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  1. #1 New mode of production and its implications 
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    I apologize for the introduction. I didn't initially plan on submitting this, but it might make interesting discussion.

    Sometimes I forget how crazy and interesting our future is going to be. Trust me, it’s going to be crazy. And it will happen soon. It’s going to be a really weird, crazy and interesting life this one is going to be.

    All of these crazy ideas and pure sciences are going to come in handy. All of those ideas that had no use because of the lack of technology are going to be useful. The fact that there will be so many things possible that were previously impossible and because we’ve thought about all of those things which were at one time impossible, we’ll be ready to make use of those ideas. This is part of the reason why the nanotechnology revolution is just going to be so tremendous. It’s just going to be ridiculous.

    Take something stupid like flying cars. Why did those never work out? Because of a lack of sophisticated power or energy source? Because of the lack of lightweight materials? Because of the lack of safety? Trust me. All of those issues are going to go away. I will have a god damn flying car some day.

    But if everything will be automated and people won’t need jobs and everyone had what they needed, what would life be like? How would society, law and government work?

    I remember reading a paper in my philosophy class about how the mode of production in a society is really the determining factor of how the social order works. It argues convincingly about how the more sophisticated the mode of production, the more sophisticated the means of homeostasis of the society.

    First, there were tribes, which don’t need much of a social structure as there aren’t many people in a tribe. The relationships among the members are enough to maintain order. They may have had traditions like spirituals or praying for their lost members. Nothing substantial though.

    Then, and this took a long time, came agriculture, which spawned large communities. According to the theory, in order to keep everyone on the same page over long distances, the social elite invented religion and God. This produced the desired predictable behavior, homeostasis and interoperability among communities.

    Now we’re in a post-industrial/pre-nanotechnological time where the mode of production entails highly specialized working class, which has enabled us to create enormous amounts of food and material and distribute it very efficiently. This has created a very complex system of reinforcement. Capitalism and commercialism is now dominating the world. Since in a capitalist society the mode of production is owned by a group of individuals, wealth and power inevitably falls in favor of the owners. In the United States, the richest 1 percent of households owns 38 percent of all wealth. The disparity in the balance of wealth is enormous and the owners/elite are in control of everything. The elite do everything in their power to control the masses, whether they are instructing us to buy, vote for a particular politician, or they are controlling the information we are getting or how we interpret that information. According to the theory, all of this is a consequence of industrialization.

    As the mode of production changes, one notices that the time it takes to get to the next one keeps decreasing. First, we were nomads and gathers for a wickedly long time. Then for a less extremely long time we became agrarian. And then in the blink of an eye, we were industrialized. A nanosecond later, we’re due for another revolution.

    This revolution is going to fundamentally change how we interact with another, how we live our lives, and what it means to be human. In the next 20 or so years, we will be living in the middle of the golden age of nanotechnology. We won’t have to work to survive, we will have everything we need, everything will be dirt cheap, money will have no value, and scarcity will be virtually eliminated. And there will be no owners.
    What are the implications of that (besides the demise of capitalism)? If there are no owners, there will be no elite or massive power that controls us. We will probably lose our cohesion as a social order. The different races and families will probably group back together and form tribes not dissimilar to those from the nomad times.

    Certainly our values will change. Since food, shelter and nourishment will be unnaturally abundant, so we will appreciate them less. How will tribes coexist with other tribes? Will life suck?

    I apologize for how poorly written this is. I did it pretty quickly. What are your ideas on the future of society?

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    Forum Radioactive Isotope cosmictraveler's Avatar
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    It depends on many unknown variables that we don't know as yet. I can only comment that we humans are upon the precipice of our own demise or it's ongoing struggle to survive. The environment is one area we must be very concerned with for without a healthy environment we won't last very long as geologic time goes. It also depends upon the greedy humans and how far they will go in insure themselves wealth and control.It isn't going to be to good around this planet if we cannot get ourselves together in order to help everyone out to some degree instead of taking, we must be willing to give more than we take.

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    Forum Freshman craterchains's Avatar
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    Hi Randy;
    You pose, if I have this correctly, that "production" methods will change the
    world. Granted it has, and will continue to change our lives. Nanotechnology and
    biotechnology are two very interesting fields. The technological revolution has
    changed our lives just as much, if not more so, as the industrial revolution did. And
    as usual, power and wealth seems to be staying in the same families.
    Cosmictraveler makes a very good point in our attitudes towards one another
    here on earth, as I am sure it would anywhere in the cosmos. Both of you agree
    mankind seem to be on some kind of threshold, just as I do. Many "feel" this way.
    Most for no reason in particular, they just feel that something is about to happen.
    Knowledge, and the wisdom to use it properly, for the benefit of all.
    Nanotechnology will indeed revolution the manufacturing industries, so would zero
    gravity production facilities. Let us hope mankind gets rid of the petty differences
    that get in the way of just learning and applying what we learn to help everyone.
    It's not what you know or don't know, but what you know that isn't so that will hurt you. Will Rodgers 1938
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