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    What's the meaning of philosophy? Paul




    Is wisdom used both for good and evil purposes? To learn is one principle too share another. To me good is a moral good of the application of knowledge, it has a value and purpose with truth. But knowledge used for evil has no purpose or value. It would seem the knowledge of evil is a good thing within itself to understand it exists.
    If we did not have the wisdom to understand an evil ,then how can one be judged for braking the law? Is it ignorance or defiance of the truth called law, that people refuse to acknowledge and why? Hand held over a burning fire creates pain and truth. Why does the person do the evil, then deny the truth out of ignorance or plain defiance of the truth? Paul


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    Abstracts. There are no absolutes. What you consider good- such as saving a persons life from a deadly Ebola virus, would be genocide and very evil from the perspective of the virus.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Is wisdom used both for good and evil purposes?

    Define "wisdom".

    To learn is one principle too share another.
    Huh?

    To me good is a moral good of the application of knowledge
    Define "moral".

    it has a value and purpose with truth
    What "truth"?

    But knowledge used for evil has no purpose or value.
    Yet it clearly does: not least the advancement of the perpetrator's aims.

    If we did not have the wisdom to understand an evil ,then how can one be judged for braking the law?
    Um, what does law have to do with good and evil?

    Is it ignorance or defiance of the truth called law
    Which law is the truth?

    Why does the person do the evil, then deny the truth out of ignorance or plain defiance of the truth? Paul
    What truth?
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    Wisdom is when you know, the more you know, the "wiser" you become.. More like self-awareness of your surrounding and implying what you know. One might argue that wisdom might be defined as "moral knowledge" though it might be correct, I'd say moral knowledge doesn't play a big part of being wise though it's important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hassnhadi View Post
    Wisdom is when you know, the more you know, the "wiser" you become.
    So knowledge = wisdom?

    One might argue that wisdom might be defined as "moral knowledge"
    Then one would have to define "moral".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Is wisdom used both for good and evil purposes?

    Define "wisdom". Wisdom is to apply knowledge.

    To learn is one principle too share another.
    Huh? To learn and share.

    To me good is a moral good of the application of knowledge/quote]
    Define "moral". Rules,standards applications.

    [quote has a value and purpose with truth/quote]
    What "truth"? Opposite of a lie.

    But knowledge used for evil has no purpose or value.
    Yet it clearly does: not least the advancement of the perpetrator's aims.

    [quote we did not have the wisdom to understand an evil ,then how can one be judged for braking the law?
    Um, what does law have to do with good and evil? Without law how can one judge evil?

    Is it ignorance or defiance of the truth called law
    Which law is the truth? The one the person broke.

    Why does the person do the evil, then deny the truth out of ignorance or plain defiance of the truth? Paul

    What truth?
    What ever truth they believed in at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Wisdom is to apply knowledge.

    Then everyone has wisdom.
    My cat has the knowledge of how to wash its paws. And frequently applies that knowledge. Therefore my cat is wise.

    To learn and share.
    Learn and share what?

    Rules,standards applications.
    Too vague. Whose rules?

    Opposite of a lie.
    Remember this one...

    Without law how can one judge evil?
    Law does not judge evil. It judges lawbreakers.

    The one the person broke.
    You said the "truth called law". Are you claiming that ALL laws are "truth"?

    What ever truth they believed in at the time.
    Remembered that previous comment? Good.
    You tacitly admit here that "truth" varies/ alters. How, then, can it be "truth"? How, then, can "truth be the opposite of lie" IF what is true (and therefore what is false) varies with time/ location/ whatever? That would make "truth" and "lies" somewhat arbitrary wouldn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Wisdom is to apply knowledge.

    Then everyone has wisdom.
    My cat has the knowledge of how to wash its paws. And frequently applies that knowledge. Therefore my cat is wise.
    Animals like humans learn from observation and experiences.

    To learn and share.
    Learn and share what? Knowledge and experience

    Rules,standards applications.
    Too vague. Whose rules?
    The rule of law, good vs bad.

    Opposite of a lie.
    Remember this one...
    Why?

    Without law how can one judge evil?
    Law does not judge evil. It judges lawbreakers. I see a problem with sematics here?

    The one the person broke.
    You said the "truth called law". Are you claiming that ALL laws are "truth"? No. Just the ones that can be proven without doubt.

    What ever truth they believed in at the time.
    Remembered that previous comment? Good.
    You tacitly admit here that "truth" varies/ alters. How, then, can it be "truth"? How, then, can "truth be the opposite of lie" IF what is true (and therefore what is false) varies with time/ location/ whatever? That would make "truth" and "lies" somewhat arbitrary wouldn't it?
    I see the sun and call it truth. You are blind and say I feel the heat you call sun. Could both of these words describe truth? Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Animals like humans learn from observation and experiences.

    So you agree that my cat is wise.

    Knowledge and experience
    Okay. Why?

    The rule of law, good vs bad.
    You really aren't doing very well.
    American laws? British laws? Mongolian laws?
    And, one more time, law isn't about "good and bad" - it's about "legal and illegal".

    It judges lawbreakers. I see a problem with sematics here?
    No, the problem is with definitions.
    Evil (definition pending) may not be illegal. Good (definition pending) may be illegal.

    No. Just the ones that can be proven without doubt.
    Ah, now we're getting somewhere.
    Examples please.

    I see the sun and call it truth. You are blind and say I feel the heat you call sun. Could both of these words describe truth? Paul
    There are truths, yes, but you're (not very neatly) avoiding your own words - believed in at the time.
    Those "truths", if they alter, would not be truths. Got it yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Wisdom is when you know, the more you know, the "wiser" you become.
    So knowledge = wisdom?

    One might argue that wisdom might be defined as "moral knowledge"
    Then one would have to define "moral".
    Well you really can't say it's 100% equal to knowledge, but the more knowledge you acquire from your surrounding the more wisdom you MIGHT acquire as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Then one would have to define "moral".
    You may define morality as a form of self-awareness based on principles, values, bases, used to guide you throughout your life.. So Moral knowledge would be when you know what's right and what's wrong..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hassnhadi View Post
    Well you really can't say it's 100% equal to knowledge, but the more knowledge you acquire from your surrounding the more wisdom you MIGHT acquire as well.
    Hmm, okay. But still no definition.

    You may define morality as a form of self-awareness based on principles, values, bases, used to guide you throughout your life.. So Moral knowledge would be when you know what's right and what's wrong..
    Too circular and vague.
    "Right from wrong"? In what context? In which location/ time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Animals like humans learn from observation and experiences.

    So you agree that my cat is wise.

    Knowledge and experience
    Okay. Why?
    No, the cat learned by observation and experience. That's the cats [personal knowledge not humans.

    The rule of law, good vs bad.
    You really aren't doing very well.
    American laws? British laws? Mongolian laws?
    Whatever the law of the lands at that time.
    And, one more time, law isn't about "good and bad" - it's about "legal and illegal".
    Do words have synonyms? Does legal and illegal as well?



    [quote judges lawbreakers. I see a problem with semantics here?

    No, the problem is with definitions.
    Evil (definition pending) may not be illegal. Good (definition pending) may be illegal.
    Evil the opposite of good/good the opposite of evil.

    No. Just the ones that can be proven without doubt.
    Ah, now we're getting somewhere.
    Examples please.

    I see the sun and call it truth. You are blind and say I feel the heat you call the sun. Could both of these words describe truth? Paul
    There are truths, yes, but you're (not very neatly) avoiding your own words - believed in at the time.
    Those "truths", if they alter, would not be truths. Got it yet?[/QUOTE]
    There is only (one), truth believed more than one way. There are lies as well, falsly believed many ways as well, believed in at that time until proven wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Okay. Why?No, the cat learned by observation and experience. That's the cats [personal knowledge not humans.

    Ah, soonly humans can be wise?

    Do words have synonyms? Does legal and illegal as well?

    What is your point here?
    Legal and illegal are not synonymous with good and evil.

    Evil the opposite of good/good the opposite of evil.

    In other words evil is up and good is down (they're opposites). Wait, maybe you mean moving and stationary? Or hot and cold?

    Quote Originally Posted by Me
    Examples please.
    So no examples?

    There is only (one), truth believed more than one way.
    Is there?
    What is that?

    There are lies as well, falsly believed many ways as well, believed in at that time until proven wrong.
    Let me get this straight.
    Me: What truth?
    You: What ever truth they believed in at the time.

    And NOW you're claiming that that truth wasn't (or may not have been) a truth?
    Yet what prompted my question was "Why does the person do the evil, then deny the truth out of ignorance or plain defiance of the truth?".
    So, essentially, what you're saying here is that someone does evil (yet to be defined but possibly it's the same as "alive") and then deny it in defiance of something that may or may not have been a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Well you really can't say it's 100% equal to knowledge, but the more knowledge you acquire from your surrounding the more wisdom you MIGHT acquire as well.
    Hmm, okay. But still no definition.

    You may define morality as a form of self-awareness based on principles, values, bases, used to guide you throughout your life.. So Moral knowledge would be when you know what's right and what's wrong..
    Too circular and vague.
    "Right from wrong"? In what context? In which location/ time?
    Life context, I guess lol.. I'm not really good at describing.. :\

    From what I've seen.. I guess it varies depending on the principles, values and such known at that time.. What's acceptable and what's not by humans at a given time can shape what morality means to those humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hassnhadi View Post
    From what I've seen.. I guess it varies depends on the principles, values and such known at that time.. What's acceptable and what's not by humans at a given time can shape what morality means to those humans.
    Excellent answer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Okay. Why?No, the cat learned by observation and experience. That's the cats [personal knowledge not humans.

    Ah, soonly humans can be wise?

    Do words have synonyms? Does legal and illegal as well?

    What is your point here?
    Legal and illegal are not synonymous with good and evil.

    Evil the opposite of good/good the opposite of evil.

    In other words evil is up and good is down (they're opposites). Wait, maybe you mean moving and stationary? Or hot and cold?

    Quote Originally Posted by Me
    Examples please.
    So no examples?

    There is only (one), truth believed more than one way.
    Is there?
    What is that?

    There are lies as well, falsly believed many ways as well, believed in at that time until proven wrong.
    Let me get this straight.
    Me: What truth?
    You: What ever truth they believed in at the time.

    And NOW you're claiming that that truth wasn't (or may not have been) a truth?
    Yet what prompted my question was "Why does the person do the evil, then deny the truth out of ignorance or plain defiance of the truth?".
    So, essentially, what you're saying here is that someone does evil (yet to be defined but possibly it's the same as "alive") and then deny it in defiance of something that may or may not have been a lie.
    I think you,ve got it. Paul
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    Got what?
    You've demonstrated nothing, defined nothing, and contradicted yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hassnhadi View Post
    From what I've seen.. I guess it varies depends on the principles, values and such known at that time.. What's acceptable and what's not by humans at a given time can shape what morality means to those humans.
    Excellent answer!
    Not sure if sarcastic or serious... I need to get a life lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hassnhadi View Post
    Not sure if sarcastic or serious... I need to get a life lol
    No, entirely serious.
    Some people refuse absolutely to arrive at that conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Not sure if sarcastic or serious... I need to get a life lol
    No, entirely serious.
    Some people refuse absolutely to arrive at that conclusion.
    :')
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    Are all of you linguist? Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Are all of you linguist? Paul
    I'm not if you mean "specialist in linguistics" but I am if you mean "polyglot".
    And I'd say Hassnhadi speaks at least 3 languages too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Are all of you linguist? Paul
    I'm not if you mean "specialist in linguistics" but I am if you mean "polyglot".
    And I'd say Hassnhadi speaks at least 3 languages too.
    No a linguist is a person who interprets what one writes. They scare me. I never knew why one should interpret anything, but a foreign language. "The cat sat on the mat" comes to mean something else, if you are a linguist. I was on a linguist site and got bawled out, because they could not understand what I meant. People percieve differently because of there education from many teachers and places aroung the world like philosophy. I swear I see and know what the words mean I use but seems others don't. Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Are all of you linguist? Paul
    I'm not if you mean "specialist in linguistics" but I am if you mean "polyglot". And I'd say Hassnhadi speaks at least 3 languages too.
    Lol kind of; Arabic and English are the languages I'm fluent in the most; then Kurdish with some basics and I know curse words in Spanish lol, so yea 3.5 I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    No a linguist is a person who interprets what one writes.
    A linguist is just someone who studies language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    I swear I see and know what the words mean I use

    Actually, the majority of this thread is an indication that you don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    I swear I see and know what the words mean I use
    Actually, the majority of this thread is an indication that you don't.
    Do you believe in synonyms? I have a reading and writing disibility. Excuse me but are you perfect? Do you like to be chided? Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Do you believe in synonyms?
    I don't have believe in them: they exist.

    Excuse me but are you perfect?
    Very nearly.

    Do you like to be chided? Paul
    Depends.

    Do you dispute my statement?
    If so, on what grounds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Do you believe in synonyms?
    I don't have believe in them: they exist.

    Excuse me but are you perfect?
    Very nearly.

    Do you like to be chided? Paul
    Depends.

    Do you dispute my statement?
    If so, on what grounds?
    I didn't join to start an argumen,t but to learn. If you have a problem with me, tell the adminstrator and I will sign off. My question was a question directed toward a opinion. Paul
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    I have no problem with you per se, but you express yourself poorly (which is a major fault in someone who claims his interests include philosophy).
    Example: your response "My question was a question directed toward a opinion" doesn't seem to address anything I wrote in the post you quoted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    I have no problem with you per se, but you express yourself poorly (which is a major fault in someone who claims his interests include philosophy).
    Example: your response "My question was a question directed toward a opinion" doesn't seem to address anything I wrote in the post you quoted.
    Philosophy has meaning meanings to many people. What do you think a retarded person would think about normal people if they couldn't understood normal from their perspective? How many meanings does philosophy mean to you? I just used one, wisdom. Do we all understand the same way? Answer me this, spoken is it Houseton or Houston, it's in the pronunciation. Have you ever seen the rubics cube? People see it to. To me it's all interpretation! Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Philosophy has meaning meanings to many people.

    Then they aren't actually practising philosophy. The word has a definite definition. And that definition leads to a particular discipline - one which has rules.

    How many meanings does philosophy mean to you? I just used one, wisdom.
    Except that A) philosophy does NOT mean wisdom and B) you have failed to define wisdom.

    Do we all understand the same way?... To me it's all interpretation!
    Oh wait. NOW you say this? Despite your previous claim that "I swear I see and know what the words mean I use but seems others don't".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    Philosophy has meaning meanings to many people.
    Then they aren't actually practising philosophy. The word has a definite definition. And that definition leads to a particular discipline - one which has rules.

    How many meanings does philosophy mean to you? I just used one, wisdom.
    Except that A) philosophy does NOT mean wisdom and B) you have failed to define wisdom.
    Then what do you believe philosophy means to you,the definition or your definition?

    This you ask for in your last post to me about Neurons. Neuroscience to physics - Athenes theory of everything

    [quote we all understand the same way?... To me it's all interpretation!
    Oh wait. NOW you say this? Despite your previous claim that "I swear I see and know what the words mean I use but seems others don't".[/QUOTE]
    Ok whats your definition of philosophy?
    Also heres the neuron story you ask for.
    http://psychology-forum.com/neurosci...ything/inition of philosophy? ppljames
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    Philosophy has meaning meanings to many people.
    Then they aren't actually practising philosophy. The word has a definite definition. And that definition leads to a particular discipline - one which has rules.

    How many meanings does philosophy mean to you? I just used one, wisdom.
    Except that A) philosophy does NOT mean wisdom and B) you have failed to define wisdom.
    Then what do you believe philosophy means to you,the definition or your definition?

    This you ask for in your last post to me about Neurons. Neuroscience to physics - Athenes theory of everything

    [quote we all understand the same way?... To me it's all interpretation!
    Oh wait. NOW you say this? Despite your previous claim that "I swear I see and know what the words mean I use but seems others don't".
    Ok whats your definition of philosophy?
    Also heres the neuron story you ask for.
    http://psychology-forum.com/neurosci...ything/inition of philosophy? ppljames[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    This you ask for in your last post to me about Neurons. Neuroscience to physics - Athenes theory of everything
    Also heres the neuron story you ask for.
    http://psychology-forum.com/neurosci...ything/inition of philosophy? ppljames
    A 50 minute long video?
    One that is neither "peer reviewed and neither scientifically or philosophically rigorous"?
    Watching anyway...
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    Okay... I'm half way through.
    No mention of neurons having anything spiritual about them (maybe you're referring to this, or this).
    The video itself isn't what you'd call scientifically reliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Okay... I'm half way through.
    No mention of neurons having anything spiritual about them (maybe you're referring to this, or this).
    The video itself isn't what you'd call scientifically reliable.
    It would be that "your interpretation and mine are to far apart. I reread the meaning of Philosophy and the words lover of wisdom were in it. Obviously I do have a serious reading and writing problem. I wont bother you again. If this persists I will sign off. pljames
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    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    It would be that "your interpretation and mine are to far apart. I reread the meaning of Philosophy and the words lover of wisdom were in it. Obviously I do have a serious reading and writing problem. I wont bother you again. If this persists I will sign off. pljames
    Except that I didn't "interpret";
    Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language.
    As for "love of wisdom"...
    The word "philosophy" comes from the Ancient Greek φιλοσοφία (philosophia), which literally means "love of wisdom".
    That's the very literal meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    It would be that "your interpretation and mine are to far apart. I reread the meaning of Philosophy and the words lover of wisdom were in it. Obviously I do have a serious reading and writing problem. I wont bother you again. If this persists I will sign off. pljames
    Except that I didn't "interpret";
    Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language.
    As for "love of wisdom"...
    The word "philosophy" comes from the Ancient Greek φιλοσοφία (philosophy), which literally means "love of wisdom".
    That's the very literal meaning.
    Isn 't wisdom, (knowledge,reality,existence,values reason mind and langauge)? Are these word literal meanings as well? Again interpretation of. Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by pljames View Post
    Isn 't wisdom, (knowledge,reality,existence,values reason mind and langauge)? Are these word literal meanings as well? Again interpretation of. Paul
    Have you not already defined wisdom as the application of knowledge?
    How much knowledge (of anything) do you have to have before you can apply it?
    Can one ignore language and still show wisdom in the application of, say, medicine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    The word "philosophy" comes from the Ancient Greek φιλοσοφία (philosophia), which literally means "love of wisdom".
    That's the very literal meaning.
    Actually, no. That is the etymological fallacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    The word "philosophy" comes from the Ancient Greek φιλοσοφία (philosophia), which literally means "love of wisdom".
    That's the very literal meaning.
    Actually, no. That is the etymological fallacy.
    Huh?
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    Etymological fallacy: Assuming or arguing that a word does (or should) mean something because that is what the word used to mean or what its morphemes (component parts) mean.

    Philosophy doesn't mean "love of knowledge" literally or otherwise; it means <all that stuff you said earlier>.
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    WISDOM is the thing earned by living and experiencing and gaining knowledge and there is no knowledge for good porpouse or for evil porpouse knowledge is knowledge.good or evil depends on the person who uses it .like a knife can be used to cut fruits or throats is knife evil? no it is the man who is using it is evil.people should get not only metirialistic knowledge they should get philosophical and moral knowledge to guide them in good path using knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
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    It would be that "your interpretation and mine are to far apart. I reread the meaning of Philosophy and the words lover of wisdom were in it. Obviously I do have a serious reading and writing problem. I wont bother you again. If this persists I will sign off. pljames
    Except that I didn't "interpret";
    Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language.
    As for "love of wisdom"...
    The word "philosophy" comes from the Ancient Greek φιλοσοφία (Philosophia), which literally means "love of wisdom".
    That's the very literal meaning.
    Did Socrates use one lesson for all the phrases,general and fundamental problems as reality,existence,knowledge,values,reason, mind and language or one lesson for each lesson? Please define when the word literal was created and why? Then the word interpret and why? Where is it written the writer (has) to interpret instead of edit? And is the first sentence of my post literal or interpreted and why? Paul
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    Huh?
    You clearly stated that you made an interpretation of what philosophy means - by using the etymology 1.
    I simply pointed that I used the definition.
    And Strange noted that the literal meaning is NOT the definition.


    1 Would you argue that Hippocampus is actually a horse? Or that it's a genuinely a monster? Because that's what the literal translation means.
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    What is wisdom?
    Able to definitively answer that question
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    The wise man shall follow a star to seek knowledge, the man who pursues only knowledge , can have no wisdom...
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    WISDOM: the understanding and acceptance that women with very blue hair know EVERYTHING. Anything the blue haired woman says or does that indicates a lack of knowledge on a topic is clearly intentional on part of the blue haired lady. She is merely giving you the opportunity to think deeper into a subject so that what you are correct about, you can feel more confident in sharing. Be thankful to the all knowing blue haired lady that is kind enough to feign ignorance for the greater good.
    Speaking badly about people after they are gone and jumping on the bash the band wagon must do very well for a low self-esteem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    WISDOM: the understanding and acceptance that women with very blue hair know EVERYTHING. Anything the blue haired woman says or does that indicates a lack of knowledge on a topic is clearly intentional on part of the blue haired lady. She is merely giving you the opportunity to think deeper into a subject so that what you are correct about, you can feel more confident in sharing. Be thankful to the all knowing blue haired lady that is kind enough to feign ignorance for the greater good.
    You need to support this claim with evidence and peer reviewed citations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    WISDOM: the understanding and acceptance that women with very blue hair know EVERYTHING. Anything the blue haired woman says or does that indicates a lack of knowledge on a topic is clearly intentional on part of the blue haired lady. She is merely giving you the opportunity to think deeper into a subject so that what you are correct about, you can feel more confident in sharing. Be thankful to the all knowing blue haired lady that is kind enough to feign ignorance for the greater good.
    You need to support this claim with evidence and peer reviewed citations.
    I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you please elaborate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    Anything the blue haired woman says or does that indicates a lack of knowledge on a topic is clearly intentional on part of the blue haired lady. She is merely giving you the opportunity to think deeper into a subject so that what you are correct about, you can feel more confident in sharing.
    I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you please elaborate?
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    Not completely unrelated:

    "Only a fool will deny its own ignorance"
    In the information age ignorance is a choice.
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