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    Universal Mind

    I started this post so that others can become aware of the existence of a
    Universal Mind. In other words, the spiritual connectivity of all our feeling.
    I will start by describing the links I have witnessed to prove to my
    satisfaction that a Universal Mind exists.

    When I was about 9 or 10 years old, my father came home from work holding
    his side and appearing to be in great pain. So, one of my older siblings had
    my father taken to a hospital. It turned out that he had an attack of
    appendicitis.
    The link here is as follows: My fathers mothers name was Fanceska.
    My aunt living accross the street was named Francis. Her oldest daughter
    was named Francis (all above are deseased). The daughter had her first
    child delivered by caeasarean operation. This preceded my fathers attack
    of appendicitis.
    So I concluded that this was a spiritual link a couple of decades later.

    This coincidence does not necassarily convince most people.

    I kept this in mind for a number of years later.
    Than when I got a new job in a tool shop after a period of unemployment of a
    few of years, I was snag grinding and polishing (hand grinding and polishing)
    a 3/4 round guard cam that operates with a feed cam to move cutting tools.
    While polishing this cam on a SOFT polishing wheel, it grabbed the cam out
    of my hands and spun around and struck me in the right side of my abdomen.
    I rushed into the restroom to examine the damage. There was nothing
    serious but a large red welt. So, I went back to work.
    Now here is the clincher evidence that convinced me of the existence of the
    Universal mind.
    The next day my forman informed us he had an ABDOMINAL RUPTURE and
    our department was shut down for two weeks until he recovered.
    So, IMO, the Law of Probability refutes this as a coincidence.

    I noticed other such lesser coincidences to convince myself that a UM is a
    reality. I could include several others.

    Cosmo


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    So how does the UM work? What is the mechanism, the processes. Are we connected by "spiritons" that shoot out between people? So there is a cause and effect relationship between the daughters c-section and your dad's problem? How would you falsify your theory? So you use your experience and generalize to the whole world/universe? Also, I would love to analyze the mathmatical calculations you are talking about. The whole link with family names made me think of numerology(this is not good)This seems like a very fantastic idea to be convinced of with such sparse, coincidental evidence. . . . . .I don't know. . . overall, this all sounds utterly bogus to me.


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    I was once skimming through a statistics handbook. Finding most of it initially mind-boggling, I exclaimed "What?!” My friend across the room immediately came over and showed me the word "What" written in pencil in HIS book on the page he was busy with. Coincidence? I think not!sorry for the sarcasm

    You seem to suggest that, instead of an overlooking mind/god, we are in fact all part of this mind? Do you have any evidence other than what most people would describe as coincidence?
    Disclaimer: I do not declare myself to be an expert on ANY subject. If I state something as fact that is obviously wrong, please don't hesitate to correct me. I welcome such corrections in an attempt to be as truthful and accurate as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist
    So how does the UM work? What is the mechanism, the processes. Are we connected by "spiritons" that shoot out between people? So there is a cause and effect relationship between the daughters c-section and your dad's problem? How would you falsify your theory? So you use your experience and generalize to the whole world/universe? Also, I would love to analyze the mathmatical calculations you are talking about. The whole link with family names made me think of numerology(this is not good)This seems like a very fantastic idea to be convinced of with such sparse, coincidental evidence. . . . . .I don't know. . . overall, this all sounds utterly bogus to me.
    From a scientific point of view, we do radiate electromagnetic waves since our nervous systems are electrical carriers of this energy as well as our brains.

    I could cite more evidence but that involves personal psychic phenomenon that science seems to reject.

    Their are psychic detectives that have solved cases that the police had been stumped for a solution.

    There are proven cases of young children recalling their past life where they cited the neigborhood and parents that were investigated and proven to be factual.

    So I am a believer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER
    I was once skimming through a statistics handbook. Finding most of it initially mind-boggling, I exclaimed "What?!” My friend across the room immediately came over and showed me the word "What" written in pencil in HIS book on the page he was busy with. Coincidence? I think not!sorry for the sarcasm

    You seem to suggest that, instead of an overlooking mind/god, we are in fact all part of this mind? Do you have any evidence other than what most people would describe as coincidence?
    What you describe above is convincing enough to convince you.

    See my reply to Rationalist above.

    Yes, there is what some people call their 'guardian angel'.

    But it seems we are all controlled to a much greater degree by the power faction and material world.
    These spiritual or subconsciouse influeces play a small role in our lives with the exception of our religious indoctrinations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo
    From a scientific point of view, we do radiate electromagnetic waves since our nervous systems are electrical carriers of this energy as well as our brains.
    is there any proof for this claim ?
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo
    So, IMO, the Law of Probability refutes this as a coincidence.
    What law of probability are you referring to?
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    From a scientific point of view, we do radiate electromagnetic waves since our nervous systems are electrical carriers of this energy as well as our brains.

    I could cite more evidence but that involves personal psychic phenomenon that science seems to reject.

    Their are psychic detectives that have solved cases that the police had been stumped for a solution.

    There are proven cases of young children recalling their past life where they cited the neigborhood and parents that were investigated and proven to be factual.

    So I am a believer.

    Cosmo
    Wow, I have to say that I wasn't expecting you to start talking about psychics and past lives. . . . I must have falsely assumed that you had some healthy skepticism, and a respect for conventional science. This thread has just put itself under scrutiny for consideration in the pseudoscience arena.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo
    From a scientific point of view, we do radiate electromagnetic waves since our nervous systems are electrical carriers of this energy as well as our brains.
    is there any proof for this claim ?
    You are aware of the electro/magnetic interactions between these forces, right?

    An example of this is the repulsive effects of the gasses. These are EM interactions.

    However, our minds can interpret these radiations from the many sources surrounding us.

    That is the best way I can explain this phenomenon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serpicojr
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo
    So, IMO, the Law of Probability refutes this as a coincidence.
    What law of probability are you referring to?
    There are a number of mathematical formulas that deal with probabilities.

    Such as predicting the stock market trends,
    Planetary likelyhoods of life,
    Evaluating statistical diseases,
    Determining the odds in card games or dice,

    And so one can also determine the probabilty of coincidental events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist
    From a scientific point of view, we do radiate electromagnetic waves since our nervous systems are electrical carriers of this energy as well as our brains.

    I could cite more evidence but that involves personal psychic phenomenon that science seems to reject.

    Their are psychic detectives that have solved cases that the police had been stumped for a solution.

    There are proven cases of young children recalling their past life where they cited the neigborhood and parents that were investigated and proven to be factual.

    So I am a believer.

    Cosmo
    Wow, I have to say that I wasn't expecting you to start talking about psychics and past lives. . . . I must have falsely assumed that you had some healthy skepticism, and a respect for conventional science. This thread has just put itself under scrutiny for consideration in the pseudoscience arena.
    Religion does involve the hearing of voices and existence of spirits, does it not?

    The Jewish (YHWH) and Islam (Allah) are the main examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obviously
    As long as there's a possibility something can happen, it can happen.
    So the second law of thermodynamics is invalid?

    I mean, you can have a net decrease in the entropy of an isolated system, do you think?
    See my physics of spaceflight simulator at http://www.relspace.astahost.com

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    Cosmo, I noticed Rationalist's comments about the thread heading for the pseudoscience forum and decided I had best take a look at it wearing my mod hat.
    Rest easy, it can stay where it is. Your suggestions are no more or less bizarre (and no better substantiated) than those made in support of conventional religions in this subforum.

    Personally, the examples you gave were, in my view, not just like a drowning man clutching at straws, but clutching at wholly imaginary straws.
    Currently in the US around 25% of births are by C-section. I'll assume the relatives birth you are referring to occured some years ago when the percentage was lower. Let's say 10%. Since any individual male will approximately have four and a half close female relatives (mother, wife, 0.5 sister, 0.5 aunt, 0.5 sister-in-law) each of whom will have given birth to two children, the chances are very high that at least one of those relatives will have had at least one birth by C-section.
    Coincidence all the way and not a very remarkable coincidence at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchellmckain
    So the second law of thermodynamics is invalid?

    I mean, you can have a net decrease in the entropy of an isolated system, do you think?
    Well, is that a possibility?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo
    From a scientific point of view, we do radiate electromagnetic waves since our nervous systems are electrical carriers of this energy as well as our brains.
    is there any proof for this claim ?
    The human body produces magnetic fields that can be measured using SQUIDS (supraconducting quantum interference devices) but they ARE miniscule in comparison to the earth's magnetic field, if I remember correctly in the order of nano-Tesla.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obviously
    Quote Originally Posted by mitchellmckain
    So the second law of thermodynamics is invalid?

    I mean, you can have a net decrease in the entropy of an isolated system, do you think?
    Well, is that a possibility?
    Technically yes, but physicists generally equate odds that are like 10^100 (that is a 1 followed by 100 zeros) to 1 against (or worse) to be equivalent to an impossiblity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twaaannnggg
    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo
    From a scientific point of view, we do radiate electromagnetic waves since our nervous systems are electrical carriers of this energy as well as our brains.
    is there any proof for this claim ?
    The human body produces magnetic fields that can be measured using SQUIDS (supraconducting quantum interference devices) but they ARE miniscule in comparison to the earth's magnetic field, if I remember correctly in the order of nano-Tesla.
    Thanks for the info, but the comparison to the physical realm is not valid because intelligence is only descernable by the variations of these radiations.

    There are millions of these EM radiations but the frequencies and magnitude variations require/need the special devices (radios) for the commercial messages but our brains can recieve the human radiations very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchellmckain
    Technically yes, but physicists generally equate odds that are like 10^100 (that is a 1 followed by 100 zeros) to 1 against (or worse) to be equivalent to an impossiblity.
    Then I rest my case
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