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  1. #1 Human Paradox 
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    We have come to a point in human existence where we hav to power to destroy all life, and start a new Earth. Or to save all life, and begin become an almost immortal empire free to roam across the stars.

    Do you believe that we can all put everything aside and work for the good of everyone? or will we destroy ourselves in a hate filled selfish war.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brokenazs
    We have come to a point in human existence where we hav to power to destroy all life, and start a new Earth. Or to save all life, and begin become an almost immortal empire free to roam across the stars.
    we're nowhere near to having the powers you ascribe to the human race
    due to our numbers we may have the power to affect how life on earth lives or dies, but that's still a million miles away from being in control


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    enough nuclear weapons can destroy mostly all life on Earth, and i know we are long of from controlling it, but this next century will determine the fate of the rest of earth for ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brokenazs
    ... but this next century will determine the fate of the rest of earth for ever
    not so : the earth can look after itself - it's our survival we need to worry about
    surely you didn't think mankind is going to be the last species to go extinct, do you ?
    once we're gone, the rest of the biosphere is finally free to resume business as usual
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    not so : the earth can look after itself - it's our survival we need to worry about
    surely you didn't think mankind is going to be the last species to go extinct, do you ?
    once we're gone, the rest of the biosphere is finally free to resume business as usual
    man will be one of the last to survive, but would die off. we are adaptive. and by earth i meant living things on earth not the planet itself.

    humanity may end up pressing the big Alt-F4 button in the sky and end up restarting life on this planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brokenazs
    humanity may end up pressing the big Alt-F4 button in the sky and end up restarting life on this planet.
    that's ridiculous - everyone knows it's Shift-F5 !
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    haha ;D
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    This was found inscribed in stone by a priest of ancient Egypt (paraphrase): "The end times are nigh. The soil has grown poor. The young generation does not heed their elders." But I suspect he plagiarized that from an earlier work.

    Still I reckon you are right Brokenazs about our nuclear "minutes to midnight".

    It'll be yet hairier after we lose the capacity to survive even as animals. On the other hand, "we" will be much more than loose alliances of homo sapiens at that stage. "We" may find these bodies disposable. Or "they" will. :? That's a paradox of evolution and change. It destroys the ones responsible. Our they become mere cogs to a purpose larger and more conscious than them.

    The way I see the universe working, the hand of life at all scales through all times is necessary. Or we would have entropy. So I'm optimistic that life normally does get up (e.g. off this rock) and make great mischief before crash and burn.

    If you could bigbang just this area of the cosmos, in such a way to that it is more fertile, wouldn't you do it?
    A pong by any other name is still a pong. -williampinn
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    I really don't think we are able to extinct every organism - certainly not
    the microorganisms like archea which live in extreme enviroments. But I think
    it's possible or even probable that we will reach a singularity in the near future. A point in time at which everything changes. A mega paradigm shift if you will.
    Something much like C.G Jung's concept of the the spark, or coming together of opposites into what he called the "Irrational third". We will then start to see ourselves as a "whole" rather than just different individuals. That I think, is necessary for our survival. However, the road to that point might be more or less bumpy. On another note - the fossil record clearly speaks about this. Those materialistic darwinists might be the most eager to pray(pardon the pun).
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