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    What is the point of life? The way people are made, it seems like the point of life would be to survive and pass down the genes. But, when you are surviving. You have nothing else to do. So you have fun. You sing songs, use a computer, or whatever, just to pass time. You could live with a low paying job, just surviving. But you want a high paying job. People get high paying jobs, not so they can survive better, but so they can afford more fun passtimes. a rich person would have a bunch of fancy cars, etc, just to pass the time.


    After you meet the basic need of surviving, you do your best to have the most fun possible. Just think. Every thing that people buy, that is not related to working or survivng (food, car, etc) is a passtime. a phone, to talk with friends. music, to have fun. a computer, to play games, or to talk on this forum. all of it is just pass times. people dont want money so they can better the human race. they want money so they can afford the most fun passtimes.


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    Karl Pilkington put it best when he said that poor people are told to get off their ass and work harder by rich people who worked hard so they could afford to sit around on their ass.


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    Over 80 percent of the Earths population Is considered "poor" and have little else to do but try and survive from day to day. These people can't sit around and do as you say but instead must try and provide a meal and shelter in order to live their lives which are many times short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    Over 80 percent of the Earths population Is considered "poor" and have little else to do but try and survive from day to day. These people can't sit around and do as you say but instead must try and provide a meal and shelter in order to live their lives which are many times short.
    Tell that to a quarter of Americans: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-27-of-americans-think-poor-are-lazy/
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    Over 80 percent of the Earths population Is considered "poor" and have little else to do but try and survive from day to day. These people can't sit around and do as you say but instead must try and provide a meal and shelter in order to live their lives which are many times short.
    ok, that doesnt really have anything to do with what i said.
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    Be that as it may, your question ...

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    What is the point of life?
    ... is meaningless as it implies we have some kind of purpose or that life needs to have meaning. We exist purely because we came to be. If an individual finds it necessary to apply a meaning to his or her individual existence, that is purely up to them.
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    Hello, Weterman, from a fellow Canadian from the northern region.

    You ask the question, "What is the point of life?" and you hypothesize in your thread title that the answer is 'to pass time'. You make the case that once our basic needs are met that all further energy goes toward the procurement of more and better ways to 'pass time'.

    As other posters have pointed out, a great number of people are too busy staying alive to pass time in any other way except to try to find a bit of food and shelter.

    You do make an interesting point though, in that the affluent 20% of the global population seems to think it is a higher priority to entertain themselves than to share some of their excess means with the less fortunate people in the world.
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    Pong chiming in from Lotusland, the Hive of Hedonism, Vancouver BC.

    I know what Weterman's saying. Most people around here take their occupations and hobbies pretty casually. Put in the hours to pay the mortgage, find something to do on the weekend. Even travel is like "I dunno. Where do you wanna go?" The sharpest person I know, has spent at least two hours of every day since 1998, playing Windows Minesweeper, or Solitaire.

    Japan would shock you. It's a nation of keeners. You're assumed to have an obsessive hobby, that really geeks you out. Whether it's jogging, astronomy, carpentry or needlepoint, the standard of intensity would label us at home "eccentric". It seems that focus, in itself, can be fun. Or maybe an escape, to cope with stress of daily life.

    Fun, or happiness, doesn't really work out as an end in itself. The drug use in this city brings it into sharp relief. If the greatest purpose of someone's life is to be happy, well then, that's easy. Heroin will make you happier in five seconds than the total of your entire life's happiness put together. Then it's a sane, rational calculation what is best to do next. If to be happy, truly happy, is one's greatest aspiration, that is. To choose otherwise is irrational, why irrational means of salvation work best in rehab.

    Secular societies champion happiness as the greatest good, since it's what most people agree on. Even a baby can pursue that.

    Do you want Canadians to find a collective purpose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong View Post
    Pong chiming in from Lotusland, the Hive of Hedonism, Vancouver BC.

    I know what Weterman's saying. Most people around here take their occupations and hobbies pretty casually. Put in the hours to pay the mortgage, find something to do on the weekend. Even travel is like "I dunno. Where do you wanna go?" The sharpest person I know, has spent at least two hours of every day since 1998, playing Windows Minesweeper, or Solitaire.

    Japan would shock you. It's a nation of keeners. You're assumed to have an obsessive hobby, that really geeks you out. Whether it's jogging, astronomy, carpentry or needlepoint, the standard of intensity would label us at home "eccentric". It seems that focus, in itself, can be fun. Or maybe an escape, to cope with stress of daily life.

    Fun, or happiness, doesn't really work out as an end in itself. The drug use in this city brings it into sharp relief. If the greatest purpose of someone's life is to be happy, well then, that's easy. Heroin will make you happier in five seconds than the total of your entire life's happiness put together. Then it's a sane, rational calculation what is best to do next. If to be happy, truly happy, is one's greatest aspiration, that is. To choose otherwise is irrational, why irrational means of salvation work best in rehab.

    Secular societies champion happiness as the greatest good, since it's what most people agree on. Even a baby can pursue that.

    Do you want Canadians to find a collective purpose?
    Pong, heroin can also make you unhappy in 5 seconds, I guess it depends on ones state of mind. However I do agree with you.
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    ok, that doesnt really have anything to do with what i said.
    But it does. Read your statement and you say that...

    After you meet the basic need of surviving, you do your best to have the most fun possible. Just think. Every thing that people buy, that is not related to working or survivng (food, car, etc) is a passtime. a phone, to talk with friends. music, to have fun. a computer, to play games, or to talk on this forum. all of it is just pass times. people dont want money so they can better the human race. they want money so they can afford the most fun pastimes
    If the poor do not have any money how is it they can do all of those things you say that everyone is doing?
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    Heroin will make you happier in five seconds than the total of your entire life's happiness put together
    No drug will make you "happy" for being "happy" is a state of mind that only you can do without any drugs. Heroin will kill you in 5 seconds as it has done to millions of people through the years. Heroin is highly addictive and when you become addicted to it you need more and more to get you high. You never know what type of heroin you are buying because your dealer doesn't test the heroin they get and many times cut the heroin with other things to make more profits. Doing heroin is like playing Russian Roulette, you never know when that next injection will get you high or make you die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    "happy" is a state of mind that only you can do without any drugs.
    Fair enough. I meant "happy" the state of brain.
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    What is the point of life, is Weterman's question, to find ways to pass time is his surmise. To be 'happy' has now been added to the mix.

    'Happy' is a subjective state of mind that is completely arbitrary and varies between individuals. Some persons seem capable of being happy with very little cause while others do not seem to be capable of comprehending the state of mind involved because of physical or pysychological inadequacy.

    Humans appear to be troubled by the need to find a reason or purpose in life. My observation of several other species would lead me to conclude that unless humans intervene, other species seem well able to occupy themselves. Interestingly, when we do interfere and confine some species, they develop behavioral problems that have not been witnessed in the wild. Horses and dogs especially are seen to develop some strange habits when they lack physical and mental stimulation.

    They, too, seem to need a way to 'pass the time'. Eating and sleeping is not enough for many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    Horses and dogs especially are seen to develop some strange habits when they lack physical and mental stimulation.
    They're optimized to live in a challenging environment. So are we. The paradox we face is that, being great problem solvers, we can't help eradicating the challenges from our lives. Finally the greatest challenge is boredom, on a depressing background of those remaining problems we've given up trying to fix.

    I always look forward to shoveling snow. Perhaps I should invent a better snowshovel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong View Post
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    Horses and dogs especially are seen to develop some strange habits when they lack physical and mental stimulation.
    They're optimized to live in a challenging environment. So are we. The paradox we face is that, being great problem solvers, we can't help eradicating the challenges from our lives. Finally the greatest challenge is boredom, on a depressing background of those remaining problems we've given up trying to fix.

    I always look forward to shoveling snow. Perhaps I should invent a better snowshovel?
    Invent a better snow shovel and you will undoubtedly make a fortune and then become more bored than ever, lol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong View Post
    Pong chiming in from Lotusland, the Hive of Hedonism, Vancouver BC.

    I know what Weterman's saying. Most people around here take their occupations and hobbies pretty casually. Put in the hours to pay the mortgage, find something to do on the weekend. Even travel is like "I dunno. Where do you wanna go?" The sharpest person I know, has spent at least two hours of every day since 1998, playing Windows Minesweeper, or Solitaire.

    Japan would shock you. It's a nation of keeners. You're assumed to have an obsessive hobby, that really geeks you out. Whether it's jogging, astronomy, carpentry or needlepoint, the standard of intensity would label us at home "eccentric". It seems that focus, in itself, can be fun. Or maybe an escape, to cope with stress of daily life.

    Fun, or happiness, doesn't really work out as an end in itself. The drug use in this city brings it into sharp relief. If the greatest purpose of someone's life is to be happy, well then, that's easy. Heroin will make you happier in five seconds than the total of your entire life's happiness put together. Then it's a sane, rational calculation what is best to do next. If to be happy, truly happy, is one's greatest aspiration, that is. To choose otherwise is irrational, why irrational means of salvation work best in rehab.

    Secular societies champion happiness as the greatest good, since it's what most people agree on. Even a baby can pursue that.

    Do you want Canadians to find a collective purpose?
    if the point of life is to be happy, or to have fun, could i have a better life by doing risky fun things, and a fun but low paying job, than if i would have a good high paying job, work everyday, and use my money for a little fun after work? what is the point of earning money if you have no time to use it?
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    if the point of life is to survive, then what to do when you are sure you will survive? a guy can realize how pointless life is, if he has everything he needs. if he works for "fun" things, its allright, but if he doesnt have to work for "fun things", he could get bored of fun things, and realize how pointless life actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weterman View Post
    if the point of life is to be happy, or to have fun, could i have a better life by doing risky fun things, and a fun but low paying job, than if i would have a good high paying job, work everyday, and use my money for a little fun after work? what is the point of earning money if you have no time to use it?

    if the point of life is to survive, then what to do when you are sure you will survive? a guy can realize how pointless life is, if he has everything he needs. if he works for "fun" things, its allright, but if he doesnt have to work for "fun things", he could get bored of fun things, and realize how pointless life actually is.
    That's what the samurai cashed in on. First, a religious conviction that all life is a futile game wherein death is welcome even. Second, conditioning to realize one's own survival instincts and reflexes rather save and inhibit oneself from danger. From this basis a person strives rather to overcome caution and hesitation. The practical result is warriors who think and act decisively while their enemies ponder what to do.

    People who have hit bottom psychologically, financially, and come back up, may also gain a sense of fearlessness. Experience has taught them they're indestructible. Most obvious example is hitchhikers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong View Post
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    if the point of life is to be happy, or to have fun, could i have a better life by doing risky fun things, and a fun but low paying job, than if i would have a good high paying job, work everyday, and use my money for a little fun after work? what is the point of earning money if you have no time to use it?

    if the point of life is to survive, then what to do when you are sure you will survive? a guy can realize how pointless life is, if he has everything he needs. if he works for "fun" things, its allright, but if he doesnt have to work for "fun things", he could get bored of fun things, and realize how pointless life actually is.
    That's what the samurai cashed in on. First, a religious conviction that all life is a futile game wherein death is welcome even. Second, conditioning to realize one's own survival instincts and reflexes rather save and inhibit oneself from danger. From this basis a person strives rather to overcome caution and hesitation. The practical result is warriors who think and act decisively while their enemies ponder what to do.

    People who have hit bottom psychologically, financially, and come back up, may also gain a sense of fearlessness. Experience has taught them they're indestructible. Most obvious example is hitchhikers.
    if you think it doesnt matter if you are in tons of debt. it will just make your life worse. your "life" is just a passtime until death. life can be compared to a night. A bad night - you have no covers, your outside, its cold, you cant sleep. its hell. a bad life- your in debt, living paycheck to paycheck, missing a few meals here and there.

    you survive just fine, at the end of it you might die 10 years earlier, but that just makes the time go by faster, and you will have more effectively passed the time, by not having a good life.
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    There is no point to life. A bitter reality.

    Doesnt matter if you are rich, poor, or a serial killer awaiting the needle. No point.

    be good, be bad. In the end, there is no point in any of it.

    Consider, there are approx 7 billion people on this planet. Most, you will never ever see or meet and most of the people you do meet you are nothing but background noise in their life (car passing by, person in-front of you in checkout line, random photo on the internet, ect) Even me, i am just background noise in your life yet just by reading this you have more interaction with me than over 99% of everyone else on the planet. filtered down even more, you have maybe 100-300 people in your life you have had more than passing contact with but not interaction on a regular basis. School chums, old flings, co-workers, ect..

    Filter it down more, there might be 10-30 people tops you frequent on a daily basis. Friends, family, preacher, current co-workers. This is 30 out of 7 billion, these are also always evolving and changing. Death, moving, new job, new wife, ect. Now consider this is typical of every one else. Every person on the planet has a story, experiences, & a life unique all to themselves that in no way involves you.

    You are also a product of a series of very random chances and various improbabilities to lead to "you" if your great great great grand parents did not meet you would not be alive, same with every occurance of interaction in your direct family tree up to you. it also had to be the 1 sperm out of millions that was you. if not, someone else would of been born who wouldn't be you, you are a product of random odds. a lottery winner that is played and won by millions of new births daily.

    This is 1 planet out of an entire universe. While we have no proof of other life, its highly likely we are not alone & this only addresses intelligent life.

    No one ever considers "whats the point of life" when they consider an insect, a dog, a fish. its only about "whats the point of life" for me or at best, for those 30 people unique to me.

    Asking, whats the point of life is quite self centered. Fun part is there isnt one. you are just here. Born, live, breath, die with no point.

    However I am reminded of a wonderful quote if this seems depressing (unfortunately I do not know whom to contribute it to) "If I exist then death does not, If death exist then I do not. Why fear something that cannot exist the same time I do?"

    Good words, truthful words.
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    The math truly is quite remarkable when one considers it. The odds against one having come into existence at all are astronomical and yet, here we are, exchanging bits of data by means of a technology in 'virtual reality'.

    The line between 'virtual' and 'reality' becomes a bit harder to define with each passing day, and when you actually contemplate the matter, does it even matter?

    Enjoy the journey, wherever it leads!
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    Well, i find the math remarkable for one particular person to come into existance. However for just "anybody" its not that remarkable. Life is quite easy, case in point. There are 7 billion of us.
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    Only 7 billion humans In a universe that contains trillions of planets, quite small I'd say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    The math truly is quite remarkable when one considers it. The odds against one having come into existence at all are astronomical and yet, here we are, exchanging bits of data by means of a technology in 'virtual reality'.

    The line between 'virtual' and 'reality' becomes a bit harder to define with each passing day, and when you actually contemplate the matter, does it even matter?

    Enjoy the journey, wherever it leads!
    makes me thing of where does my conscious come from. why are my thoughts inside me? Why don't i control someone else? why is me, me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weterman View Post
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    The math truly is quite remarkable when one considers it. The odds against one having come into existence at all are astronomical and yet, here we are, exchanging bits of data by means of a technology in 'virtual reality'.

    The line between 'virtual' and 'reality' becomes a bit harder to define with each passing day, and when you actually contemplate the matter, does it even matter?

    Enjoy the journey, wherever it leads!
    makes me thing of where does my conscious come from. why are my thoughts inside me? Why don't i control someone else? why is me, me?
    What you are experiencing is onism. From the dictionary of obscure sorrows

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    n. the frustration of being stuck in just one body, that inhabits only one place at a time, which is like standing in front of the departures screen at an airport, flickering over with strange place names like other people’s passwords, each representing one more thing you’ll never get to see before you die—and all because, as the arrow on the map helpfully points out, you are here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenRatio View Post
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    The math truly is quite remarkable when one considers it. The odds against one having come into existence at all are astronomical and yet, here we are, exchanging bits of data by means of a technology in 'virtual reality'.

    The line between 'virtual' and 'reality' becomes a bit harder to define with each passing day, and when you actually contemplate the matter, does it even matter?

    Enjoy the journey, wherever it leads!
    makes me thing of where does my conscious come from. why are my thoughts inside me? Why don't i control someone else? why is me, me?
    What you are experiencing is onism. From the dictionary of obscure sorrows

    Onism
    n. the frustration of being stuck in just one body, that inhabits only one place at a time, which is like standing in front of the departures screen at an airport, flickering over with strange place names like other people’s passwords, each representing one more thing you’ll never get to see before you die—and all because, as the arrow on the map helpfully points out, you are here.
    i dont think like that. i just wonder how it is that i got to take control of my body, and why not someone elses.
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    you won the lotto that is life.
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    I have been pretty damn poor, and happy.

    I have been with a little but not a lot and happy.

    I have been comfortable and happy.

    I have been doing well and happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    I have been pretty damn poor, and happy.

    I have been with a little but not a lot and happy.

    I have been comfortable and happy.

    I have been doing well and happy.
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    its easy to be happy in life.

    on average, you get a little over 70 years on this planet. might seem like a long time but its not, its an amazingly short amount of time.

    70years. Then goodbye. No more you. no second chances. So do whatever you like that makes you happy. Travel, rock climb, swim, post on websites. There is no going back in time, only forward to the inevitable.
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    its easy to be happy in life.

    on average, you get a little over 70 years on this planet. might seem like a long time but its not, its an amazingly short amount of time.

    70years. Then goodbye. No more you. no second chances. So do whatever you like that makes you happy. Travel, rock climb, swim, post on websites. There is no going back in time, only forward to the inevitable.
    i'd argue to the contrary, it's very difficult to be happy in life as life is full of suffering, in fact much of our happiness stems from overcoming suffering.
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    I have been pretty damn poor, and happy.

    I have been with a little but not a lot and happy.

    I have been comfortable and happy.

    I have been doing well and happy.


    Babe, have you ever flown to Neverland?
    Of course!! I was WENDY!!! SHEESH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
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    Babe, have you ever flown to Neverland?
    Of course!! I was WENDY!!! SHEESH!
    Wendy was hot stuff, such the sentiment of Lost Boys, I Tink.
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    Babe, have you ever flown to Neverland?
    Of course!! I was WENDY!!! SHEESH!
    Wendy was hot stuff, such the sentiment of Lost Boys, I Tink.
    Tink was not a happy camper.....she didn't wanna fairy dust me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trivium View Post
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    its easy to be happy in life.

    on average, you get a little over 70 years on this planet. might seem like a long time but its not, its an amazingly short amount of time.

    70years. Then goodbye. No more you. no second chances. So do whatever you like that makes you happy. Travel, rock climb, swim, post on websites. There is no going back in time, only forward to the inevitable.
    i'd argue to the contrary, it's very difficult to be happy in life as life is full of suffering, in fact much of our happiness stems from overcoming suffering.
    Its easier when you ignore it and laugh, learn not to care and it no longer bothers you

    Most people see a mass school shooting and see tragedy. I find humor and want to watch the instant replay. preferably with a closeup slowmo.
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    While I may agree that one needs to learn to maintain a safe emotional distance from events where one cannot influence the outcome, I can not, in any way, view the misfortune of others as 'humor'.

    I empathize very strongly with the losses of others and am always very thankful when those close to me are spared from tragic events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenRatio View Post
    Its easier when you ignore it and laugh, learn not to care and it no longer bothers you

    Most people see a mass school shooting and see tragedy. I find humor and want to watch the instant replay. preferably with a closeup slowmo.
    You're so full of shit.

    So do whatever you like that makes you happy. Travel, rock climb, swim, post on websites. There is no going back in time, only forward to the inevitable.
    Does that include living life as an asshole?

    Edit: you know, if my fun pastime included having GoldenRatio staring down the business end of an Uzi and me, a sadistic killer with an itchy trigger finger, then I really wouldn't care how much fun GRat would have if he watched the slo-mo replay.
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    lol see. saying im "cold" for lack of better words, and yet you wish death on me. judge not less ye be judged.

    I use to care, now i truly dont anymore. Life is easier i assure you.
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    ehhh. sure we want to have fun, but we also want to make the world a better place, If we didn't we would still be living in caves. What happens to a working dog when you don't find it a job to do? It destroys your home, and goes crazy. People are the same way. Some of us are workers, some of us are thinkers, some of us are only worried about having fun, some of us are lovers, ect, It goes on and on and into much more detail than I can imagine. So I do not think we all just want to have fun and pass time it is much more complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerNature View Post
    ehhh. sure we want to have fun, but we also want to make the world a better place, If we didn't we would still be living in caves. What happens to a working dog when you don't find it a job to do? It destroys your home, and goes crazy. People are the same way. Some of us are workers, some of us are thinkers, some of us are only worried about having fun, some of us are lovers, ect, It goes on and on and into much more detail than I can imagine. So I do not think we all just want to have fun and pass time it is much more complicated.
    uh.. yes. that sounds right.
    in my life though, it is just a repetition. school, work, fun, school, work, fun, etc....
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    I have done my work..........I have achieved....I can now do what I want and work when I want.....I live a great life....and I AM GRATEFUL! I also intend to live it with all the gusto I can while I can.

    And I am still a flirt. Thank you, Jesus. I'm not dead yet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    I have done my work..........I have achieved....I can now do what I want and work when I want.....I live a great life....and I AM GRATEFUL! I also intend to live it with all the gusto I can while I can.

    And I am still a flirt. Thank you, Jesus. I'm not dead yet!
    Babe, now you are confusing me, "thank you Jesus?" Does he live in your life, I mean the son of god?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargate View Post
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    I have done my work..........I have achieved....I can now do what I want and work when I want.....I live a great life....and I AM GRATEFUL! I also intend to live it with all the gusto I can while I can.

    And I am still a flirt. Thank you, Jesus. I'm not dead yet!
    Babe, now you are confusing me, "thank you Jesus?" Does he live in your life, I mean the son of god?
    Nope...it's an EXPRESSION!!!!! Like, "Bless You" when people sneeze....an expression....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weterman View Post
    What is the point of life? The way people are made, it seems like the point of life would be to survive and pass down the genes.
    Does there need to be a point to our existence? The reason why humans may want to find a point to life or a reason to life is so that they can better explain the uncontrollable purpose of their consciousness and intelligence. We could say the point of life is to survive and pass down human genetics, just like we could say the point to our life is to interact with and love everything around us. Since we do not have a definitive answer to how and why we were created, the point of life is based upon personal opinion and philosophy. Surviving and passing down our genetics is a natural function that most humans do. The only issue with this statement is that not all humans pass down their genes and if they did pass down their genetics did they fail to meet their purpose in life?

    But, when you are surviving. You have nothing else to do. So you have fun.
    You sing songs, use a computer, or whatever, just to pass time.
    Surviving is a constant thing we do. We are surviving the entire time we are living and the only time we stop surviving is when we are dead. You can definitely not have fun and have other things to do. What about learning? What about sleeping? What about hurting? What about crying? Note that having fun is still a form of surviving as is hurting. We do have fun and pass time, but we also do other things, apart from having fun, and pass time as well.


    You could live with a low paying job, just surviving. But you want a high paying job. People get high paying jobs, not so they can survive better, but so they can afford more fun passtimes. a rich person would have a bunch of fancy cars, etc, just to pass the time.
    It is important to note that surviving is living. The way you are living is how you are surviving. So when you say, "People get high paying jobs, not so they can survive better", this is an incorrect statement. Survive is the same as live. As we stated surviving is living. So how are you living/surviving your life when you are rich? Buying cars, buying houses, buying food, doing drugs, buying a casket, having surgery, having teeth implants, and buying yachts? Passing time is living and living is surviving.


    After you meet the basic need of surviving, you do your best to have the most fun possible. Just think. Every thing that people buy, that is not related to working or survivng (food, car, etc) is a passtime. a phone, to talk with friends. music, to have fun. a computer, to play games, or to talk on this forum. all of it is just pass times. people dont want money so they can better the human race. they want money so they can afford the most fun passtimes.
    We humans do prefer things to go easy for us. The simple fact is that things do not always come easy for any of us. I remember when I was in the military there was guys who drunk alcohol all the time. Instead of joining them I worked out to be healthier. It wasnt fun to me. It actually hurt and I hated it. My shoulder eventually got dislocated and I had surgery on it. I had to work it out all the time. Everything we do in life is a past time. Some use their time more wisely than others and some have fun with their time.
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    I am here, to live, learn, love, laugh, sing, act and find joy in things.

    I will not look back with regrets because I was afraid to do all of the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    I am here, to live, learn, love, laugh, sing, act and find joy in things.

    I will not look back with regrets because I was afraid to do all of the above.
    I second that, and hope the world could too. Sometimes we say very powerful things in so few words.
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    Life is unique in that it's very existence is it's only purpose.
    It is the dilemma of self-awareness that we feel compelled to assign it a 'purpose' or expend considerable effort in determining what we are 'supposed to do'.
    For many, just maintaining homeostasis will be challenge enough while others will be fortunate to have the luxury of many options.
    If we were to select a purpose, surely making the options of food, shelter and education available to our fellow beings would be a worthy example?
    Just my thoughts with morning coffee, a beverage which many enjoy and which many others toil to provide for our enjoyment.
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    scheherazade I think that life is what we make it.

    TO help others to me is important. TO do it for those I know, is very important. It is easy to say, "Well if they can't get the work, too bad." It is better to say, "I have a project that needs to be done. Are you interested."

    Never make the other human being feel as if they are charity. Make them feel as they are needed, and their abilities needed, even if you are "creating" work for them.
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    Many people live life with the belief that the really good times start once your dead. So I'd just like to let everyone know that since some of them have passed on, things improved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    Many people live life with the belief that the really good times start once your dead. So I'd just like to let everyone know that since some of them have passed on, things improved.
    *cough* and all too true *L* for some people!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenRatio View Post
    lol see. saying im "cold" for lack of better words, and yet you wish death on me. judge not less ye be judged.

    I use to care, now i truly dont anymore. Life is easier i assure you.
    Not caring makes you a zero on a contract. No benefit to anyone, not even yourself, even if you don't realise it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargate View Post
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    I have done my work..........I have achieved....I can now do what I want and work when I want.....I live a great life....and I AM GRATEFUL! I also intend to live it with all the gusto I can while I can.

    And I am still a flirt. Thank you, Jesus. I'm not dead yet!
    Babe, now you are confusing me, "thank you Jesus?" Does he live in your life, I mean the son of god?
    She was being grateful for her gardener (or lawyer, or architect, or whatever) .
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
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    I have done my work..........I have achieved....I can now do what I want and work when I want.....I live a great life....and I AM GRATEFUL! I also intend to live it with all the gusto I can while I can.

    And I am still a flirt. Thank you, Jesus. I'm not dead yet!
    Babe, now you are confusing me, "thank you Jesus?" Does he live in your life, I mean the son of god?
    She was being grateful for her gardener (or lawyer, or architect, or whatever) .
    Hey Kalster, how are you? hope all is well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    Many people live life with the belief that the really good times start once your dead. So I'd just like to let everyone know that since some of them have passed on, things improved.
    As they say better days are ahead, you just have to cross the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER View Post
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    I have done my work..........I have achieved....I can now do what I want and work when I want.....I live a great life....and I AM GRATEFUL! I also intend to live it with all the gusto I can while I can.

    And I am still a flirt. Thank you, Jesus. I'm not dead yet!
    Babe, now you are confusing me, "thank you Jesus?" Does he live in your life, I mean the son of god?
    She was being grateful for her gardener (or lawyer, or architect, or whatever) .
    Painter, golfing buddies, children, etc. *L*...but damn I do feel grateful for my gardeners and housekeepers at each location!


    THNKA YOU JESUS is an expression and does not reflect religious belief..
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    Why do you assume there is a universal point to life?
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