Thread: We need a new "language" to understand reality.

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This tread has been closed due to missunderstanding, and the possibility to explain what i meant in an easy way.


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Sorry for the inconvienience.

The symbols must be easy to understand, be interactive.
Both spoken language, and mathematics, are interactive, meaning that symbols put together give a meaning, that can be easily understood.

I do not want any off topic posts at all.

Every post has to revolve arround an effort to create a complete new language tool/system, that can be used by scientists, in their effort to solve the big questions of science.

For this to work, the symbols must be drawn in a paint/paintshop or any kind of paint program. And added here from a link to imageshack or similar.
Then that symbol are then described in here in what it mean, and its implication, and how it can interact with other symbols.

Important notice.

Each letter must be able to have a function of movement that can be visualized.
So when it later are gonna describe something in a system, it can be easily seen.

Rule 1.

It must be a predictible movement. Like how the particles in an atom works.
Meaning, it must not contain something, that interact with it. That is done by other symbols in the language. Those will be very specific in nature.

Rule 2.

This language is visual. Moving, describing in its nature letter by letter. It looks like quantum physics language, just as letters.

This language, is ment to be for understanding physics, to the smalles particles that ever exist in this universe.

Intro end.

This language is gonna be only written as moving symbols, and also there must be an option to move these letters arround, to make the information in the system more presise.
It could be this can only be done in a quantum commputer simmulation only, i dont know yet.
But it will sure be fun. And the more fun the less off topics, and the more on topic.

Enjoy

Lets begin, forward people. And dont get afraid, cus all we can end up with is either chaos, or order.

This tread need someone with physics background, and mathematics, artist, and softwaredesign.
That know the different particles and how they look, interact, their position, their strenght, their polarization etc.
Could that person help out in creating this language visual caracters.
And also we need all the known forces in nature, also visualized. This is important for this language, because without the interaction, it wouldnt be a language, but mear symbols.

Anyone..?

The software, must have the option to visualize all interactions, also it needs to be able to zoom in and out. As more and more complex systems arrive out from the language.
It can ofcourse be able to see things from different angles, and zoom in out accordingly from whatever possible situasion and angle.
Also it must be able to visualize from within and outwards, not only backward out, forward in.

I suspect the lack of response so far may be because other readers share this thought - "You have not yet demonstrated that a new language is required. You have not set out what the specific objectives of this language are." Perhaps if you could address these issues some positive responses might be generated.

Maybe you need a new language to explain what the hell you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Ophiolite

I suspect the lack of response so far may be because other readers share this thought - "You have not yet demonstrated that a new language is required. You have not set out what the specific objectives of this language are." Perhaps if you could address these issues some positive responses might be generated.

Well, i just started the tread so..


A new language is required, and bigtime. Cus i belive we humans are dipended much of visual things to understand something completly in realtime.
The objective of this language is simple and clear.
It is to make it much easier for layman as scientist, to see the interactions in nature, instead of trying to visualize it in the brain, as that is way hard in complex system.

Originally Posted by Harold14370

Maybe you need a new language to explain what the hell you are talking about.

I dont need to be insulted. And i am not, cus my intellect surpass my stupidity

This language will be expressed through scientists, via a computer software and to the public, as an easy & comprehencive visual language.

All the existing particles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_particles

The language is not written as ordenary language are, but are visualized in a 3d enviroment. The particles are placed in that enviroment so that the interaction amongst those particles can be seen in the visualization through a screen.
The forces in nature can also be visualized in that system, but since forces cant be seen directly physicly, they must be interactions, so it is possible to read the language.
Also each interactions need to have ordenary language in the virtualization, so one can understand what force it is talking about in the perticular visual system, on that specific point, where the interaction happens.


The gravity, can be as in einsteins famous equation e=mc2, visualized as destortion of spacetime. <--How does this look in 3d?

Weak neuclear force, can be visualized as something else. <--How do this look in 3d?

Strong neuclear force <--what would this look in 3d?

Electromagnetism <--what would this look in 3d?

Well, I applaud your enthusiasm and originality, but I am not convinced. The need for this new language may be obvious to you - big time - but it is not obvious to me. I might also be more convinced of your proposal if you could demonstrate that you know how to use existing languages properly.

Now I am aware that English is not your native language, but I have worked in Norway and with many Norwegians. Your written English is nowhere near the standard I know to be the average in Norway. Perhaps use of a spell checker at least, before you post, would help your readers grasp your intent a little better.