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  1. #1 Human advancement 
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    The current stage of our advancement, well, the present, is psychological dependent rather than being physically dependent. I've noticed that we, as a whole, have changed a lot. We have changed from being ruthless species of which only seek for the satisfaction of self, the over inflated ego, to the more considerate being.

    Prior to today's world, perhaps a few hundred years previous, we desired for nothing more than ourselves. However, a certain few; leaders of which, had taken advantage over the weaknesses found within. They would manipulate the consciousness through subconscious obedience; to form groups of individuals of who would behave loyal to a leader. People were near enough hive minds, they obeyed without question.

    However, those of who broken free, Liberians of who would have broken the conscious hive mind. They would have created the liberty to question upon ones existence and the environment around them.

    Anyway, if you observe our nature, you'll notice how we fought for self, taking advantage of those around ourselves. We created wars without question, we slaughtered ourselves and we had and well, still do, slaughter our predecessors.

    We've gone from the physical nature of self-ego towards the psychological state of dependent self-ego. I mean that by... we're more dependent psychological, searching for more techniques for our self-liberty. However, prior to today, we were more dependent upon our physical anatomy for survival, in which case, today, it's our psychological anatomy.

    However, even though we progressed, there was still hate. We didn't have to commit upon war physically, we still slaughtered each other ruthlessly. We had no reason if power was inevitable for self. Look at the previous leaders, such as; Hitler. He saw the power within his grasp, took it, in which case, he had no barriers of which would prevent him from slaughtering humanity. He would push for more power, he would continue to do so until he had everything he desired. This still exists within certain nations, nations of which are years behind our current status. These nations of which are both fascist and communist only seek the survival of satisfaction of self.

    Even though we've eliminated these issues within the western culture, the leaders of who are tolerant over it's societies and cultures, we still face certain ethical issues. Most have past, the hate upon 'homosexual' individuals has majorily become eliminated from within the human consciousness. However, other 'no you can't' or ethics within society are still present. A majority would see it was 'wrong' to feature distinct characteristics, to be self and to commit upon a sex change. They see it as 'wrong'. In this case, I predict that this will be eliminated upon the upcoming years throughout humanities evolution. I only hope to see the inappropriate conscious ego to become eliminated. I see... a society of which forbids hate rather than reason. I see... more educated humans rather than the desire for self-satisfaction. Throughout schools perhaps, kids would desire for more knowledge rather than 'fun', in which case, they would see fun as learning.

    However, this is our psychology evolving.

    We're becoming more and more dependent upon knowledge, using information constantly throughout our daily lives. We're dependent on the internet and news; knowledge in general.

    However, although we're becoming more and more dependent upon knowledge, the question is... will it exceed our mental capacity? Well, no. Life is adaptable. Since our psychological anatomy will become more and more dependent upon knowledge, it would adapt to these requirements, fulfilling them.

    The brain will begin to adapt to the requirements suggested from self; the desire for more memory, a larger index for more awareness within self; a stronger consciousness.

    I'll discuss more later on perhaps. Anyway, this was a thought I had for the moment, in which, I had thought it would be nice to share it to others throughout the world.


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    you are uninformed and perhaps a cult leader


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    Quote Originally Posted by ishmaelblues
    you are uninformed and perhaps a cult leader
    Hah, what makes you think that? (These are my ideas, not ideas of another)
    Basically, my idea suggests - If we became more dependent psychologically rather than physically, our biological anatomy of the brain would begin to innovate upon the requirement of our mind; the desire for more information, for more communication between memory; a stronger connection of neuron cells within the brain.
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    Prior to today's world, perhaps a few hundred years previous, we desired for nothing more than ourselves.

    simply not true
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishmaelblues
    Prior to today's world, perhaps a few hundred years previous, we desired for nothing more than ourselves.

    simply not true
    If not, then why were countless innocents slaughtered, why did Hitler commit slaughter upon foreigners.

    It is our desire for more. However, throughout our history, we did it through any method possible, mostly physical. Today, we mostly commit psychologically, seeking friends, leaving the odd one out, etc.

    Today - Psychological desire for self
    History - Physical desire for self
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    blue_87, the only problem I have with your thesis is that there is absolutely no substantive evidence for it and plenty of evidence against it. I am not sure when you think this transition occured. Was it before or after Pol Pot killed a third of the population of Cambodia, was it before or after the ethnic cleansing in Yugoslavia, was it before or after the 800,000 who died in Burundi? Was it before or after the slaighter of the Iran-Iraq war? I would just like to know when this miraculous change in human character is supposed to have taken place?
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    thank you Ophiolite, blue_space87, you are a child of 19th Century Victorean science and the culture attached to it, ofcourse we would like to think we have become less physical and increasingly psychological in our desires, this is simply not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_space87
    The current stage of our advancement, well, the present, is psychological dependent rather than being physically dependent. I've noticed that we, as a whole, have changed a lot. We have changed from being ruthless species of which only seek for the satisfaction of self, the over inflated ego, to the more considerate being.
    Unfortunately, I disagree with this, your basic premise.

    We were a ruthless species. That depends on how you define ruthless, which seems to involve caring about the self. Biologically, all that we have evolved to become has been in service of the self - in service of higher average reproductive success for our genes.

    But how that service expressed itself in humans has been through increased cooperation within the social group. Our selfish genes in fact do better when the human carrying them is less selfish towards his/her neighbors, when he/she enters into cooperative, empathetic, non-cheating relationships with the people around him/her. Does that sound ruthless to you?

    Yet on the other hand, that within group cooperation also came with between group competition - people who are not in our group are outsiders, are competitors, and violence between them has been common.

    As Ophiolite has pointed out, this pervasive behavior has been anything but expunged from humanity. In fact it is hard for us to avoid it, that is why there is so much hate for people who can be considered as outsiders, as threats.

    Yes, there are more people in this world than there used to be who consider a global community, who consider the cooperation of all people in the world to be the next step. This I believe is in thanks to the nature of culture, where new individuals born can learn within their lifetime from the mistakes made by individuals in the past. But there are SO many people in this world who have not reached that same conclusion.

    The brain will begin to adapt to the requirements suggested from self; the desire for more memory, a larger index for more awareness within self; a stronger consciousness.
    I also disagree with your conclusion, and you are clearly operating on a misunderstanding of how such physical changes in the brain occur. And yes, I do mean physical changes. All of our psychological plasticity can only go as far as the physical structure of our brains will allow. Simply desiring more memory and a "stronger consciousness" will NOT change our brain structure.

    The only way, aside from human intervention in our biology, that such changes will occur is if those individuals with slightly larger memory etc have more offspring than those with slightly smaller memory, and over time the population demographics would change.

    Unless you can prove that this is happening in the world today, you can in no way conclude that our brains will magically improve themselves.
    Man can will nothing unless he has first understood that he must count on no one but himself; that he is alone, abandoned on earth in the midst of his infinite responsibilities, without help, with no other aim than the one he sets himself, with no other destiny than the one he forges for himself on this earth.
    ~Jean-Paul Sartre
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