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    Forum Masters Degree Golkarian's Avatar
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    Kuhn states the shifts in science only occur after a generation has retired or died, do you think ID might be more accepted after this happens? (By the way I don't believe in ID). I'm more wondering about the trends among future scientists.


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    The consensus view of the scientific community is that ID is not just wrong-headed science, but it is not science at all. That arguably differs from previous paradigm shifts where the nay-sayers felt the science of the new idea was simply wrong. Couple that with the suspicion, validated by court cases, that the intent of ID is to usurp science. In these circumstances the only way ID will win through is if all scientists die.


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    So you think the paradigm shift is in the other direction? Do you think that it would even be possible to go in the other direction, given a different set of cirumstances?
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    In this context I don't understand what you mean by 'the other direction'. Please clarify.
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    That ID is becoming less excepted, rather than more excepted, among younger scientists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golkarian
    That ID is becoming less excepted, rather than more excepted, among younger scientists.
    It is my perception that the number of scientists, old or young, mainstream or maverick, who believed, believe, or shall believe in the validity of ID is vanishlngly small. There is no change whatsoever.

    My contrast was of earlier paradigm shifts with the putative shift you envisaged.
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    What is ID?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildstar
    What is ID?
    Intelligent Design - the newer formulation fo creationism that attempts to gain for it the gloss of being a "scientific" theory so that the creationists can use it to argue that creationism should be taught in school side by side with actual scientific theories (like Newton's Laws of Motion, evolution through natural selection, relativity and so on).
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    oh ok thank you. There is according to one scientist a two thirds chance there's a God.
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