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    I find the theist claim of God's incomprehensibility to be somewhat lacking in logic. I could be wrong but in order to identify incomprehension in a deity do you not have to understand at least something about the god?

    If I said "My god is incomprehensible" then I'm actually comprehending something about him/her/it. I suppose having just this knowledge is a licence to say anything and everything about your god because in essence you realize you actually know something about the god. It's totally bizarre.... knowing that your god cannot be understood is a ticket to understanding him/her/it. Is this an accurate assessment of theist logic?


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    I think theist logic works like this:

    When asked to explain why their all powerful God lets good people die they start with premise of free will and non interference.

    When asked to explain why their God behaves like this, this is where the idea of being incomprehensible comes in, they will say he is incomprehensibile so as to suggest his motives are beyond the understanding of us mere mortals and thus any action or in-action by God is ultimately justified by reasoning we are not capable of comprehending.

    Often this may also be used for self delusion to help preserve the idea of a 'perfect god' in their own minds especially in times of personal tragedy.


    “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.”

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    Is it fair to say then that theists recognize God's incomprehensibility but it doesn't preclude them from knowing everything about God. Knowing and comprehending being two different things. They know what He eats for breakfast but they don't understand why. Theists know he's killed wicked people but they don't understand .....wait a minute!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    I find the theist claim of God's incomprehensibility to be somewhat lacking in logic. I could be wrong but in order to identify incomprehension in a deity do you not have to understand at least something about the god?

    If I said "My god is incomprehensible" then I'm actually comprehending something about him/her/it. I suppose having just this knowledge is a licence to say anything and everything about your god because in essence you realize you actually know something about the god. It's totally bizarre.... knowing that your god cannot be understood is a ticket to understanding him/her/it. Is this an accurate assessment of theist logic?
    I suppose it could be said! but usually theists would claim to comprehend more of God than the fact that he is comprehensible.

    For example they could claim that they know and comprehend the emenation or manifestation of God. Mind, energy, matter. These things are supposed to be omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent. hence god is everywhere, all mighty and all knowing.
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