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    Started thinking about this today. So many fabulous monuments and edifices signifying man's emergence as an intelligence, but do they (and us) actually have any significance on a universal scale? All the great minds, fabulous discoveries and the wonders of life mean nothing if we can't at least share it.

    I think we are all aware of our position, a mote of dust on a speck of dust in an infinitely dusty universe. We are so insignificant on a universal scale it isn't funny. As far as I can tell there is only one thing that can change that..... SCIENCE. It can accomplish this by supplying the technology that enables interstellar travel or proves life on alien worlds exist or existed. If science cannot accomplish this then we are destined to be simply a chunk of rock adrift in the cosmos until some natural calamity claims us. Our disappearance will amount to next to nothing in a vast universe, unless of course some other space intelligence gets wind of us, even after we're gone.

    For me it's all about the discovery of life (or evidence of life) elsewhere in the cosmos. Although I admit that if we never find life in our travels then we can still elevate our significance by promoting and developing life as we know it throughout other planetary systems. Our universal significance is dependent upon science


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    For zinjanthropos. Do you mean to say thropo that even I . westwind, has no significance in the Scheme of Things? Surely I have explained our situation to you before? You've heard that expression, "chip off the old Block"., well, that's just what we are. A chip off the old Block.
    Micheal Angelo left chips of Marble strewn on the floor beneath his feet while he carved out his magnifecent David.

    Where God carved Eden out of all the Space Matter in existance at that time, and that was in one great round Mass, his leftover ideas, his failed creations, his ajustments and rezising, his reducing in volumn and mass, his final designs and final experiements, then that left what we see about us now. What we call the Cosmos. Or what we call the Universe. And all the bits and pieces of Cosmoses and Universesthat extend, scatterednow, away from the perfect Eden where God has his Throne.

    Once you realise this, once you have grasp it, it all makes sense.

    We are just a small chip of marble from the creators chisel.

    I do not belong to any religious movement. I am a loner. Iapplied Scientific Principles to arrive at the most logical reason why we should be here at all. What I have explained above answers all other questions that can be presented by any inquiring mind.

    It's just up to us to find some other remnant from gods chisel that has Life on it. westwind.


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    Yes westwind, unfortunately you are as insignificant as all of us on a universal scale.

    As I said, I just started thinking about this yesterday. I'm realizing it might be more complicated than I thought . Right now I'm trying to decide whether we'll remain insignificant as long as we have no affect on the universe or we'll remain insignificant as long as the universe doesn't acknowledge our existence. We can influence a planet but can we take it a few steps further? In what ways can we be important to the universe?

    It's a hard pill to swallow knowing that we virtually have no affect on the universe. Maybe we can accidentally seed a few planets with microbes or create a black hole in the lab just to make things interesting.
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    I contemplate exactly what you have put forth in your opening post whenever anyone gets on their soapbox in regard to what a magnificent species we are, how mighty our technology and accomplishments.

    What precisely are we so excellent at besides exploiting each other to the benefit of some and the detriment of most?

    We declare war on each other and on any other species that stands between ourselves and our desires.

    We are fouling our own nest in the pursuit of what, may I ask? The only habitable piece of real estate within our puny reach and we just rape, pillage and plunder the place, then wipe our boots and move on to some of the little remaining unspoiled wilderness.

    Those who would teach sustainable development are labeled 'tree-huggers', an obstacle to intelligent progress.

    Then along comes a volcano in Iceland or a hurricane named Isaac and we are grounded or flicked aside like any insect.

    Yes. On the grand scale we are less than insignificant and I sincerely hope it remains thusly until we learn some humility and appreciation for this gift called 'life'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    Yes. On the grand scale we are less than insignificant.
    Seems as if significance is relative and size matters. Funny how we signify our taste with a LIKE button in the Insignificance thread.

    What it comes down to is that we need to know if we (Earth's living organisms) are alone in the universe. Until then we can assume that we are the only life. This carries massive significance and humans exploit it to a ridiculous degree. We have intelligence, we have dominion, whoopee! False significance makes unworthy status.
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    Yes. On the grand scale we are less than insignificant.
    Seems as if significance is relative and size matters. Funny how we signify our taste with a LIKE button in the Insignificance thread.
    Rather ironic in some respects and yet totally logical in others. We have a tendency to 'like' that which has relevance or significance to our own understanding and perspective.

    What it comes down to is that we need to know if we (Earth's living organisms) are alone in the universe. Until then we can assume that we are the only life. This carries massive significance and humans exploit it to a ridiculous degree. We have intelligence, we have dominion, whoopee! False significance makes unworthy status.
    While we have a great curiosity about whether or not intelligent live exists elsewhere in the universe, I rather expect we would be dreadfully apprehensive if another life form appeared on our doorstep. Their technology would be far superior to ours if they have come from afar and we would be concerned as to their intent, based solely on our experience of this world, where every species demonstrably has to develop and maintain a coping strategy to ensure continued tenure.

    To think that we are alone in the universe is an overwhelming consideration.

    The alternative might prove equally terrifying, I have often considered.

    If life has evolved on this planet, it does seem mathematically inconceivable that it would not be capable of doing so on another planet given the same elements and similar parameters. Until we can demonstrate stewardship of this planet, it seems most arrogant to assume that our presence would be welcomed elsewhere. Then again, if history demonstrates anything, it reveals us to be an arrogant and war-like species.

    Were I an intelligent being from another planet, I would give this place a wide berth for the foreseeable future.
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    I can certainly sympathize with your feelings of insignificance, but can't really say that the existence of space aliens would change things all that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    I can certainly sympathize with your feelings of insignificance, but can't really say that the existence of space aliens would change things all that much.
    On the numerical scale, it would double the number of 'intelligent' species in the universe. If the price of food or gas doubled, we would consider that significant, yet I concede the point that one raindrop or two makes no significantly measurable difference to the depth of the ocean.

    The term 'alien' has some interesting connotations, not all of them positive. I have also wondered if somewhere in a dusty vault, the more advanced nations of this planet have a draft protocol for how they would handle such an encounter, as remote as such a possibility might seem?

    alien noun (Concise Encyclopedia)


    In law, one who resides in a country without becoming naturalized, retaining instead the citizenship of another country. The laws of most nations have long afforded aliens certain minimum standards of civilized treatment but have also restricted their employment and ownership of property. Under U.S. law, all aliens have had to register since 1940. Registration cards (“green cards”) entitle them to obtain employment. Like citizens, aliens are protected by the U.S. Constitution, including the Bill of Rights and the due-process clause of the 14th Amendment. They remain subject to limitations under local laws, and residence in the U.S. is not a right but a privilege granted by Congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    On the numerical scale, it would double the number of 'intelligent' species in the universe.
    If that means something to you - great.

    The term 'alien' has some interesting connotations, not all of them positive.
    Call them whatever you want. If they exist, I doubt we'd ever find out about it, and if they did, so what.
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    I agree that we need to expand into space and colonize the solar system, have biodomes on the Moon and Mars. We are the custodians of knowledge and inheritors of capabilities in our neck of the woods, its up to us to spread life and sentience and complex patterns of molecules and information beyond the frontier of earths gravity.

    Though I think our significance may be too brief if we dont spread out, I do not think that the vastness of space makes us insignificant, almost on the contrary, you may look and look, at empty space, inert moons and asteroids, you will find very little diversity, very little complex patterns, more of the same, lifeless asteroid after lifeless assteroid, but here, molecules have ignited a reaction, life that has multiplied and diversified, getting increasingly more complex over millions of years. Mergers and symbiotic fusion, colonies of unicellular organisms and diversified colonies and multi-cellular organisms. These creatures have evolved sensory mechanisms, to detect what was in their immediate environment, detection and perception being the first seeds of consciousness. Signal patterns have structured cells in a way that allows a meta-organism (animal) to recognize its surroundings, conceptualize objects, mimicking patterns that formed a mental representation of reality we call vision for example, then conceptualized other objects so that when an object was hidden from view by a rock, the metaorganism still had the notion of exactly what is was that existed but cound no longer be observed (a prey behind a rock, a predator behind bushes), then over time more intelligent creatures evolved better intelligence, the ability to communicate more complex ideas, the ability to ask why? The curiosity to inquire about something we know that we didnt know, something that doesnt fit, a phenomenon we have yet to discover that explain something usunual. Humans have developed language and culture, stories, songs, representaion of nature in paintings, and new rearrangements that did not exist, new molecular arrangements and complex coherent patterns of molecules, sound and light patterns, that do not exist anywhere else in our solar system from the interplanetary expanses with little more than solar winds and rudimentary particles, to moons and asteroids and chunks of ice to pebbles with rudimentary molecular patterns, the Earth and human cultures art and litterature, represent a treasure of rich molecular patterns and of information/data the likes of which that might not exists in vast stretches of our galaxy. Not only do have a curiosity, but a desire to create, that is, rearrange existing molecules into new patterns, from red earth to finger paint the shape of a buffalo on the side of a cave, to a monet painting, a Michelangelo sculpture, an epic story from Odysseus to Victor Hugo's Les Misérables, from a microscope to a computer game, from the Movie Casablanca to a self-replicating 3D printer, a Mars rover to an underwater camera, we inquire and we create, we rearrange molecules in ways that cant be found anywhere else in our solar system an in most places in the universe (specially in the expanses between galaxies, you're not likely to find a Monet painting drifting about between two galaxies!).

    For gold is nothing special, its just atoms that are not rare nor organized in any complex pattern, tons of it are in the earths core, tons more exist through the solar system in asteroids and moons, and in other nearby solar systems, but culture, art, stories, technology, sentient life capable of sending objects beyond, that is vastly more rare than gold, if we take a step back, we realise, from my perspective anyway, that we are not insignificant. If all our atoms we just part of an inert asteroid 4 light years away drifitng around, non sentient and condemned never to combine in complex patterns, then we would be insignificant, if earth was lifeless and we were rocks, then we would be insignificant, if we were bacterias on an ooze and mud planet, we would be somewhat signigficant, (at least life is something), but we are humans, able to observe and predict movements of planets, able to create patterns of colors, patterns of sounds, rearrange molecules in ways that create new functions(objects/technology), imo, we are very significant and a rare wealth of information/ and rich molecular patterns.

    We can remain humbled by he vastness of space, but we should not underestimate the very rare wealth which our intelligence, curiosity and creativity, culture and tools represent.

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    Nice details in your post icewendigo.

    I suggest that without bacteria we are nothing. They are the foundation of all complex life and comprise the greatest amount of living organisms on this rock drifting in space.

    On any possible, reasonable or fair criterion, bacteria are—and always have been—the dominant forms of life on Earth. Our failure to grasp this most evident of biological facts arises in part from the blindness of our arrogance but also, in large measure, as an effect of scale. We are so accustomed to viewing phenomena of our scale—sizes measured in feet and ages in decades—as typical of nature.

    Bacteria dwell in virtually every spot that can sustain any form of life. And we have underestimated their global number because we, as members of a kingdom far more restricted in potential habitation, never appreciated the full range of places that might be searched.

    For example, the ubiquity and role of bacteria in the open oceans have been documented only in the past 20 years. Conventional methods of analysis missed up to 99 percent of these organisms because we could identify only what could be cultured from a water sample, and most species don't grow on most culture media. Now, with methods of genomic sequencing and other techniques, we can assess taxonomic diversity without growing a large, pure culture of each species.
    Stephen Jay Gould, "Planet of the Bacteria" 1996

    I sometimes entertain the thought that we are merely a convenient way for bacteria to proliferate and disperse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    On the numerical scale, it would double the number of 'intelligent' species in the universe.
    If that means something to you - great.

    The term 'alien' has some interesting connotations, not all of them positive.
    Call them whatever you want. If they exist, I doubt we'd ever find out about it, and if they did, so what.
    I'm reasonably sure that the discovery of another intelligent life-form would be of significance to science although if and when such a discovery might come about is not something that anyone can project so I can appreciate the 'so what' indifference of pragmatic persons, being rather pragmatic by nature myself.
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    There's a few billion folks who already claim to know an alien life form. They may feel more significant but in reality their insignificance is even greater than that imposed by a measly universe. (I didn't want my theist friends to feel I wasn't thinking of them)

    I think if I am to have some significance then I need to be able to measure the affect I have on the universe. How do I measure up right now? I provide a different means of moving particles from point A to B but I am limited in where I can go. Therefore I am pretty damn insignificant as far as rock moving goes. Let's see... I can think about the universe's origins, that's significant but is that important to the universe? Maybe if it was alive and didn't know how it got here then my thoughts might have some relevance but for all intents it appears that the universe only contains living things. How important that is, I haven't got a clue. Still a living thing(me) acting as a surrogate thinker for something that's not alive(universe) is about as insignificant as a blind man with a telescope.

    You can see where I'm going with this. My significance cannot be measured by comparing me to inanimate things but by how I affect them. It's not important that I am so small or too large in the universe. This lump of mud that defines me possesses a certain property that a vast collection of universal dirt does not. I am alive, my significance is dependent on how I measure up to other living things and my affect on the universe. My affect so far on the universe is to act as a contributor in the destruction of a planet's ecosystems, barely enough to make the universe flinch. However, collectively as a species I think we can have more of an affect.

    It may turn out that life only appeared on the Earth. In this case, and if science can provide a helping hand, then we can raise our significance level simply by introducing life to dead worlds. I know it's more complicated than that but if we obtain technology to reach interstellar space then surely the next steps are not too far behind. If we discover life is everywhere than I think it fair to measure our significance against that which we find. It would be great knowing that nothing we've found measured up to our intelligence, this again would increase our level of significance. On the other hand if we find we are not the sharpest knife in the drawer then I'm sure those beings would let us know in one way or another just how significant we are.

    If we can affect other worlds then I would consider that as affecting the universe simply because it is what everything is a part of. I also can't say what we are capable of but if history means anything then it might not be a stretch to think of us doing a lot more than dispensing life amongst the universe.
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    (wild guess du jour)
    there are billions of other life forms in the universe, and billions of billions more have gone extinct, and most are/were composed of roughly the same chemicals as are we.

    millions have central nervous systems and brains

    hundreds of thousands have evolved through our current level of developemental evolution

    some communicate(d) in something that we would recognize as language

    and
    they also wondered
    "are we alone in the universe"
    .............................
    as/re insignificant........how is it possible to know that?
    .......
    one alien says to another, "when we are home are we still aliens?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by sculptor View Post
    (wild guess du jour)
    there are billions of other life forms in the universe, and billions of billions more have gone extinct, and most are/were composed of roughly the same chemicals as are we.

    millions have central nervous systems and brains

    hundreds of thousands have evolved through our current level of developemental evolution

    some communicate(d) in something that we would recognize as language

    and
    they also wondered
    "are we alone in the universe"
    .............................
    as/re insignificant........how is it possible to know that?
    .......
    one alien says to another, "when we are home are we still aliens?"
    Must be the explorer in me but I think I've sort of been intimating at getting out there to find out just how significant we are. It is impossible to know our true status. I can't think of anything less significant than being alone, a one of a kind, an island in the middle of a vast ocean..... what do you compare to? Judging insignificance is a glass half full/empty enterprise. I'm merely thinking out loud so I'm open to changing my views.

    One of the points I made in the OP was how important science will be as we learn about ourselves, in the future and in the universe beyond Earth. Hate to see it slow down or come to a screeching halt, specifically research, because of financial, political or religious reasons. I can see us being so naive to our insignificance that we choose to remain so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    There's a few billion folks who already claim to know an alien life form. They may feel more significant but in reality their insignificance is even greater than that imposed by a measly universe. (I didn't want my theist friends to feel I wasn't thinking of them)
    This brings up a point. I wonder if the need to find meaning in one's existence is universal, or is it just a feature of our culture? I think the atheist answer would have to be that there is no meaning. No creator means no purpose. All is just random.

    Are the space aliens a substitute for God - some beings looking down upon us, either approvingly or disapprovingly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    There's a few billion folks who already claim to know an alien life form. They may feel more significant but in reality their insignificance is even greater than that imposed by a measly universe. (I didn't want my theist friends to feel I wasn't thinking of them)
    This brings up a point. I wonder if the need to find meaning in one's existence is universal, or is it just a feature of our culture? I think the atheist answer would have to be that there is no meaning. No creator means no purpose. All is just random.

    Are the space aliens a substitute for God - some beings looking down upon us, either approvingly or disapprovingly?
    I had that very thought when I was writing it. I just didn't want to get into a religious debate. I think there is a lot merit to your suggestion. There's something for all of us out there I suppose, real or imagined. Perhaps we like being insignificant, feeling safer knowing someone's looking us over. Something stronger, smarter. It's too dangerous out there to be skulking around looking for aliens.
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    assume that the speed of light is indeed the limiting factor, nothing, no life form that we know of could survive a trip around our galaxy, yet alone to another one. In the time it would take just to cross our own galaxy, the species would evolve into something else several times.

    if we find a way around that little problem, then \
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    I remember when I was very young, doing some stargazing, my older sister came out. She saw what I was doing and idly commented about how looking at the night sky makes her feel insignificant.

    How she felt that way was a mystery to me. I always felt the opposite.

    Looking at the night sky, being able to see a glimpse into magnificence, the magnitude of the stars, the distances between them, I knew I could do something that all the billions and billions of massive and amazing fusion reactors could not do: I could ask why. I could ask how. I could move to the left, or the right- I could dodge an incoming object. I could think about them and myself.
    For all their might, they could not do what we take for granted.
    Significance, to me, means to believe that I am.
    If I share it with you, what's the difference between you and an alien? We matter here, to ourselves and to eachother. We screw up, make mistakes, we assert our dominance and our nature. We learn and we grow and sometimes, we don't learn fast enough. It's not because we're insignificant, but because we must keep moving, keep learning, keep growing.
    We are significant if we choose to be, not because someone confirms it.

    Trillions of years from now, this universe will probably expand until there is nothing in sight. The Earth, by then, will have been long gone, returned as dust to space and perhaps... even re-coalesced into something new.

    Everything's gotta end sometime.

    So, enjoy it while it lasts, while we can. When you have no one to share it with, share it with yourself- appreciate it by its own merit, not because someone else agreed with it.

    I'm older now. Yet, I still feel that same awe when I look into the night sky. Decades later, that hasn't lessened even a bit. I don't often speak of it. I don't often share it. Far more often, no one is around as I sit contemplating the stars above. But I'm around. And that's all that really matters.
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    Yes. Significance is a matter of perspective and the undeniable and inexplicable fact of the matter is that by whatever means, we are a species that has evolved the capacity for multi-dimensional mental modeling as we endeavor to conceptualize the universe and our own place within it while embracing the objective and subjective connotations of the hypothesis simultaneously.

    We believe that we know something about the things themselves when we speak of trees, colors, snow, and flowers; and yet we possess nothing but metaphors for things — metaphors which correspond in no way to the original entities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    Yes. Significance is a matter of perspective and the undeniable and inexplicable fact of the matter is that by whatever means, we are a species that has evolved the capacity for multi-dimensional mental modeling as we endeavor to conceptualize the universe and our own place within it while embracing the objective and subjective connotations of the hypothesis simultaneously.
    That's a lot of big words. I think you broke my brain.

    I notice that there's a "like" button. Is there a "dislike" button?
    What if I want to tell someone I dislike their post? I'm not allowed to?

    I dislike that.

    That's it - I quit. Oww... my head...



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