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  1. #1 Is it always good to save lives? 
    Forum Junior ArezList's Avatar
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    HI, all

    I just read an article on the front page of NyTimes.
    It's said by saving lives of infants' using modern hi-tech like IVF, many infants are born prematurely, and eventually die of SIDS,or mental retardation, eye and ear impairments and learning disabilities.

    I was thinking in this sense, if hi-tech have a permanent effect on the average health condition of the population, or it lowers the infant mortality, then should we take some action in preventing using such technologies to save babies?


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    I don't think you meant to say that eye and ear impairments, and learning disabilities cause many babies to die, did you?

    I'd first need to see the numbers, "many" is too ambiguous to base ethics, and then legislation.


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    You may want to ask what the parents of those particular infants have to say about your idea and then report back.
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    I'm pretty sure anyone can tell you wha they have to say. Whats more important, in a democracy, is what everyone has to say. Not just the individuals who think they are the only one's effected, but all of those who actually are.
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    Most blind and deaf people would rather be alive with their disabilities than dead.

    Arguably, even the mentally disabled are probably quite content with their lives.
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    Indeed, but I think the deciding factor is how it effects others, not their particular hormone levels.

    What about sociopaths? What about people who don't understand happiness? Since happiness is your deciding factor, it is ok to kill them, and completely ignore the effects of doing so.
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    Even the sociopathic still have preferences. I'm not making a utilitarian argument.

    Once that individual already exists, it's a little too late to decide that they will no longer make the rest of us happy so they must disappear. Should we be exterminating smelly homeless people with no friends?
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    If your not making a utilitarian argument, then why mention happiness?

    No it's not too late. You are making a utilitarian argument, it's usefull to be apathetic when it comes to making unpopular decisions.
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    An argument based on right to exist is deontological not utilitarian.

    I was talking about the preferences of the individual, their assumed desire to exist. Thus, they have a right not to have this desire infringed upon.

    Under the vast majority of legal systems, once a baby is born it is a legal individual. It has the right not to be killed. From a purely legal standpoint it would be akin to murder to withhold care from a prematurely born baby.
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