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    When do we really die?


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    Quote Originally Posted by parag29081973 View Post
    When do we really die?
    Brain death - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    When I say so.
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    Speaking badly about people after they are gone and jumping on the bash the band wagon must do very well for a low self-esteem.
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    I think when the heart stops, and the major organs shut down and you kind of stop breathing, and where your brain goes....now that I don't think we really know.

    That has been my personal experience.

    Hospice might back me up on this one.

    However, in a different aspect. I believe some people who live have already died. I don't know quite how to explain that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
    However, in a different aspect. I believe some people who live have already died. I don't know quite how to explain that.
    No, it makes sense. My grandmother told me, "Some people aren't happy unless they're unhappy."
    Karl Pilkington is also known for saying absurdities that just make sense.

    Even so, a clinical definition of death is not necessarily "actual" death. Like many things in nature, the lines are a bit blurry.
    It's like a chicken.
    You have a modern chicken and you have a predecessor to the chicken and then there's something in between that you can't tell if it's the chicken, the predecessor or what they hell it is.
    With gradual change, nailing down the line is not easy. It can be so very subtle...
    With death, there is a bit of each. The sudden and the gradual (Well, we know how that goes) and once certain functions stop, the brain just fades out slowly. When it is that the brain is alive, fading out, not alive (Cells continuing to live after brain has stopped working) etc is just plain fuzzy.

    As I said... Whenever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
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    However, in a different aspect. I believe some people who live have already died. I don't know quite how to explain that.
    No, it makes sense. My grandmother told me, "Some people aren't happy unless they're unhappy."
    Karl Pilkington is also known for saying absurdities that just make sense.

    Even so, a clinical definition of death is not necessarily "actual" death. Like many things in nature, the lines are a bit blurry.
    It's like a chicken.
    You have a modern chicken and you have a predecessor to the chicken and then there's something in between that you can't tell if it's the chicken, the predecessor or what they hell it is.
    With gradual change, nailing down the line is not easy. It can be so very subtle...
    With death, there is a bit of each. The sudden and the gradual (Well, we know how that goes) and once certain functions stop, the brain just fades out slowly. When it is that the brain is alive, fading out, not alive (Cells continuing to live after brain has stopped working) etc is just plain fuzzy.

    As I said... Whenever.
    Mahalo!! You understood!!

    So much we do not know about the brain after the rest of the major organs fail....because it doesn't quite continue.

    Your grandmother was WISE!!!!!!

    As for the chickens....

    I have to chuckle about this....sorry....you may desimate me.....I shall deserve it.

    well now in days....you go to buy a chicken (daughter works and lives in Zurich so I even had a better persepective).....it is almost a freaking turkey!..they are like 7 pounds.......I have stopped buying chickens and buy little cornish game hens.....when getting her settled two years ago in Zurich we went to buy a chicken.....it is like 3 pounds max there.....and that is a big one....and all organic, to boot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by javedansari View Post
    When ur's breath stops....
    they can resucitate you (sp) when you stop breathing

    but when your heart stops and your organs fail....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    It's like a chicken.
    Death is like a chicken. That may be the most useful insight to have appeared on this forum. You could start a religion based on that and make a fortune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    It's like a chicken.
    Death is like a chicken. That may be the most useful insight to have appeared on this forum. You could start a religion based on that and make a fortune.
    Only if you know how to cook the dead bird.....cause you don't bake a human after they die!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    You could start a religion based on that and make a fortune.
    I've thought about that many times- always followed up with the question of how many ministers are actually secret atheists out to make a buck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parag29081973 View Post
    When do we really die?
    Next Tuesday.
    Bwahaha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by parag29081973 View Post
    When do we really die?
    Next Tuesday.
    Bwahaha!
    I've been reading an old book by Isaac Asimov, called "Nine Tomorrows." I'm starting #8 and beginning to worry about running out of tomorrows.
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    Quick! Run and buy a copy of Zelazny.
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    We die whenever we lose our mind or whenever we become invalid, even when we supposedly survive. There are many ways to die even though we may seem to be alive.
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    Oh boy...
    No.
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    The old saying, "The mind is the first to go." Well I don't think that is always applicable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponias View Post
    [FONT=Verdana]We die whenever we lose our mind or whenever we become invalid, even when we supposedly survive.
    So we should rename the Paralympics the "Zombie Olympics"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    [FONT=Verdana]We die whenever we lose our mind or whenever we become invalid, even when we supposedly survive.
    So we should rename the Paralympics the "Zombie Olympics"?
    THE IFORGETITSTHEOLYMPICS might work
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    Well I have noticed that we have a lot of dead men walking around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sampson View Post
    Well I have noticed that we have a lot of dead men walking around here.
    checking vitals.....*S* quite alive and femaile.
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    They say every curiosity should ultimately result in knowing yourself. We survive in the form of four elements before birth and after death. Or are we remembered for something or the other reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parag29081973 View Post
    They say every curiosity should ultimately result in knowing yourself.
    Who does?

    We survive in the form of four elements before birth and after death.
    Sort of. Except that there are, currently, 118 known elements, not 4.
    And it's a pretty poor definition of "survival" since, as far as we can ascertain, we don't actually survive.

    Or are we remembered for something or the other reason.
    For a while at least.
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    It is said that the brave die once whereas the coward dies many times
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    I told my family that when I bite the dirt (or sand as it may be) that they have a party......remember me.....and then take me (ashes) to three places.....and nothing else. No one will know who I was in 50 years +- nor remotely care.
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    It is written in the every one fate, when our time come no one can save us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydonc View Post
    It is written in the every one fate, when our time come no one can save us.
    Please provide evidence that "fate" exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydonc View Post
    It is written in the every one fate, when our time come no one can save us.
    Can you tell us where it is written?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    It is written in the every one fate, when our time come no one can save us.
    Can you tell us where it is written?
    In muh lil' black book. That's where.
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    Both my mom and mother in law had burst aneurysms. They were dead when they hit the floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
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    It is written in the every one fate, when our time come no one can save us.
    Can you tell us where it is written?
    In muh lil' black book. That's where.
    *cough* I have a little PINK BOOK, buddy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sculptor View Post
    Both my mom and mother in law had burst aneurysms. They were dead when they hit the floor.
    What a great thing. Not being facetious....just honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
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    Both my mom and mother in law had burst aneurysms. They were dead when they hit the floor.
    What a great thing. Not being facetious....just honest.
    I dunno. There is something to say for being able to plan out your affairs ahead of time.

    I mean, imagine having that kind of aneurysm right after pulling up a load of Midget Porn on your computer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
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    Both my mom and mother in law had burst aneurysms. They were dead when they hit the floor.
    What a great thing. Not being facetious....just honest.
    I dunno. There is something to say for being able to plan out your affairs ahead of time.

    I mean, imagine having that kind of aneurysm right after pulling up a load of Midget Porn on your computer...
    At your memorial it would be written......"He died in the throes of extacy with sticky fingers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parag29081973 View Post
    When do we really die?
    Whenever your body failed to work in proper way or we can say that when god wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydonc View Post
    Whenever your body failed to work in proper way
    Hmm, not-quite-hitting your mouth with a cup of coffee means you're dead?

    or we can say that when god wants.
    Or we could say you're making ridiculous claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydonc View Post
    Whenever your body failed to work in proper way or we can say that when god wants.
    So far you have given three wrong answers. How many more have you got?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydonc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by parag29081973 View Post
    When do we really die?
    Whenever your body failed to work in proper way or we can say that when god wants.
    Don't believe in god...so that outs me on this .
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