent with indeterminism.
    Many will say that "reasons" for things happening is a human invention.

    For those who think this way, there are no reasons for anything, including the evolution of the universe to which you refer.

    It just is, and always will be, with or without humans to interpret it.

    Kindly provide proof that there must be a reason (or reasons), for anything.


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    Can anyone "give birth" to at least one possible reason for the transition of the universe from the state in which it was 14 billion. years ago to the state in which she now resides, which is consistent with indeterminism, or is there no such reason and everything in the universe is deterministic?


    Post scriptum: And I think it is intuitively clear that if there is not at least one possible reason for the transition of the universe from the state in which it was 14 billion. years ago, in the state in which it now resides, which is consistent with indeterminism, then indeterminism is not true and only determinism is true and only such a scientific theory about the universe or interpretation of quantum mechanics that is consistent with determinism is true.
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    To my amateur mind things are statistically deterministic on the macro level and not so much on the micro level(perhaps because statistics work differently in very small systems)

    I don't know if that is right or wrong.
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    In statistics, there is a tendency actuaries refer to as the "law of large numbers". That is to say, if you roll a million dice, you always get very nearly the same number of 1's as 6's. Etc. The totals become quasi-deterministic, even though we are talking about dice here.

    This is only important when the aggregate/total result is what you are interested in. It says nothing of the specifics of what order those 1's and 6's will happen in. What patterns will or won't emerge within the sets of outcomes,... etc.

    However, quite a lot of what happens in the universe, is due to aggregate results. Simply the total number of photons that veered left, as opposed to right. Or energy states that resulted in emitting a particle, or not emitting.
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