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    I hope I don't spoil somebody’s day but do you think 'lessons are ever learned' in the larger scheme of things like war or religion or do we just keep making the same old same old.

    Sometimes, it seems to me anyway, that we as a species are pretty good at repitition but pretty poor in our choices in what we actually repeat like in the case of two world wars for instance.




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    Relevent quote (sorry, forgot who said it) : "A genius is a person who makes the same mistake only five times."

    On wars, this is a mistake made thousands of times, but there is good news. Most of us have learned at least a little bit, and the level of violence is gradually decreasing.
    http://telicthoughts.com/steven-pink...h-of-violence/

    The percentage of the male population in any one generation that are killed in war is dropping, quite dramatically.


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    Well, every situation is different. And we are actually learning as we become more secular--that's why violent murders of most kinds are dramatically down the past half century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    Well, every situation is different. And we are actually learning as we become more secular--that's why violent murders of most kinds are dramatically down the past half century.
    Really? I thought it was CO2 that was responsible, you see, it has been going up quite a bit lately, so the two phenomena must be inversely related...but are people in general really "more secular"? Make your case, if you would be so kind.
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    The history books inform us of the consequences of war when diplomacy fails. I think World War I more or less came about due to poor diplomacy. World War II came about because of a megalomaniac.

    But an example of a lesson learnt from past wars is the foundation of the UN to improve diplomacy. Unfortunately when diplomacy fails, war can still help achieve your goals if you have the stomach for it. Syrian President Assad has already learnt this from his father that brute force on your own people keeps you in power. Only time will tell if he’s right again.
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    Just LOOK at all we Americans learned from Vietnam and the French experience there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapples View Post
    The history books inform us of the consequences of war when diplomacy fails. I think World War I more or less came about due to poor diplomacy. World War II came about because of a megalomaniac.

    But an example of a lesson learnt from past wars is the foundation of the UN to improve diplomacy. Unfortunately when diplomacy fails, war can still help achieve your goals if you have the stomach for it. Syrian President Assad has already learnt this from his father that brute force on your own people keeps you in power. Only time will tell if he’s right again.
    There have been wars without megalomaniacs and megalomaniacs without World Wars. Other than that your theory is sound.
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