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  1. #1 Common Sense Voices 
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    Common Sense Voices

    I claim that one cannot enter, for the first time, into the territory of some domains of knowledge while listening to common sense voices. Our common sense will immediately reject some facts because those facts are contrary to common sense.

    You must still these instinctive reactions because common sense knows nothing about many things. The physicist must still her common sense reaction at the results of some experiments regarding the inner working of the atom.

    The inner working of human nature can be as mysterious to common sense as is the inner reality of the atom.

    We can see only what we are prepared to see. Common sense does not prepare us to see many things. We have to creep up on certain matters and withhold judgment until we are intellectually sophisticated enough to judge their reality.


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    Common sense—the unreflective opinions of ordinary people


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    Quote Originally Posted by coberst
    Common Sense Voices

    I claim that one cannot enter, for the first time, into the territory of some domains of knowledge while listening to common sense voices. Our common sense will immediately reject some facts because those facts are contrary to common sense.
    That theory makes sense, but one criticism of it, is: If you are approaching with common sense, it would be common sense to not use your common sense, if that is the result.

    You must still these instinctive reactions because common sense knows nothing about many things. The physicist must still her common sense reaction at the results of some experiments regarding the inner working of the atom.
    Not so, because if studying atoms over a long period of time, the nature of them will become common to her as she is observing them quite often. Thus her common sense would function perfectly. If you are talking about her day to day common sense, then yes you are right. But what I know of physicists is that in ordinary lives, they don't perform so ordinarily. So common sense cannot be applied to their ordinary lives. I believe its important to establish that there are many forms of common sense, each in its own respect to be applied to where it is relavant.

    The inner working of human nature can be as mysterious to common sense as is the inner reality of the atom.
    Provided that common sense and the atom are self-aware and that they have a notion of common sense, reality, human nature and mystery.

    We can see only what we are prepared to see. Common sense does not prepare us to see many things. We have to creep up on certain matters and withhold judgment until we are intellectually sophisticated enough to judge their reality.
    To quote my father:

    "Expect, the unexpected".
    "If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe". - Carl Sagan
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    @coberst:
    This is not a very astonishing "discovery" that you found out not to follow every unwritten rule in your life. Technically you're saying that not everything that many people think or believe is necessarily right or true.
    Wow, what a big deal! :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind
    @coberst:
    This is not a very astonishing "discovery" that you found out not to follow every unwritten rule in your life. Technically you're saying that not everything that many people think or believe is necessarily right or true.
    Wow, what a big deal! :P
    I think that you misunderstood my post. I am saying that it is common for people to reject something because their unreflective opinion does not agree with whatever they are judging.
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    [quote="425 Chaotic Requisition"]
    Quote Originally Posted by coberst

    That theory makes sense, but one criticism of it, is: If you are approaching with common sense, it would be common sense to not use your common sense, if that is the result.


    "Expect, the unexpected".
    Common sense is unreflective opinion and if we use it we will generally reject something that disagrees with it even though we know nothing about the matter.
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    @coberst:
    Well you can never be informed about everything thoroughly. A Mathematician can help you with Math, a psychologist in psychology and so on.
    I think everyone has a "common sense" since you don't reflect upon everything. You don't have the energy thinking about everything. So in regard to your specialized field of inverstigation and thus your world view, everyone has a different "common sense", but since there are many people who haven't specialized and are fulfilled with working at a McDonalds restaurant (which means they don't know anything really or thoroughly), the common sense is really a pretty unreflected opinion viewed from either side.
    Now a mathematician can influence a philosopher, a psychologist, a politician, and vice versa. Specialized people can share knowledge with each other, and everytime they meet they'll gain something. Now if you got two McDonalds-restaurant-worker, they won't gain anything from each other, or very little, since no one of them goes beyond the scope of their knowledge and nobody knows anything more to share with the other one. So they stay at the same level of information.
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