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  1. #1 Time is gravity 
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    Gravity is currently thought of in general relativity as the curvature of space time by matter. However, we are not focusing on why this happens. I believe that time is pushing us moment to moment into another 4th demensional universe at the speed of light, with a boost from the past due to a Venturi effect. Otherwise we would be stuck in this moment unable to change. This accounts for all forces for different reasons. As time moves mass forward from all sides, it carries space time through to the next moment and leaves a void creating outer space time in the next moment while leaving a void within the past. This result is gravity. The future is receiving a Venturi effect of spacetime which pushes the galaxies further apart. As we speed up, we are catching up to the speed of time so it's effects are slower to an observer. Objects with less mass do not draw time in the same moments as larger mass objects so quantum particles can appear as if. From nowhere. The strong force defeats time between nuclei protons until they act as one. Electromagnetic forces may ride these time waves and become polarized due to the Venturi effect. Or not...I meen it's just a theory.


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    Pure word salad...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesla333 View Post
    I meen it's just a theory.
    No it's not.
    It's a wild unsupported speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesla333 View Post
    Or not...
    Yep. I think you've nailed it.
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    Is gravity really thought of in general relativity as a curvature in space time matrix? I thought gravity was already well defined by classical physics? So does this mean that Einstein redefined gravity?

    I thought we exist already in these dimensions, how would be pushed further into one dimension or another, this doesn't make any sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndresKiani View Post
    Is gravity really thought of in general relativity as a curvature in space time matrix?
    Yes.

    I thought gravity was already well defined by Newtonian physics? So does this mean that Einstein redefined gravity?
    Yes, but Newtonian gravity is still good enough for most applications, GR gives the same (or better) results as Newtonian gravity (look up precession of Mercury which is predicted correctly by GR but not be Newton) the maths is just a lot more complicated so Newtonian gravity is used where it is a good approximation, and GR is used where Newtonian gravity breaks down.

    I thought we exist already in these dimensions, how would be pushed further into one dimension or another, this doesn't make any sense to me.
    None of the OP makes any sense, at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post

    None of the OP makes any sense, at all.

    Indeed.

    The venturi effect is where gases or fluids are made to speed up through a restriction and their pressure is reduced. What has that got to do with the vacuum of space, and how does it create a force between our planet and our sun to hold us in orbit around it?

    Reminds me of a friend of a friend who kept on about 'mystical' aspects of human consciousness and talked about 'resonance' and 'frequency' without having a clue what these terms actually referred to.

    Tesla333, this is a science forum, you need to find a woo forum for your nonsense.

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  10. #9 Allow time to haphazardly explain my nonsense 
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    [QUOTE=One beer;575733]
    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post

    None of the OP makes any sense, at all.

    Indeed.

    The venturi effect is where gases or fluids are made to speed up through a restriction and their pressure is reduced. What has that got to do with the vacuum of space, and how does it create a force between our planet and our sun to hold us in orbit around it?

    Reminds me of a friend of a friend who kept on about 'mystical' aspects of human consciousness and talked about 'resonance' and 'frequency' without having a clue what these terms actually referred to.

    Tesla333, this is a science forum, you need to find a woo forum for your nonsense.

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    ok I remember when a water pump (I thought it was called a Venturi pump) took pressure to empty a sump in a leaking ship and its output was more volume and less pressure and it would remove water with water.
    I think it could be possible there would be residual time in order to account for the antigravity effects as seen by galaxies accelerating apart aka dark matter.
    it is strange that dark matter accounts for 80 percent of the universe and yet still no proof past theory, therefore why not other possibilities. Wouldn't matter exist by itself in 3 dimensional vaccuum without warping its space? It's not until we introduce time does this warping take place?
    And with time comes the realization of forces that can act through time...perhaps even by time. Take time away and nothing could or would happen or change.
    it seems a real enough thing to imagine and it keeps with all things moving at exclusive off times and our slow perseptions see everything happening together although its all just a jumble of off times.
    go easy on me I'm just trying to make sense of it all, and probably everyone here is smarter than me. No need to bash people just having an honest interest in this stuff. We should at least be somewhat supportive, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesla333 View Post
    I think it could be possible there would be residual time in order to account for the antigravity effects as seen by galaxies accelerating apart aka dark matter.
    Dark matter has a normal gravitational effect, not anti-gravity.

    it is strange that dark matter accounts for 80 percent of the universe and yet still no proof past theory
    Dark matter is about 23% of the universe. As for "proof" (I assume you mean evidence) then that is the orbits of galaxy clusters, orbits of stars in galaxies, gravitational lensing, and other more indirect things.

    Wouldn't matter exist by itself in 3 dimensional vaccuum without warping its space? It's not until we introduce time does this warping take place?
    That doesn't make much sense. It is space-time that is curved by the presence of mass (and felt as gravity).
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    No need to bash people just having an honest interest in this stuff. We should at least be somewhat supportive, eh?
    No one has bashed you, simply pointed out your idea is a random string of words that does not make sense, it is your idea that was bashed, not you - that's what happens in science... If you are interested take a class, read a book, ask questions and you will find people here very supportive, don't just make stuff up that makes no sense, that is very annoying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by One beer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post

    None of the OP makes any sense, at all.

    Indeed.

    The venturi effect is where gases or fluids are made to speed up through a restriction and their pressure is reduced. What has that got to do with the vacuum of space, and how does it create a force between our planet and our sun to hold us in orbit around it?

    Reminds me of a friend of a friend who kept on about 'mystical' aspects of human consciousness and talked about 'resonance' and 'frequency' without having a clue what these terms actually referred to.

    Tesla333, this is a science forum, you need to find a woo forum for your nonsense.

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    ok I remember when a water pump (I thought it was called a Venturi pump) took pressure to empty a sump in a leaking ship and its output was more volume and less pressure and it would remove water with water.
    I think it could be possible there would be residual time in order to account for the antigravity effects as seen by galaxies accelerating apart aka dark matter.
    it is strange that dark matter accounts for 80 percent of the universe and yet still no proof past theory, therefore why not other possibilities. Wouldn't matter exist by itself in 3 dimensional vaccuum without warping its space? It's not until we introduce time does this warping take place?
    And with time comes the realization of forces that can act through time...perhaps even by time. Take time away and nothing could or would happen or change.
    it seems a real enough thing to imagine and it keeps with all things moving at exclusive off times and our slow perseptions see everything happening together although its all just a jumble of off times.
    go easy on me I'm just trying to make sense of it all, and probably everyone here is smarter than me. No need to bash people just having an honest interest in this stuff. We should at least be somewhat supportive, eh?
    The problem with these kinds of ideas is without serious education, probably equivalent to a masters degree or phd, you can't really come up with a theory. You can't understand all the ideas well enough. With a decent level of familiarity at an undergraduate level or if you are really, really smart and perceptive, you might come up with a reasonable idea. And such an idea could be right. But if you came up with a personal hypothesis without really understanding the field adequately, there's going to be a lot of luck involved if you do make an accurate hypothesis.

    Thing is, you'd probably have to pursue professional education in order to learn if your proposal could be correct. And though I have little experience with graduate schools myself, I would imagine by the time most people have gone through such a program, they will have abandoned the bizarre personal ideas they came in with.
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    ok I remember when a water pump (I thought it was called a Venturi pump) took pressure to empty a sump in a leaking ship and its output was more volume and less pressure and it would remove water with water.
    Yes. Also known as jet pumps. They have no moving parts and use fluid under pressure to create a suction and flow to move more fluid out than is put in. We have them in our aircraft fuel tanks. Nothing whatsoever to do with the force of gravity in the universe, as far as I know.

    go easy on me I'm just trying to make sense of it all, and probably everyone here is smarter than me. No need to bash people just having an honest interest in this stuff. We should at least be somewhat supportive, eh?
    There is nothing wrong with thinking, imagination and coming up with ideas, I have done it myself. However, you do need at least a basic understanding of science when posting such ideas on a science forum. You are mixing terms and ideas and don't seem to understand what those terms mean or how they physically work. Rather than stating ideas, it is better to ask questions, (and be prepared to be referred to wikipedia).

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