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    Do you believe in phychics? it is hard to believe that someone has supernatural powers, but there accuracy is undenieble. there are countless police stories where phychics have seen visions that solved mysteries, and a prophecy made in 2000 read "in the month of September 2001, disaster will strike on america." and it did.


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    disaster strikes many countries across the world every year.
    it was americas turn that year, and if the drought here lasts much longer then i'd go as far as to say we'll be facing a disaster.

    as for psychic powers the answer is quite simply no.


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    but the evidence is undeniable. there is a library of predictions, 200 volumes long, from the same person, and all true! it cannot simply be coincedince. i could understand one person randomly making a guess, getting it right once,and calling it phychic, but 200 volumes a coincedince
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    I can tell you from experiance that some of them are very real. There are some that try to fake it but there are still a lot of very real and powerful phychics. Even I have dreamed quite a few things my self. There was one summer where I was seeing months into the future almost every day, until I forced myself to stop seeing it. Its annoying to know what is going to happen, even though I couldn't tell when they were at the time, I could knew it was something that was going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chamilton333
    but the evidence is undeniable. there is a library of predictions, 200 volumes long, from the same person, and all true! it cannot simply be coincedince. i could understand one person randomly making a guess, getting it right once,and calling it phychic, but 200 volumes a coincedince
    Would this not mean that the future exists, and is pre determined, therefore we do not have free will,
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    Here is my outlook:

    Even humans follow natural laws.

    Thoughts (including predictions which may then be recorded) are the result of a series of chemical reactions in the brain. I have never heard of chemical reactions indicating anything about the future more than, say, tarot cards or runes.

    I have three criticisms of people who claim to predict the future:
    (1) Unless there is an unbiased source which can prove that the prediction existed before the event, I stop reading right away [to me this includes shows where predictions are made then the result is shown later].
    (2) Many of the predictions are worded extremely ambiguously to the point that any number of events may fulfill them [including Nostrodomous' WWII predictions].
    (3) Many of the people who claim to talk to the dead or see things about the future end up concluding that the person's dead aunt likes the new Living Room furniture...These are not only grossly unproveable, but are also voiced only after many "Does someone on this side of the room have a dead relative whose name starts with an E? ...or it could be a D."-type comments.

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    I actually gave this poster some benefit of the doubt and did a google search on "phycics". In the first 19 examples found this word seemed to be a common misspelling of physics. It was only on the 20th item found that I encountered the following:

    "Online Live Psychics - psycics, psyics, phycics "

    With this I had to laugh. Aparently they do not want to make the ability to spell things correctly a requirement for finding their site.
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    there are a lot of people predicting a lot of things, and it would be surprising if none of those predictions would come true. And those success stories are the only ones that make it to the news. Just a matter of statistics in my opinion.
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    I also think prophecy is in the eye of the beholder(and his entertainment news).

    Police stories: Should we think that occasions where phychics were uselsess are rare because we dont hear about them, or should we think we dont hear about them because it would not make good entertainment (tonight, the amazing stories of psychics that were wrong ).

    Disaster will strike america:
    There are always disasters somewhere, tsunamy, hurricane, war, and theres a ton of predictions of all kinds, most of which are either too general to be worthwhile or dead wrong but we dont hear about them, we just remember or focus on the random times where it happens to coincide.
    Many thousands of people were killed in America in 2001 by american hands(murders), even more people died of Cancer and in street car accidents than from terrorism in 2001, and 2002, 2003,... its just that 1 million people that die individually doesnt make a good gripping media circus. Like the police stories, what we see on TV is a very distorted, carefully selected and edited view of reality, small potrions of "true" events presented without the whole picture can be just as misleading as the best fabrication. :?

    Psychics are professionals of sham and perception manipulation, like astrology and con men. Its a bit like the Barnum effect (or Forer Effect) in Astrology when we think a general statement is accurate for an individual when it applies to a lot of other people.

    Its possible there are phycics out there, Im open to the idea, but so far I have yet to see a psychic for whom I could gather "all" the "detailed" predictions to see the entire batting average as a whole.
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    not saying i believe in psycics... just a though... who's to say that the human brain isn't still evolving... maybe it is... and as it is... some people get a sixth sense... ponder that
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawngoldw
    not saying i believe in psycics... just a though... who's to say that the human brain isn't still evolving... maybe it is... and as it is... some people get a sixth sense... ponder that
    The size of the female vagina limits the capabilities of the human brain and hampers human evolution.

    Besides, what would more thinking power mean? Most likely we would have higher intelligence. We would be able to adapt to situations quicker, and see certain patterns better. That is to say, a person would have a sharper, keener mind. To believe that he would suddenly begin to experience an 'awakening' of some sort, where all sorts of new abilities are opened up is absurd.

    As for psychics, I'm waiting for a theory on the mind that does not radically contradict modern science and supports psychics. If you think you can move a block with your mind, how do you do it? If there is some kind of supernatural energy, how do you appeal to it?

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    Now I am confused as to what kind of psychics we are talking about here. Is it only those that can see the future or just those that can move things with their minds, can't think of what thats called, or are we talking about all psychics? There is such a thing as pyrochanesis(sp?) and many other things that people can do with just their minds. Now I have never actually seen a fire starter, but I have heard of them and read about them. But really what are we talking about now?
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    isnt it possible, with a hyperfast computer, if it knew what every atom in the universe was doing, to know the future? not predict, because it would be right on. could it be the same with people? we know some people are born with brains that are finely tuned to certain things, like maybe music. there was a show on 60 minutes that talked about a boy that made a symphony in les than an hour. if people knew alot of things, they would know what would happen with a fast brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chamilton333
    if it knew what every atom in the universe was doing,
    This is only possible if you believe in a concept of god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chamilton333
    <..>if people knew alot of things, they would know what would happen with a fast brain.
    Good point, and that may actually explain part of the problem (besides those 'paranormals' [sic] who really just guess). People often know more then they can actively recollect. Sometimes this passive knowledge pops up in a dream, or as an unconscious association.

    For example, I read a story about a firefighter who saved his squad because he had the 'feeling' something was wrong with a certain fire. So he ordered his men outside the building, and quickly after that the building exploded. Came out that he unconsciously noticed a certain smell which he didn't recognise, but he had a negative association with it. This smell came from a certain explodable gas he had encountered before.

    Now if you'd only hear part of this story you'd say "his paranormal vision saved him", while with more information you could logically explain how he came to his decision to leave the building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    For example, I read a story about a firefighter who saved his squad because he had the 'feeling' something was wrong with a certain fire. So he ordered his men outside the building, and quickly after that the building exploded. Came out that he unconsciously noticed a certain smell which he didn't recognise, but he had a negative association with it. This smell came from a certain explodable gas he had encountered before.

    Now if you'd only hear part of this story you'd say "his paranormal vision saved him", while with more information you could logically explain how he came to his decision to leave the building.
    If this is your story, then there can be no such thing as paranormal. After all, if a person is paranormal, then he must be in tune with certain aspects of the environment that others are not. The person can only be considered paranormal, so you seem to be saying, to the degree that others are not able to be aware of the mechanism that surely exists. Once the trick is out of the bag, it is no longer magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes
    The person can only be considered paranormal, so you seem to be saying, to the degree that others are not able to be aware of the mechanism that surely exists. Once the trick is out of the bag, it is no longer magic.
    Exactly :wink:

    Maybe we should speak of serendipity instead, to describe such seemingly random decisions which lead to a positive outcome. While it seems the firefighter was just guessing about what to do, his brain unconsciously knew exactly what was going on and acted on facts. No "spirit world" or "6th sense" involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    Maybe we should speak of serendipity instead, to describe such seemingly random decisions which lead to a positive outcome. While it seems the firefighter was just guessing about what to do, his brain unconsciously knew exactly what was going on and acted on facts. No "spirit world" or "6th sense" involved.
    It looks like the official vote is 10 to 1 against Hamilton. I have nothing against the notion of capabilities beyond our comprension. On the topic of supernatural phenomena, I am reminded of the quote, I forget by whom, to the effect that there is no such thing as supernatural, as nothing can transcend the laws of nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    Maybe we should speak of serendipity instead, to describe such seemingly random decisions which lead to a positive outcome. While it seems the firefighter was just guessing about what to do, his brain unconsciously knew exactly what was going on and acted on facts. No "spirit world" or "6th sense" involved.
    It looks like the official vote is 10 to 1 against Hamilton. I have nothing against the notion of capabilities beyond our comprension. On the topic of supernatural phenomena, I am reminded of the quote, I forget by whom, to the effect that there is no such thing as supernatural, as nothing can transcend the laws of nature.
    still, explain how, in all 243 volumes of predictions, one man's predictions were ALL TRUE. and all future popes were named, the september 11th attacks, and how a person could be asked any question about the future while in a trance and have it all true. dont tell me he smelled the prediction either. and it is now 11 to 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chamilton333
    still, explain how, in all 243 volumes of predictions, one man's predictions were ALL TRUE.
    Since I am completely unaware of what you are talking about, I cannot explain it. However, I can say that I do not believe it. You begin by talking about 200 volumes by an unspecified predictor. This quickly expands to 243 volumes of predictions. Who is this predictor? What are his predictions? Most likely, either it is a bunch of rubbish or you are reading far too much into the predictions. I find it odd that you would ask me to explain a phenomenon where a prerequisite is that I accept your word that it even happened. Cite your source for these predictions and present a few as evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes
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    still, explain how, in all 243 volumes of predictions, one man's predictions were ALL TRUE.
    Since I am completely unaware of what you are talking about, I cannot explain it. However, I can say that I do not believe it. You begin by talking about 200 volumes by an unspecified predictor. This quickly expands to 243 volumes of predictions. Who is this predictor? What are his predictions? Most likely, either it is a bunch of rubbish or you are reading far too much into the predictions. I find it odd that you would ask me to explain a phenomenon where a prerequisite is that I accept your word that it even happened. Cite your source for these predictions and present a few as evidence.
    it was on the history channel a while back, a program called "the other nicodemus". ill google it to see if i can find the guys name.
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    Ahh, but the world is your playground. Most just don't know it yet. Your life's experiences are designed to fulfil your desires and needs for growth. What you fear will one day find you, why..because you want it to. What you wish to happen will one day become true, even if it's not good for you. Life is about learning and only you know what you need to learn. To predict the future is to desire to experience an event. Accepting that you are in control of your own destiny is the key to finding happiness with it, even if you end up half dead in an emergency room. Somehow you wanted to experience it.

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    there cant be PSYCKIC people because that would go against the laws of phsyics
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    Hmm, what about nostradamus or other future predictors?

    Their speech is so increddible broad thad they can cover almost every future.

    like that the 4th world war will be fought with clubs and rocks.

    It would be a nice conclusion, and an idea, because who can predict what the 4th world war would be. the 3rd and 5th world war will also be included. Plus the thought that poor people who have nothing else to fight with used rocks and clubs for a while.

    My idea is that his future sight is logically explainable. But with the space travel "theory" it's not in use anymore. The 4th world war will be in space, with or without other species. As us as the aggressor or the defendant.
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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    u cant see into the future. future is not determened until u go there to see it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelos
    there cant be PSYCKIC people because that would go against the laws of phsyics
    but are you sure we know ALL the laws of physics?
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    maybe not all, but any logic law, all laws is logical no matter if we know them or not, forbids telepathy. the only way for that to happen is if the brain by its activity generate X-rays capable to penetrate the skull and then that there is a part in the brain capable to sense that and disifer the information the X-ray contain that other X-rays dont
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelos
    maybe not all, but any logic law, all laws is logical no matter if we know them or not, forbids telepathy. the only way for that to happen is if the brain by its activity generate X-rays capable to penetrate the skull and then that there is a part in the brain capable to sense that and disifer the information the X-ray contain that other X-rays dont
    the more hard to find law, the longer it takes for us to find it. there may be some screwed up way this works, maybe not.
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    im ready to bet my balls there isnt
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelos
    im ready to bet my balls there isnt
    prepare to lose your manhood. and your dignity.
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    how do u know i am a guy who can lose any balls?
    i dont think telepathy is possible, if u can mathematical and physical prove it im ready to belive it
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

    On the eighth day Zelos said: 'Let there be darkness,' and the light was never again seen.

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