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  1. #1 My theory of one of the folios within the Voynich Manuscript. 
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    This relates to the 9 circles of hell from Dante's Inferno:

    Go to Voynichman Black Duck is a hater



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomeoneil View Post
    Go to Voynichman

    One more time: if you have a point to make then do it here.

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    Wrong again, but you can a day off for messing about with moderation.


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  4. #3 Voynich Manuscript f1r in Latin 
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    My theory of the first 4 words of the Voynich Manuscript is:

    Pacis itae ar Italus

    Treaty Jupiter Mars of Italy:

    Here am speaking of it on youtube in a video with an entire first paragraph in Latin very ugly Latin indeed:

     

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    What is the evidence that supports your "theory"?

    Moved - appended to previous thread on the topic.
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  6. #5 Voynich Manuscript Playfair Cipher - Wilfrid Hoaxed the VMS 
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    https://youtu.be/Nq0Gs6YKWGM


    Voynich Manuscript Playfair Cipher, Hi my name is Tom O'Neil and sorry to say, but the Voynich Manuscript is a hoax. First obvious reasons. The VMS contains a Galaxy, Sunflowers, Armadillo and a Sea Horse. Nope the VMS is not from the Nautal Language either.



    What I found was the manuscript contains words from several languages. Wilfrid Voynich learned many languages in his life. He had access to old parchment and thats why the art work is terrible. He was a lousy artist.



    Wilfrid luckily escaped from Siberia. He witnessed The Great Comet of 1910 and f68r3 hints with images and words using the cipher of a Comet. Voynich Authored the document on parchment circa 1404-1438 in 1910!

    Playfair Cipher
     

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    how aqbout presenting the evidence HERE!!! as you have been told to do a myriad of times.

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    I just published a book on Amazon KDP with the title, "Voynich Morse Code Stenography Cipher", which focuses on a unique cipher I created via Morse Code Stenography. It should be available in a couple days. Here is the preface and a couple images. The book is roughly 50 pages long and describes my methodology, why the fraud case, history, provenance and Andromeda. The language of the Voynich is Italian.

    For those who wish to know what the most common word in the voynich is

    daiin from eva:

    The italian word is: sta

    meaning; be, stay, stand

    ... - .-
    Convert morse code to text - Converters



    Preface

    This subject regarding the Voynich Manuscript (VMS) has plagued my mind since 2008 when I first discovered it online. I have tried so many options with figuring out what language and cipher is at the heart of its inner workings. Likewise, I admit I have published several books about its content and honestly I stated that I believed I had solved the VMS. Deep down, I began to feel more had to be done by me because the cipher I produced could not be replicated by others. Also at the time I really believed that the VMS’s text was created in the 15th Century. However, I have come full circle and this cipher which I created has found evidence to the contrary of the texts time of creation; furthermore I have found its provenance with it. The angst I have felt over the years of feelings of failure have been sidelined by this unique way of decoding the text.

    Forward, on how I came up with the idea to use Morse code as a stenography cipher; I began thinking out of the box by scanning pictures of the actual text and then turning them into .wav files, so that a Morse code decoder program could pick out the text. This idea was done out of the thought that the VMS was produced by alien beings and I know this is funny! After focusing and totally realizing I was wrong about that method, it did shed light on my invention of the cipher to decode the VMS.

    As it turned out my thoughts then zeroed in to what if Wilfrid Voynich has hoaxed us all by actually using stenography and the encoding was Morse code. What is odd about the pictures in the VMS is there are a few anomalies regarding time and origin of some of the images for Europe in the 15th century. Take for instance f68v3 as it appears to be the Andromeda galaxy and no telescopes were around to observe this. Then there is the sunflower on page f33v which was in the America’s at the time. Furthermore, on page f80v a Pangolin is evident which is from Asia. In addition, f33v a root resembles the microscopic structure of a marine organism. Then there’s the jigsaw puzzle root on f27v and jigsaw puzzles came out in 1760 by John Spilsbury a London engraver. The image of 69r resembles Carter’s diatom. Lastly the art work is sloppy!

    With all the research that has been put into figuring out if the VMS is actually a language and not gibberish; the research algorithms have suggested it is a language but what language? My cipher has pinned down Italian as its language. Let’s take a look at what I have to offer and here as an explanation why I think this way.




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    I just decoded the weird pregnant woman on the first glyph of the folio 42v. The dots in loops is indicative of a voynich morse code stenography cipher.

    https://www.jasondavies.com/voynich/...426/0.106/4.40


     

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    Folio 49r Teste roma giuoco per le gente ade





    The folio translates to: (Witness Rome game for the people (hell or Hades)). I guess the serpent really added the kicker here for the author. After all Satan transformed himself into a serpent in the Garden of Eden. The Romans adored Hades!
    What is interesting to me was if this is referring to the Coliseum Wilfrid was using English grammar to write in Italian. I believe Wilfrid authored MS-408, because the writing style of Italian follows the English language grammatically!
    Whilst in Siberia, Voynich acquired a working knowledge of eighteen different languages, albeit not well.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfrid_Voynich
    https://brbl-zoom.library.yale.edu/viewer/1006170
    https://www.wordreference.com/
    https://onlinetexttools.com/convert-morse-to-text
    - . ... - . ....... .-. --- -- .- ....... --. .. ..- --- -.-. --- ....... .--. . .-. ....... .-.. . ....... --. . -. - . ....... .- -.. .


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    Folio 77r otol translates to AriA:
    After really focusing in on the meaning for otol and looking at the hidden word in the circle of the pipe. I was astonished to see that the author was actually giving something away to us as decoders. If one looks at it for a while knowing the scribe was working in a tiny space, he was relating AriA to us which translates to "air".


    https://www.wordreference.com/enit/air


    https://brbl-zoom.library.yale.edu/viewer/1006212


    https://www.jasondavies.com/voynich/...535/0.082/5.00


    https://onlinetexttools.com/convert-text-to-morse
     

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    This forum is NOT your personal blog.
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    Dywyddyr You really have an axe to grind with me, I'm just posting something of real interest here. It does show with about close to 800 reads. This is good information to relate. You did say if I wanted to post more on the subject matter regarding the VMS that I could do it here.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomeoneil View Post
    I'm just posting something of real interest here.
    Given the lack of response I'd suggest that you're mistaken.
    It does show with about close to 800 reads.
    Probably because people are looking to see if you've posted anything substantive - which so far you haven't done.
    This is good information to relate.
    No it's not.
    See post #6 - what EVIDENCE do you have?
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    Dywyddyr, maybe abstraction to real code is to much for you. Step back and look over the work. I know this is the most serious cipher anyone has gone up against and so give it time. There will be more down the road. Just because people are not posting on this topic here does not negate interest in my work. You make many assumptions Dywyddyr.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomeoneil View Post
    Dywyddyr, maybe abstraction to real code is to much for you.

    Nope.
    Just because people are not posting on this topic here does not negate interest in my work.
    The lack of posts shows a LACK of interest, not a "negation".
    You make many assumptions

    Wrong: the assumption is yours.
    Still waiting for that evidence...
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    Youtube Vid explanation of my Voynich Morse Code Stenography Cipher Research





    I would like you all out there to attempt to decode folio 49r within the two snakes from dots to dashes to Italian. I wish to run a test to see how many people get the same interpretation, then I would say after so many translations then we can run some statistics to see if what I'm doing does make some sense to the world. Go ahead and use my nulls or not but I suggest you do. Its up to you.


    Voynich Morse Code Stenography Cipher starts of with several folios decoded then take a look around the world for meaning to the vords and word within the VMS.
    Finally at the end we decode Acqua together from folio 77r. A sentence in Italian was actually found by translating from Morse Code to Italian which translates to, "Witness Rome game for the people Hades".
    Teste Roma Giuoco per le gente ade



     

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    Which part of "This forum is not your blog" did you not understand?
    Which part of the request for evidence did you not understand?
    See you in 3 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Which part of "This forum is not your blog" did you not understand?
    Which part of the request for evidence did you not understand?
    See you in 3 days.
    Looks like I found evidence Dywyddr:

     

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    Made up crap - and you're still blogging.
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    This should blow everyone's minds:

    ]Walt Whitman folio 1r from MS-408





    Walt Whitman was born May 31, 1819. He was an American poet intrigued with pragmatism, transcendentalism, and realism.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoPpChNurTg






     

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    are you seriously asserting morse code is involved? woooowwwwwwwww
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    And locked.
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