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  1. #1 Existence and math 
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    Could all of existence just be math? Numbers and patterns dividing, multipling, interweaving, ect?


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    Quote Originally Posted by randynewman666
    Could all of existence just be math? Numbers and patterns dividing, multipling, interweaving, ect?
    Math was a language created by ourselves. However, all existence is not all, it's infinite and thus; it is Math.

    To define upon Math: The number two would represent two instances, perhaps duplicates or two distinct entities within a given space. However, it doesn't have to be two, it could be six or 215325235, infinite (Not all, numbers go on and on and on... ) of which represents the amount of existences.

    So, theoretically yes, infinite existence can be numbers. I mean, we see numbers within crowds, numbers of people.



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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_space87
    ]Math was a language created by ourselves. However, all existence is not all, it's infinite and thus; it is Math.

    To define upon Math: The number two would represent two instances, perhaps duplicates or two distinct entities within a given space. However, it doesn't have to be two, it could be six or 215325235, infinite (Not all, numbers go on and on and on... ) of which represents the amount of existences.

    So, theoretically yes, infinite existence can be numbers. I mean, we see numbers within crowds, numbers of people.
    Whatever do you mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by randynewman666
    Could all of existence just be math? Numbers and patterns dividing, multipling, interweaving, ect?
    Is all consciousness language? All geography maps?

    No matter how robust a medium it does not own what it describes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong
    Quote Originally Posted by randynewman666
    Could all of existence just be math? Numbers and patterns dividing, multipling, interweaving, ect?
    Is all consciousness language? All geography maps?

    No matter how robust a medium it does not own what it describes.
    Why not? What if we dont give the human idea of math enough credit? Our left brain is naturaly built for math, why would that be if it wasnt some fundamental truth of the universe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by randynewman666
    Our left brain is naturaly built for math, why would that be if it wasnt some fundamental truth of the universe?
    Some parts of the brain apparently are built for pizza. What can it mean?

    Do you think a greater part of mind goes to conscious mathematics, or real-time calculating fluid dynamics when you use the toilet? Do those calculations employ numbers?
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    haha pizza? No, I dont think a "greater part of the mind" goes into conscious mathmatics when we flush the toilet, if we really tried I guess we could describe it in math. Couldnt the math be there whether we measured it or not? For example a hydrogen atom has 1 electron, add 1 electron its helium. Thats math, and its been like that way before we even existed. numbers are just a way for us to keep track of and communicate the truth beyond the symbols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randynewman666
    No, I dont think a "greater part of the mind" goes into conscious mathmatics when we flush the toilet, if we really tried I guess we could describe it in math.
    I meant the ...waters... falling into the toilet bowl, how it splashes. Or how a glass full of water sloshes as you carry it across a room. See, we understand this incredibly complex ...branch of physics if we must own it so. Possibly no genius alive could set on paper those calculations so completely as a toddler does "just naturally".

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    Couldnt the math be there whether we measured it or not?
    Well, does a tree contain the (English) word "tree", even if we never see the tree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong
    Quote Originally Posted by randynewman666
    No, I dont think a "greater part of the mind" goes into conscious mathmatics when we flush the toilet, if we really tried I guess we could describe it in math.
    I meant the ...waters... falling into the toilet bowl, how it splashes. Or how a glass full of water sloshes as you carry it across a room. See, we understand this incredibly complex ...branch of physics if we must own it so. Possibly no genius alive could set on paper those calculations so completely as a toddler does "just naturally".

    Quote Originally Posted by randynewman666
    Couldnt the math be there whether we measured it or not?
    Well, does a tree contain the (English) word "tree", even if we never see the tree?
    Your first point is obviouse. The second point is obviouse too, I did say "numbers are just a way for us to keep track of and communicate the truth beyond the symbols." letters count as symbols too. A tree is not the word "tree" in reality but a tree is a pattern of atoms(math). What im saying is couldnt the unlabled math be there whether we figure it out or not? Of course man made measurments wouldnt apply to this like inches or feet, but math dealing with things that exist in nature like atoms.
    Science is a way of thinking much more than it is a body of knowledge. - Carl Sagan
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