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  1. #1 Can anything but death exist outside of life? 
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    First man found the molecule, then the atom, and then finally the subatomic particle… each time believing we had finally reached the end of the line. Today we have looked even further into the microscope, unearthing what the most modern science now calls elementary particles, many believing once again that further substructure likely will not be discovered. Yet again as we speak, theorists unite and new theories have arisen, that would focus us even further into mankind’s great microscope.

    What if life is the same? What if biologists, like physicists, cannot yet see the end of the line from where they stand? What if that line never ends? It is believed by the biological community that life arose from inorganic, non-living matter. One may beg to differ. The human system of biology has sought to define conscious life by certain fundamentals, by observing matter for all or most of what we call 7 “phenomena” (the capacity to reproduce, the capacity to grow, the capacity to adapt, etc.) But what if life, like matter, needs to be put further under the microscope to truly observe the infinitely shrinking substructure of consciousness, the line that never ends? In other words, what if all things are alive?

    Here’s a thought…

    Just as a microscope made entirely of matter is needed to observe the infinitely shrinking substructure of matter, the microscope that one would need to observe the infinitely shrinking substructure of life would itself need also to be made entirely of life.


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    Why are you posting this nonsense in multiple threads?


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    Would it be possible to get this thread and the one in biology merged?
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    Death doesn't exist, it isn't a thing, its more like a concept in a way. If life dies, then that life ceases to be in existence.
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    Sorry all for the identical post... I thought this might apply to both physics and biology.

    Quote Originally Posted by question for you View Post
    Death doesn't exist, it isn't a thing, its more like a concept in a way. If life dies, then that life ceases to be in existence.
    Right.
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    Life is something that i believe to be absent. I believe in forever going universes, with different laws and reality's. Just within our universe, the odds of the earth happening is 1/9999999999999(x999999999999) <--- way more than that, but you get the drift. However, with the sheer size of the universe and it's growth rate, everything in probability happens every now and then. Somewhere in our own universe there be an exact replica of our solar system, down the the last person. The time on it may be different because it was created prior or later to our own, but it's still out there. My belief is that everything was made to happen. If you tagged every particle and took in every single accountable effector, you could see every single collision, every single result, in turn, every action there would ever be. Sure chaos theory puts it down, but the chaos theory is within the human mind, to not be able to keep a recurring number recurring. In theoretical reality, everything was meant to happen, since the big bang. From you typing this, to me replying. It all came down to the sheer science, not my free will. The tiny odds of every atom in the right place to make me construct a sentence properly to reply is such a small probability is may as well not exist, but it's still a probability right? So out of every roll of the dice, within all of the universe and every lasting time, it's gotta happen at least once.

    I just made myself sound like a nut job :3
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    I really like this font for some reason...

    Anyway, t
    his looks more philosophy than either physics or biology. Nonsensical philosophy at that.
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  9. #8 death exists. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by question for you View Post
    Death doesn't exist, it isn't a thing, its more like a concept in a way. If life dies, then that life ceases to be in existence.

    The only way to prove that death does not exist is disprove its existence.
    Try to disprove its existence.

    +ve will not be there without -ve. similarly death and life.

    The amazing thing is that you create life from death.
    Just see everything around you.
    anything you name it. Computer, Chair, car, etc.

    Living means to be active in this world and serve something. Generally the owner / creator to be served. Computer is serving us as per the one who created it. The creator / Inventor made it to be like that. But you need electricity for a computer as a human needs soul.

    Everything has expiry date. Even a Human Being. Just name anything, you will get expiry date.
    If death does not exist then you should live forever. You see it because it exists. How can you see or feel something that does not exist. If you want to feel or see death, simply unplug the soul as you are unplugging the power from you computer.

    What does death mean to you?.
    who should come first death or life?.
    I say death is the first.

    Even Life after death exists. This means that we were dead-alive- dead -alive.
    In Religion, Life After death is the judgement day.

    Try to prove me wrong.

    Know that i am not expert in physics or biology.
    I am in Computer science Field and believe in logic.
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    Be careful, ali.

    Logic has been described as the best way to make horrible blunders with complete confidence.
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    You cannot die nothing is wasted in death. You will be remodeled Then reprogramming to fit your needs will occur
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  12. #11 Life and Death 
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    can you explain what logic means to you.?
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    you can prove every thing with logic.
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    Depends of which 'logic' you use.
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