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    It's a request.

    Many answers of different types welcome.

    Pick apart the idea of "soul" and "destroying".

    Maybe google "soul-destroying" for a layman's term.

    Happy for any answer.


    Is it a question?

    No, stated is "define" (and cite any references).


    Many many thanks for any input.


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    In colloquial usage this is an example of hyperbole. As such it means deeply frustrating; depressing; discouraging, very disappointing. It implies that something you have been working towards for some time, or much effort, has been (apparently) permanently thwarted.


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    O
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    Great.

    (btw, how do you get a "like" within 3mins?....that's soul destroying...to me)
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    ....I've never had a "like".....
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    In colloquial usage this is an example of hyperbole. As such it means deeply frustrating; depressing; discouraging, very disappointing. It implies that something you have been working towards for some time, or much effort, has been (apparently) permanently thwarted.
    I'll give your answer justice. Ok. Thank you. You're right. It's like digging your own grave right?
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    All right.

    Very hard to annotate or google.

    Take your word for it.
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    My idea here is this; if we can localise a performance that makes us feel like crap, is it us or is it something else?
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    Time wins this one.
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    No takers on the philosophy of soul or destroying, no annotation of commonly held internet searched ideas?
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    ......and excuse this multiple post.......

    so what is not doing anything that is soul-destroying? Is there hope in the idea itself of science, of hypothesis, without being banished?

    Would anyone agree science today leaves little to a soul's imagination?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuffFailing View Post
    My idea here is this; if we can localise a performance that makes us feel like crap, is it us or is it something else?
    Perceiving something as soul-destroying is an entirely subjective action and therefore it is ourselves who must take the responsibility for the feeling. We may not have control of events, but we have control over our reaction to them.

    No takers on the philosophy of soul or destroying, no annotation of commonly held internet searched ideas?
    I have no idea what you mean by this. will you clarify?


    so what is not doing anything that is soul-destroying?
    And this? What does it mean? It seems to mean what is the opposite of doing something that is soul destroying? To which the trivial answer appears to be, non-soul destroying. So what are you really asking?

    Is there hope in the idea itself of science, of hypothesis, without being banished?
    Again, I read the words, but have no idea what they mean. Indeed they appear to have zero meaning.

    Would anyone agree science today leaves little to a soul's imagination?
    I would disagree completely. The ongoing, dramatic discoveries of science are an inspiration. If you think otherwise, perhaps you're not paying attention.
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    O
    k, you're a happy chappy. And you have likes. Why you're responding to my thread with any care Is beyond me.


    ("beyond me".....like, you win :/ . moderator man)
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    Soul-destroying: when you feel like your insides have been wedgied.
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    stuff Failing: If you want to dialogue science-theory-wise about soul theory, you're not in the correct Forum. Quantum and Relativity theory are entrenched in this Forum, and those formulations have yet to find scientific correlations to the concept of souls. I'd suggest a forum dealing with ether (sometimes spelled aether).
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuffFailing View Post
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    k, you're a happy chappy. And you have likes. Why you're responding to my thread with any care Is beyond me.


    ("beyond me".....like, you win :/ . moderator man)
    I responded to it for three reasons:
    1. You asked a question I felt competent to provide an answer for. I participate in the forum, in part, to provide answers.
    2. You seemed to have a negative viewpoint. I believe negative viewpoints should be challenged.
    3. I had no idea what some of your posts meant. I asked you for clarification on several points. You chose not clarify. That disappointed me. Why, it was almost soul destroying.

    And I responded to it with care, since I prefer not to be careless.
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    In the two days prior to that fateful night Sampson, my rabbit-fur Abyssinian cat, had been growing increasingly agitated. Though his footfalls were silent as the night, I could feel his presence as he stalked me down the hallways of our house. The hairs on my neck poked into the air when I spotted his amber eyes shining at me from the recesses of a far off room shrouded in blackness. I had not yet realized that his automatic feeder had ceased to function. Woe that I did not check the batteries regularly.

    Over the course of those days I had begun to feel the energy draining from me, a weakness had crept over my body. I had no fever, no aches nor ills. What was this invisible hand pulling the life from my body? On that last night, as sleep finally began to take my weary mind to those other-worldly fancies, I had thought the unseen grip to be finally relinquishing me. But in my shallow slumber, breath itself grew hard to come by. I fought to pull it into my lungs, the life-giving air. When I could no longer stand the aching longing in my chest my eyes shot open, a cold sweat had enveloped me. There, I saw it!

    Upon my breast sat Sampson, his enormous weight belaboring my breath. His eyes, those piercing eyes, could see all that I was. He did not peer simply into my face, but into my soul. And leached it. His hunger pangs fed by my very essence. I had not the strength to fight back. His twenty pound frame could as well have been twenty tons. With the last of my air, I forced the words from my lips, "I should have checked the damn batteries..."

    That is how my soul was destroyed.
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    I know. Poor kitty.

    It is a shame though science has no "soul" right? I mean a soul is unscientific, agreed. So how can science per-se have soul?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuffFailing View Post
    It is a shame though science has no "soul" right? I mean a soul is unscientific, agreed. So how can science per-se have soul?
    Because scientists too use metaphors.
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    Trolley collection. It's the ultimate in soul destruction.
    It's an obscene game of 'fetch', and you're the dog.
    Try as you might to herd those hollow metal cows, they just wander off by the hundred.
    You find them scattered to the four winds, behind cars, beneath bushes, up trees.
    No matter how quick you are, the trolleys are quicker, and they'll stop at nothing to break you, mind, body and spirit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    In colloquial usage this is an example of hyperbole. As such it means deeply frustrating; depressing; discouraging, very disappointing. It implies that something you have been working towards for some time, or much effort, has been (apparently) permanently thwarted.
    Hmm. I've also considered the term what you suggest but much deeper with life changing affects to the worse as in the person spends the rest of their life as a drunk, or living under a bridge. Seen several folks in my life go down that road, one was an uncle who suddenly lost his three kids and his wife and turned into a drug addict who eventually killed himself--it's not pretty. No hyperbole AT ALL.
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    for a simple answer to an either complex question or a simple question depending on how you look at it.

    If your religious and believe in an afterlife then soul destroying is intentionally causing harm to yourself or others otherwise known as sinning. and your soul will be dammed for eternity.

    If your scientific you can class "soul destroying" as any self-destructive behaviors hence the phrase self-destructive.

    That or suicide
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    A similar term "soul crushing" sometimes comes up as well--- often in reference to a third party making things so difficult as to destroy other's opportunities, as in the oppression and environment in many impoverished communities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    In colloquial usage this is an example of hyperbole. As such it means deeply frustrating; depressing; discouraging, very disappointing. It implies that something you have been working towards for some time, or much effort, has been (apparently) permanently thwarted.
    Hmm. I've also considered the term what you suggest but much deeper with life changing affects to the worse as in the person spends the rest of their life as a drunk, or living under a bridge. Seen several folks in my life go down that road, one was an uncle who suddenly lost his three kids and his wife and turned into a drug addict who eventually killed himself--it's not pretty. No hyperbole AT ALL.
    The story of your uncle is tragic, in the literal sense of the word. I agree it is definitely not hyperbole. However, for every example of that sort there are a million of the other sort. And, no, I don't think I've been guilty of hyperbole there. If anything it may have been understatement.
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    I was trying to figure out if "soul destroying" was one of those terms that come to be in vogue and so watered down that they loose their original meaning after a while.

    For my generation as a New England 1970's teenager the term "wicked" became one of those word...used so often for anything slightly disturbing, which annoyed the heck of our of parents and horrified our grand parents because to them it meant something truly horrified, like a man who'd gleefully pull the handle to execute a man.

    As I've grown older I noticed the word "awesome" was similarly being watered down by overuse. To me something awesome is that experience that comes along perhaps once a year, or less, that completely grabs my emotional and rational side of me with surprise for example.
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    How though Is our soul properly weighed with all these stories?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuffFailing View Post
    How though Is our soul properly weighed with all these stories?
    It isn't because there is no such tangible thing. How do you weight a dream?
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    I believe the old study showing a slight decrease in body weight right after dying (an ounce or so) is just the escape of gasses from the body's orifices, as the gas retentive gut-sphincters relax, compared to their normal sphincter-tone in life. Intestinal gasses are heavier than air. Soul entities would not be physical and weigh in physically.
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    Souls are just farts we hold in. Got it.
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