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  1. #1 "Bio-Cosmology" (life+physics+stars all peas in a 
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    Perhaps life… is matter of man-made symbolisms, and that all things are like so called organic matter…. Meaning that maybe atoms are like single cells that “reproduce in a strangely similar manner” And there is no duality to organic to the physical. It’s all physics and living things are like black holes, stars, galaxies… sort of beyond belief to exist by somehow... all weaves together!


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    Maybe what you say is true, but:
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    Perhaps life… is matter of man-made symbolisms,
    It is true that life forms with some degree of consciousness will classify objects, events and energies into categories; and these categories are somewhat artificial. However, I would argue strongly that most life is disitinctive from most non-life. Therefore life itself is considerably more than the merely symbolic.
    A separate argument would be that since symbolisms are self-evidently the product of life, they can hardly be the cause of its definition.
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    and that all things are like so called organic matter….
    Rather say that organic matter is very like, in many, but not all respects, inorganic matter. But that is not what you meant.
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    Meaning that maybe atoms are like single cells that “reproduce in a strangely similar manner”
    I don't believe we have ever observed, or postulated the reproduction of atoms. (I set aside the spontaneous generation of hydrogen atoms in an expanding Steady State Universe.)
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    And there is no duality to organic to the physical.
    I would have thought that most scientists would argue that the organic is undeniably physical, but that it also has emergent properties not to be found in the purely physical.
    In short, we do not suggest there is a duality, rather we suggest their is a complexity spectrum, with life being further along the axis than say a hydrogen atom.


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    Well, the movement pattern is slightly more advanced in a brain then in a shunk of matter. But not much, I would think. More advanced structure perhaps. Define complex. Heisenbergs relations makes most things complex.
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    What I am is that the natural world of known "physics" is chalk full of beyond complexities of breath taking impossibilities,

    think of merely how you can mix chemicals together produce a drop in temp that freezes a beaker to the point the glass gets somewhat unstable...

    and as well how a rubber belt of van de graph generator merely a rubber band between two pulleys can produce huge sparks and stir the whole "electric ether" of a huge room into motion so a whole manner of somewhat disturbing none-sense like fluorescent light bulbs flashing and draining way across the room from a very small machine.

    ....Those are rather simple small things, now look at, something bigger like how crystalline structures form and flow together, is life like a rare weird huge impossible to grasp freaky bazaar very rare event like so called "blackhole" in terms crystalline forming entities? meaning a bit "larger than life" but somehow real...... like a beaker that freezes really cold from mere chems, and van de graph generator?

    ..maybe life is "multi-dimensional" crystal forming structure, think of your ability to remember things?
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