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  1. #1 EXISTANCE BEFORE & AFTER DEATH 
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    EXISTANCE BEFORE & AFTER DEATH
    BY SUHAIL JALBOUT

    The first “Thinking Man”, the Cro-Magnon, appeared on our planet Earth around 35000 B.C. and then he was followed by modern man. Since our universe is 14 billion years old, it implies that it took an extremely long time to create an optimal being, modern man. It is quite possible that intelligent life may have been created elsewhere in the universe, possibly even before modern man on Earth, but no one yet can confirm or deny such existence. This means that modern man is the cream of creation since he appeared last.

    The question that follows is: Why the life span of modern man is so very short relative to the time it took for his creation? He lives an average time span of 70 years and then he disintegrates into different basic elements. All that remains of him is his work that is of interest to his fellow men whether in art, music, literature, science, and the like. How is it possible for the cream of creation that took 14 billion years to create live a very short time and then perish? This does not make sense. What happens to man after death? This question has been the prime concern of thinking man and still is to date. In fact all ancient civilizations concerned themselves with life after death even the Cro-Magnon people who lived in Cavillon, France. Archaeologists believe that they must have had some belief regarding life and death because they used to bury their dead.

    Modern man has religious and philosophical explanations as to what may happen after death. I do respect all the opinions and beliefs that exist with regards to this issue, as we ought to do. However, I have lately come up with a hypothesis about the nature of our existence before and after death that I would like to share with you.

    According to the Electrical Universe Theory, stars are connected to the core of their respective galaxies by currents. These currents produce electromagnetic fields that dominate our universe. Similarly, and being a part of this universe, the human body is also interconnected with electrical currents of a bio-chemical origin. The brain of modern man, the master controller, sends signals to different parts of the body through the nervous system. It is responsible for our actions, emotions, feelings, behavior, and the like. It represents man, the way he is, momentarily by means of electrical currents in the brain. Since current produces an electromagnetic field, it implies that our brain is a transmitter of electromagnetic energy. The transmitted energy represents every single electrical activity in the brain instantaneously. This means that we exist, during our lifetime, in two simultaneous modes: the physical mode and the electromagnetic mode.

    The physical mode represents the living status of an individual from the time he is conceived in his mother’s womb until death. As we all know, we have no decision making for our birth nor we have any decision making for our natural death. Upon death, the physical mode disintegrates into its basic elements and disappears except for the skeleton, if properly buried.

    The electromagnetic mode represents the living status of an individual, which is a record of every thought that is produced in his brain during his lifetime. It is a replica of the physical mode of an individual from the time the brain of the embryo becomes active until death. In this mode, which is created by the physical state, we have complete control of our decisions. Upon death, the electromagnetic mode remains in existence forever in our universe.

    As such, it seems that we do exist electromagnetically before and after death. However, I believe the electromagnetic field that is transmitted from the brain of each individual has a specific pattern. This would mean that it is quite possible to identify each person by his transmitted electromagnetic pattern in a similar way as fingerprints are used to identify people. The reason for this logic is based on the fact that if all people transmit the same electromagnetic patterns, then there is no need for our vocal cords. We would then communicate via electromagnetic transmission at the speed of light.

    There are two methods for measuring the output signals from the human brain:

    1. EEG or electroencephalogram. This method is used to measure and record on a chart the electrical activity of the brain by using sensors (electrodes).

    2. MEG or magnetoencephalography. This method is an imaging technique used to measure the magnetic fields produced by the electrical activity in the brain via extremely sensitive devices such as super conducting quantum interface devices (SQUID’s).

    The second method, MEG, is a much more accurate method for measuring the electromagnetic fields from the brain than the EEG. I have done extensive research to find data related to the patterns of electromagnetic fields that are transmitted from different brains but without success. There is no available data on this subject. So I put forward the following question to a prominent Neurologist (Professor and Chairman of the Neurology Department in a well known Medical Science University in USA): If we record the magnetic fields from the brains of 12 volunteers, using the MEG method, whereby each person is located in a separate room and each is exposed at the same moment to the same audio-visual data, would the recordings show a different pattern for each individual? His reply was that, with the present available equipment, the noise to signal ratio is quite high, which makes it difficult to differentiate between patterns.

    Let us assume for the purpose of my argument that my hypothesis is correct. I would, consequently, differentiate between two distinct modes that are associated with the transmission of data from the brain; namely, a dynamic mode and a steady state mode.

    1. The dynamic mode represents the electrical activity of an active brain during the life span of an individual. These electrical currents are continuously changing in the brain and they interface between the present activities and those that are stored in the memory. In this mode, the brain transmits and receives electromagnetic patterns from other human beings. In other words, brains can potentially communicate with each other electromagnetically if they can tune to the transmitted patterns. Tuning to specific patterns may explain the strange psychic phenomenon. There are gifted people who have the capability to tune to different transmitted patterns that happened in the past or are taking place at the present time. They read the mind of different people and whatever they are thinking of whether in the conscious or subconscious mind. They can tune to different electromagnetic patterns of active brains as we tune to an AM or FM or TV station. In short, the psychic is able to read the data of an electromagnetic pattern that contains all the information about a person’s life. Not many people can tune to the electromagnetic patterns of others even though most of us have had the odd experience of communicating with another person. Most twins do that all the time. Some believe that this type of communication takes place by means of telepathy, mentalism, empathy, the sixth sense, the third eye (the Pineal Gland) and the like. These experiences do not occur frequently and they are transmitted to relay a specific and possibly an urgent message. I wish to mention one incident that happened to me.

    One evening, while reading a book at home in Toronto, I had the urge to call a classmate whom I had not seen or heard from for almost 10 years. I looked for his phone number but could not find it. The next day, after work, I went to the Main Public Library in search for his telephone number. He was working in the Silicon Valley, USA, heading a team of researchers. Again I could not find the number. Three months later I learned that George passed away on the same evening that I had the urge to call him. I have no doubt in my mind that he was trying to reach me. I may have tuned to the electromagnetic pattern that he was transmitting before leaving us.

    2. The steady state mode represents the complete electrical activity of the brain that was transmitted before death. The electromagnetic pattern that was transmitted during a lifetime of a person remains somewhere in space. Since there is no more consciousness, there is no more added data to the pattern. If it is possible to locate and tune to any of these electromagnetic patterns, it is possible to play back a portion or a complete life span of a person. When a newly conceived infant starts forming, it is quite possible that it may tune to an existing electromagnetic pattern of a dead person. There are many incidents where patients under hypnosis speak in ancient languages that do not exist anymore. Also there are many incidents where people claim that they had a previous life or they lived in certain areas miles away from their present homes. This implies that a diseased person exists forever in the steady state electromagnetic mode.

    In conclusion, it will be very interesting if scientists invent a method to tune to the dynamic mode of the transmitted electromagnetic patterns of active brains. We may end up in a safer world. Also, it will be very interesting if scientists find a method to tune intelligent life to the steady state mode of diseased people and to those of their loved ones so that they can meet physically and replay their previous lives again. Who knows, maybe a new scientific field will be permitted legally to apply the steady state mode to perform “Bio-Magnetic” cloning.


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    Firstly, this was very well-written. Most posts are very rarely as eloquent or do not deserve praise for the quality of their writing. I was very impressed as the level of erudition as has been displayed here.

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    This means that modern man is the cream of creation since he appeared last
    Not necessarily. Evolution has always found a way to perfect, and, indeed, I see no reason why other animals may not eventually become sentient in much the same way we have. We should not delude ourselves as to the nature of our status; we are not the cream of creation, simply an evolutionary spin-off whose unique advantage managed to catapult it to the top of the food chain.

    Since our universe is 14 billion years old, it implies that it took an extremely long time to create an optimal being, modern man.
    Techincally speaking, it took the Universe many billion years to create Earth itself, and many millions of years later Earth managed to procure the first human being. So, I'm just nitpicking, but you should really measure it from the moment the Earth became hospitable to life.

    The question that follows is: Why the life span of modern man is so very short relative to the time it took for his creation?
    Possibly because man was an accident. Certainly no other animal has achieved half of what we have accomplished. Man is no different from any other animal, merely possessed with the capability of intelligence. if animals die quickyl, it makes sense for man to die at the same rate.

    What happens to man after death?
    I quite agree. Not just the Cro-Magnons, but the Neanderthals too posssessed an almost religious belief, similar to many tribal beliefs.

    On to the meat of the matter, now.

    The idea that our existence is based on an electromagnetic and physical basis had occured to me previously, but you have quite developed the idea. However, the problem arises with this statement:

    As such, it seems that we do exist electromagnetically before and after death
    Certainly, this cannot be so, as all our memories were stored within the physical brain. If the brain decays, the electromagnetic waves that contained information about our memories cease to exist. The quantum law of conservation of information means that your idea can be considered viable, but the information ceases to cohere together and act like a single individual; the experiences of our lifetime will become fragmented and jaded. As such, "we" do not exist after death, as our electromagnetic existence, for want of a better phrase, becomes fragmented enough to deny any chance of our existence.

    According to the Electrical Universe Theory
    What is the electrical Universe theory? I have never heard of it.

    However, I believe the electromagnetic field that is transmitted from the brain of each individual has a specific pattern
    From an electromagnetic standpoint, you're holding that the electrical activity of the brain has a specific frequency. This is mainly a matter for physics, though, although I must express disbelief at the existence of six billion different frequencies, especially when you look at the classical laws of electrmagnetic radiation.

    In this mode, the brain transmits and receives electromagnetic patterns from other human beings.
    How so? The photons from the electromagnetic activity of the brain are directed to the neurons within our brain, and not outside it.

    They read the mind of different people and whatever they are thinking of whether in the conscious or subconscious mind. They can tune to different electromagnetic patterns of active brains as we tune to an AM or FM or TV station. In short, the psychic is able to read the data of an electromagnetic pattern that contains all the information about a person’s life. Not many people can tune to the electromagnetic patterns of others even though most of us have had the odd experience of communicating with another person. Most twins do that all the time. Some believe that this type of communication takes place by means of telepathy, mentalism, empathy, the sixth sense, the third eye (the Pineal Gland) and the like. These experiences do not occur frequently and they are transmitted to relay a specific and possibly an urgent message. I wish to mention one incident that happened to me.

    One evening, while reading a book at home in Toronto, I had the urge to call a classmate whom I had not seen or heard from for almost 10 years. I looked for his phone number but could not find it. The next day, after work, I went to the Main Public Library in search for his telephone number. He was working in the Silicon Valley, USA, heading a team of researchers. Again I could not find the number. Three months later I learned that George passed away on the same evening that I had the urge to call him. I have no doubt in my mind that he was trying to reach me. I may have tuned to the electromagnetic pattern that he was transmitting before leaving us.
    Now you speak of psi, or psychic activity. I have a book on this subject with me at the moment, and apparently, despite many theories, remains unexplainable, although quantum entanglement is possible. Also, on the topic of twins, which you mentioned in the paragraph above, I apologise if i sound rude, but could you give me a source for that?

    In conclusion, it will be very interesting if scientists invent a method to tune to the dynamic mode of the transmitted electromagnetic patterns of active brains. We may end up in a safer world. Also, it will be very interesting if scientists find a method to tune intelligent life to the steady state mode of diseased people and to those of their loved ones so that they can meet physically and replay their previous lives again. Who knows, maybe a new scientific field will be permitted legally to apply the steady state mode to perform “Bio-Magnetic” cloning.
    Very optimistic. However, as a scientifc man, I must ask you if you have a way to test your hypothesis.


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    No I'm afraid that's just plain wrong.

    The EEG does not measure what you are thinking of. It is a very crude instrument and cannot replicate the action of individual neurons. You cannot determine someone's thoughts from this and you never will be.

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    it is possible to play back a portion or a complete life span of a person. When a newly conceived infant starts forming, it is quite possible that it may tune to an existing electromagnetic pattern of a dead person.
    How???
    Whats the underlying mechanism you asserting this on?
    It is not remotely possible.

    I strongly suggest you read up properly on electormagnetic theories and the its applications with the EEG/ECG/EMG/MEG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suhail Jalbout
    Since our universe is 14 billion years old, it implies that it took an extremely long time to create an optimal being, modern man.
    Please define "optimal being".

    Optimal usually means the best, for some fairly specific definition of best. What evidence do you have that we are optimal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Suhail Jalbout
    It is quite possible that intelligent life may have been created elsewhere in the universe, possibly even before modern man on Earth, but no one yet can confirm or deny such existence. This means that modern man is the cream of creation since he appeared last.
    The premise is correct, but the conclusion does not follow. If no one can confirm or deny the existence of life elsewhere, with what are you comparing man to decide we are "the cream of creation"? And by what criteria do you determine that the last to appear must be the best?

    Quote Originally Posted by Suhail Jalbout
    Why the life span of modern man is so very short relative to the time it took for his creation?
    What evidence do you have that lifespan is related to time taken for evolutionary development? If this were true, it would imply that the lifespan of an organism would change each time it evolves. Since there is no evidence for this your assumption does not appear to be valid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Suhail Jalbout
    How is it possible for the cream of creation that took 14 billion years to create live a very short time and then perish?
    One answer to this question might be that the point of any particular organism, including a man, is to pass on his genes, to participate in the process of evolution. By this criteria, it matters not one jot whether he leaves behind any art, music, or literature, all that matters is that he reproduced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suhail Jalbout
    According to the Electrical Universe Theory, stars are connected to the core of their respective galaxies by currents. These currents produce electromagnetic fields that dominate our universe.
    according to standard physics, the only force that acts at the distances of galaxies is gravity, hence i have my doubts about the validity of the Electrical Universe Theory
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    And another little thing -

    If the electromagnetic field generated by the electrical impulses is so small that a very sensitive detector is needed simply to pick them up, how can humans possibly interact with them over any practical distance? And it does not make any sense that a magnetic field can store information after death - it can only stay in existence as long as there is a source generating it (i.e. an electrical current).
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