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  1. #1 Life after death 
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    Greetings,

    I'm pondering what happens to life after death. Each living thing contains energy. What do you think happens to this energy or matter after death? When water is boiled it turns into vapor. The human body contains water, so where do human thoughts and experiences go? Reincarnation seems logical to me now.


    Can human minds gain another sense?
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    Energy just changes forms. When we die, our "energy" dissipates as heat. Our cells break down and become food for bugs and bacteria which then excrete us and this process of ecological interaction continues. We just change forms, but there is no "you" in there anymore... All those thoughts require energy... the neural web is activated and it is where the sense of self comes from...

    When we die, that web is no longer able to function, and there is no more you. All that remains are memories of you in other people's neural webs...

    Your consciousness is not a substance like water. It is an emergent property of a lot of underlying mechanisms. When those mechanisms stop, so too does your "being."

    I'm uncertain why any of this makes you think that reincarnation is logical, unless you really really really stretch the definition of reincarnation to mean something like the ecological interaction I referenced above.


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    I do not think our consciousness that we consider life is lost when our body loses the last of our energy. my reason for this is that we are constantly losing energy our entire lives and our metabolism feeds us new energy on a daily basis, so the energy that you have now is not the same energy you had at birth. the only thing that you can know for certain has been a constant is wakeful experience. your memories are a history of energy just as time is, a history of energy you had in the past. your current energy is your current awareness. you are not the same person now that you were at birth. every second you are a brand new consciousness inheriting the memories of the last, forming new opinions and ideas unique to the moment.

    personally i believe that waking life is mandatory experience and will continue forever, though in what form i am not sure. through my mystical experiences i am inclined to believe that conscious awareness progresses through a hierarchy of collected social systems, since our own awareness is really the social interactions of all our neurons through electrochemical signals in our nervous system. perhaps when we die we will become the collective consciousness of a social group of a higher order. since our own nervous system's awareness is based on electrochemical interactions between billions of individual organisms, it is feasable that similar electrochemical interactions are possible with higher forms of consciousness through the practice of chemistry within the mind (aka drugs).

    also, since as far as my experience is concerned i have been forced into living this life since the moment i 'woke up' as a baby, that conscious experience cannot simply come into existence from nowhere, and my own consciousness must have been in some kind of existence previous to this life and is only a seperated portion of the universal consciousness, currently governing this collective consciousness of cells and neurons.

    of course, my own waking experience is only my conscious mind, and my unconscious mind is the one that is really in control. according to carl jung and many others, including myself, the unconscious is shared by all things at once and if it really is the one in control, the unconscious must be the true overall godhead of consciousness that governs the universe. in this sense, we are all god in a state of limited information input, the limits of which are set by our body's senses. the way we perceive our senses (color, sound, taste, smell, touch) is the shared experience received from the cells that are actually experiencing them. this means that despite the difference in cell structure, all conscious entities share the same sense experience in terms of color taste smell touch or sound. to me this says that these sense experiences are created by consciousness itself and are intrinsic properties of consciousness.

    I believe after death, our consciousness no longer is forced to spend its senses on mandatory bodily inputs and can freely experience color sound taste smell and touch in any way imaginable without the limitations of a physical body.
    I prefer to use my right brain to study the universe rather than my left brain.
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    I believe after death, our consciousness no longer is forced to spend its senses on mandatory bodily inputs and can freely experience color sound taste smell and touch in any way imaginable without the limitations of a physical body.
    Then what's the point of a physical body in the first place? Why do we have these elaborate physical systems if we can see, hear, touch, smell and taste without them? Seems a bit of a waste.
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    you are assuming that there is a purpose to life. I don't know whether there is or not, but I would never assume so.
    I prefer to use my right brain to study the universe rather than my left brain.
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    If you ponder life after death, you might just as well ponder life before birth. Some people claim to have been Roman soldiers, or whatever they want to believe, through some sort of hypnotic regression supplied by wealthy regressionists (or whatever these charlatans call themselves).
    An alternative theory says that we are simply made by a mixing of our ancestors' and parents' genes. What came before birth, and what comes after death, we are utterly ignorant of. The only thing we can be sure of is that genes are the replicators that create life on earth, and we are their survival machines. There was nothing but darkness before life and there will be nothing but darkness after death. It serves no purpose to believe otherwise. Genes carry information in a stable form from one generation to another, while individuals flicker in and out of existence. How many unborn ghosts could there have been? Just enjoy your walk in the sun while you can.
    It's a pure fantasy to think that there is life after death, when there is almost certainly nothing but oblivion. This is how religion earns its keep: believe in Christianity and you will be seated at the right hand of God; believe in Islam and (if you are male) you will be surrounded by consorts in Paradise; believe in Buddhism and you will attain to the permanent bliss of Nirvana, and so on and so forth.
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    Energy just carries on going its conserved, your ego though simply ceases to be. No in between and I am fine with that.
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