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  1. #1 Friedrich Nietzsche 
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    What does everyone think of this philosopher? I'm currently reading one of his books "Human All Too Human" and find that we have the same perspective on most subjects. I've just started reading though but so far very interesting.


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    I learn more about myself whilst reading him. Not implying that he wrote his books for me, but he is a large influence on my thinking and way of living.

    Always hard to say whether he caused most of my thinking and way or that he merely describes it..

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    The little I have read of him I found to be somewhat contrived, pretentious and tedious. I suspect his writing comes across better in the original. Works of philosophy probably suffer more than most from inadequate translation.
    I have a long plane flight coming up - perhaps I'll look out a copy of one of his works and give him another go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HomoUniversalis
    Always hard to say whether he caused most of my thinking and way or that he merely describes it..

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    That almost sounds like you've been assimilated Perhaps it's not safe to read philosophy books: You never know their reall intentions. Except for eternal happiness and so on and so forth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly
    Quote Originally Posted by HomoUniversalis
    Always hard to say whether he caused most of my thinking and way or that he merely describes it..

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    That almost sounds like you've been assimilated Perhaps it's not safe to read philosophy books: You never know their reall intentions. Except for eternal happiness and so on and so forth.
    I wouldn't say assimilated. If I find in Nietzsche's works a phrase or text I don't agree with, I ponder it and try to find meaning for it. If I can't, maybe I will in the future, but I don't force anything.

    What I am, I have created. I do not owe Nietzsche anything.

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    Well not that hard to explain.
    A Philosopher is one whose thinking and writing/explaining are co-ordinated. Means we everybody have different philosophical view but one who can recollect his thinking and explain in the way others can understand is a true philosopher.
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    Hi,

    Sorry I haven't read his book but I once saw a documentary on him.

    Frankly he seems way over rated. His concepts were either elementary, or just plain foolish.

    His private life ending in his death from an STD says a lot about his wisdom, or lack thereof. I tried to like him, after all his name gets thrown about so often you figure he must of had something really important to say, but in the end I had to conclude he didn't.

    Sometimes we make heroes of those who don't deserve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p1drobert
    Hi,

    Sorry I haven't read his book but I once saw a documentary on him.
    Let no one say that watching a documentary does not constitute a detailed intellectual investigation of an author who published over a dozen of influential philosophical works.

    Frankly he seems way over rated. His concepts were either elementary, or just plain foolish.
    You mean how he traces the genealogy of Christianity, offers a razor-sharp critique of it and judaism, and concludes that their values, without God, are without value. He creates a theory of perspectivism which aided by the myths 'die ewige Wiederkunft des Gleichen' and 'amor fati' offers a strong existential answer.
    He offered a new perspective on the Greeks, demonstrating how their Tragedy was a celebration of aestheticism.

    He offered a new means of looking at what drives individuals and develops the incredibly complex Will to Power, which in my view can be best interpreted as Dawkins' selfish gene. However, Nietzsche would declare that man still is interested in expansion and growing, not merely his genes.

    His private life ending in his death from an STD says a lot about his wisdom, or lack thereof.
    Please. It is uncertain what Nietzsche died off. To comment based on this on his wisdom is puerile, but then, that fits in your overall analysis if you don't mind me saying.

    I tried to like him, after all his name gets thrown about so often you figure he must of had something really important to say, but in the end I had to conclude he didn't.
    Sometimes we make heroes of those who don't deserve it.
    You concluded this on the basis of watching a documentary. I do not suggest, however, you read his books. If your conclusion satisfies you, I wish you great fortune with it.

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    Hi,

    I don't mind you saying. Thats what we're here for.

    Yes, I know a documentary is a readers digest view of things, but the essential facts were there. Documentaries are made from another persons perspective and often contain information about the subject that the subject would not generally reveal. Therefore a documentary, if correctly done, will tell us more than books by the author. I decided to leave out his incestous love for his sister, or bizzare sexual inclinations.

    The documentary showed him to have few friends, and was often rejected even by those few friends. Clearly he doesn't understand human nature or he wouldn't be driving people away. Can a person who doesn't have a true understanding of human nature really be a great philospher. I doubt it. The fact that many people already share a few of his beliefs, even before reading his, proves that his great inspirations were elementary, and bound to occur to anyone of reasonable inteligence. The other great inspirations of his are open to debate, and in my case rejected.

    You asked what I thought, I told you. Surely there must be some theories of his you don't agree with? They couldn't all be gems.

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