Thread: is gravity "system wind"?

If we all take our heads out of this great and wonderful "thunder box" (excuse the pun.......we've made it that way, though, right?) we live in, could it be true that, with all things considered, "gravity" is the primary "cause" of the effect we know as wind?

What would happen for instance to "dust" in space........?

Would it be attracted to a "Planet" and represent a type of flowing windy landscape of any such an atmospherical (as it would seem to life-forms on that rock) "thing"?

well, according to newtons laws, the "dust", without outside influence would start attracting eachother, until they formed some sort of ball.

keep in mind that the earth is a big lump of iron, with a crust of rocks, and 2 gas layer shells,
water, and air.(i like to think about gas as a type of thinned out liquid, and vice-versa)

wind is a wave moving through a gas. its similar to a wave in water.
i dont know any details, but from what i see, the centrifugal force of the earths motion, along with the pull of the moon contribute to the winds on earth, and the mountains, and temperature contributes to the movement of air.
a bit of difference in temperature is enough to create winds.
since hot air will naturally rise, and cold air will sink, you get winds.

OK.

I agree.

But the thing I was trying to highlight is that a massive amount of particles attracted to a big mass, like a planet, air particles, dust, and so on, would end up as a big pressurised whirling chaos we know as wind, of course with general patterns of disturbance.

Wind, and this was my point, ultimately is a result of "gravity".

Now, if that is the case, should then disturbances in the gravity field associated to the planet be equated into weather forecasting?

I know, a little pointless to discuss that in a relatively standard gravity field system on this planet, but does science teach the idea that wind is ultimately a result of gravity?

If not, then what else has science failed to properly teach?

.....ps......We're told that wind is primarily due to differences in temperature, and if so, is gravity also ultimately related to "heat".........to also maybe the background heat of the system where all celestial bodies just seem to fall into "Place"?

If I can add this, in doing the math, if wind ultimately is the result of gravity, the heat we measure wind associated to is actually a result, would actually, be a result of the varying amounts of pressure exerted by gravity.

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gravity does add to heat.
the simple answer to why, is because of airpressure. gravity pulls air down to the earth, creating higher airpressure, and higher air temperature,
at the lowest levels. higher up, the airpressure is far less dense,
and therefore its a lot colder.

Can I now award titles?

thinking a bit more about it... yeah, you're right, gravity does directly affect wind.
gravity exerts pull on the air. air with less energy (cold air) are pulled further down by gravity than higher energy hot air. thus we have the airpressure differences, and wind, directly influenced by gravity.
right there in front of your very nose :P

oh and basically the reason we even have an atmosphere with winds,
is because our earths gravity is strong enough to hold an athmosphere.

(this is from another post I answered, but I think it is relevant to this post as well).......

Just quickly, let me propose what some Churches and associated faiths might find interesting about "time" and the relevance of science to a possible "immortal being".

OK.......through the eyes of the Saint, there is an immortal being. This being is meant to represent all time and space, yet would according to our perception exist only in our own current time dimension.

Now, this is the thing.........according to that immortal being, time would exist before this NOW zone we live in, and ahead of this NOW zone we live in. Time, to that immortal, as faith would understand it, would represent two tracks, one of the past, the other of the future, and yet for us in the "present", another track that cuts it. There would be two false times, before and after, two "snakes" so to speak, and one time that cuts it, the NOW zone we live in.

Time like space would have three dimensions.........

I could go on about how space would be regarded by the immortal, but maybe I should wait for someone to sake me about sails (ship sails, two dimensional constructs, that catch wind to produce the third dimension of volume).

Mmmmm: two snakes and a sword..........sounds like a caduceus.

Remember, this is how science would make sense to the immortal.

Now, continue with your science chat.


Now, gravity, like wind, is the "3rd" and all important dimension of the sail of space. It is what cuts it. As we know, a theory of gravuitty relevant to light is what we are all searching for............to any lifeform in space, we would be able to cut it if we made that grade. It might be as simple as reading a book...........or at least putting up with that author.