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    I am planning an expedition to the north pole to confirm once and for all the presence/absence of an entrance to the Inner Earth. Any advice, save for insults at believing in the theory of the hollow Earth, are welcome. Any who wish to be a part of this expedition may PM me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    I am planning an expedition to the north pole to confirm once and for all the presence/absence of an entrance to the Inner Earth. Any advice, save for insults at believing in the theory of the hollow Earth, are welcome. Any who wish to be a part of this expedition may PM me.
    Is that the magnetic north pole or the point of axis? How big is this hole and won't it just fill with water? In which case it would be noticeable by the amount of steam being given off?


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    What is the difference between the entrance not existing and you not being able to find the entrance?
    If you fail to find the entrance to Inner Earth, will you say "It doesn't exist." or will you say "I need more time to find it." ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    I am planning an expedition to the north pole to confirm once and for all the presence/absence of an entrance to the Inner Earth. Any advice, save for insults at believing in the theory of the hollow Earth, are welcome. Any who wish to be a part of this expedition may PM me.
    Well you'll be looking in the wrong place. What makes you think the entrance to a "hollow Earth" lies at the North Pole in the first place?

    Everyone knows you have to teleport inside from the secret military base on the dark side of the moon.
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    The North Pole? I know the Arctic Ocean is shallow by the standards of the Pacific or the Atlantic, but how on earth do you propose to even get anywhere near there. The nearest land to the pole itself is on Svalbard or Greenland or Franz Josef Land or Canada. Look at this sea ice extent map to see what I mean.

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    I asked my teacher husband whether he'd ever had to deal with this hollow earth stuff from students. Not often, but he reckons he knows the problem. Most people who subscribe to this stuff have never really got the fact that gravity is related to the centre of stars and planets.

    The way they talk about it led him to the impression that they think of gravity as a phenomenon of the surface of an object. So that means that gravity is either irrelevant or weaker when you're getting towards the centre of the planet. Which makes room for notions like a hollow earth.
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    There is no way a Human can ever get into the entrance at the Noth Pole because Santa and his Elves guard it very fiercely.
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    Hollow Earth speculation:

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    First, I would recommend learning how to spell "expedition" in order to better your chances at securing funding. Second, I would become at least somewhat educated in basic physics and geoscience. Seeing as you apparently have no understanding of how Earth processes work, it will be hard to get a team together. Finally, don't forget your gloves.

    Best of luck to you. Take as long as you need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    I am planning an expedition to the north pole to confirm once and for all the presence/absence of an entrance to the Inner Earth. Any advice, save for insults at believing in the theory of the hollow Earth, are welcome. Any who wish to be a part of this expedition may PM me.
    You don't need to go, people have been there already and found no such cave/hole anywhere. Just read anything by scientists that have gone there and written reports about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    Best of luck to you. Take as long as you need.
    He will need a bit of luck since there is no land mass at the North Pole. But of course this intrepid explorer doesn't know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumaMan View Post
    He will need a bit of luck since there is no land mass at the North Pole.
    But that's what they want you to think!
    In fact, the entrance can be found at the centre of the cloaked alien city secretly secreted at the North Pole.
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    I live under the Earth's crust, and honestly, the reception of this audience sickens me. Santa and his elves do not guard the stairs, but one year an unfortunate tourist was gored to death by a rutting reindeer. Then, rumors began to spread, what was once a freak accident turned into a homicidal Santa tale. I would be more than happy to supply pictures, but I let Rudolph borrow my toaster/camera so he could take pictures of Hoffa's body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
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    I am planning an expedition to the north pole to confirm once and for all the presence/absence of an entrance to the Inner Earth. Any advice, save for insults at believing in the theory of the hollow Earth, are welcome. Any who wish to be a part of this expedition may PM me.
    Is that the magnetic north pole or the point of axis? How big is this hole and won't it just fill with water? In which case it would be noticeable by the amount of steam being given off?
    The theory states that gravity would actually be centered throughout the Earth's crust and so the water would simply flow around the brim of the entrance and along the interior walls of the earth giving earth an inner ocean of a sort.

    When referring to the "North Pole" I mean any where within the arctic circle in general. One report by admiral Byrd is it could be somewhere around, or above, the 80th parallel.

    As for the steam, I assume you are referring to when the ocean water would collide with Earth's magma. The truth is all magma that we have been able to study comes from within the Earth's crust. We have no confirmation that magma even exists below the crust, only hypothesis that it does or does not. Scientists have concluded that the Earth's core, for example, is very likely a massive iron crystal which gives off Earth's magnetic field. But this is again only an inference based on seismic wave measurements.

    According to Hollow Earth Theory, if the Earth is hollow there would be a temperature differentiation and some theorize that there would be steam but I believe that the temperature change in the water would be subtle. As though traveling from south to north trough the northern Atlantic but over a shorter distance.
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    Why isn't this crap in trash yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    Any advice, save for insults at believing in the theory of the hollow Earth, are welcome. Any who wish to be a part of this expedition may PM me.
    Sorry, but I can't help it. You can take this as an insult if you like: you are willfully ignorant.

    The chances of you going on an expedition are nil.

    And yes, why isn't this in the trash can. This is not belief in personal speculation, this is belief in the weird and stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    Light dawns.

    I asked my teacher husband whether he'd ever had to deal with this hollow earth stuff from students. Not often, but he reckons he knows the problem. Most people who subscribe to this stuff have never really got the fact that gravity is related to the centre of stars and planets.

    The way they talk about it led him to the impression that they think of gravity as a phenomenon of the surface of an object. So that means that gravity is either irrelevant or weaker when you're getting towards the centre of the planet. Which makes room for notions like a hollow earth.
    But you forget about the centripetal force of the planets rotation forcing all the mass outward. This would result I a hollow cavity on the interior crust or mantel (which ever turns out to be the under layer) of the earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    The theory states that gravity would actually be centered throughout the Earth's crust
    Then it already violates known physics.

    If you're going to deny accepted ideas you need to provide some logical reason why. Why not have Earth's gravity centered in the clouds? Why not have it centered in Cardiff?

    You're basing your entire premise on a falsity.
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    There is a lot of evidence against the hollow earth concept. Everything from mass calculations according to how Earth orbits the Sun to seismological recordings.

    If Earth was a hollow ball the gravitational forces would have crushed it like an eggshell long before now.

    Journey to The Center of the Earth might have been a good science fiction story, but it was not science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    But you forget about the centripetal force of the planets rotation forcing all the mass outward. This would result I a hollow cavity on the interior crust or mantel (which ever turns out to be the under layer) of the earth.
    She isn't forgetting anything. If the force of the Earth rotating were greater than the force of gravity, we would all fly off the surface. Again, your physics are broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    The North Pole? I know the Arctic Ocean is shallow by the standards of the Pacific or the Atlantic, but how on earth do you propose to even get anywhere near there. The nearest land to the pole itself is on Svalbard or Greenland or Franz Josef Land or Canada. Look at this sea ice extent map to see what I mean.

    This is an excellent question. The answer is I would need to charter passage on an icebreaker, preferably in the arctic summer to minimize risks of being trapped in the ice.

    I would know I had entered the hole because of a gyroscope much like those used in planes. Eventually it should end up more angled than it should be based on our position on the globe and I will know I am there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    First, I would recommend learning how to spell "expedition" in order to better your chances at securing funding.
    Yeah that typo is my bad. I didn't catch it before posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumaMan View Post
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    Best of luck to you. Take as long as you need.
    He will need a bit of luck since there is no land mass at the North Pole. But of course this intrepid explorer doesn't know that.
    I didn't say I was going to walk there. >_>
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    I would like someone to explain one thing to me. How do you all account for the shadow zones of earthquakes?

    One man created a model of the hollow Earth answering this. I want you to answer in a way that is less simple than the following diagram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    I would know I had entered the hole because of a gyroscope much like those used in planes.
    You mean you couldn't just look around to see if you've entered a hole? Are you blind? If so, I would reconsider this "trip" of yours. ("Expedition" is too intelligent for this discussion.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PumaMan View Post
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    I would know I had entered the hole because of a gyroscope much like those used in planes.
    You mean you couldn't just look around to see if you've entered a hole? Are you blind? If so, I would reconsider this "trip" of yours. ("Expedition" is too intelligent for this discussion.)
    Perspective would make it impossible to tell. The distance would be so great that the edge of the hole would blend into the horizon due to the curvature of the earth.
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    I'd like a breakdown of the scientific studies you're planning on conducting once you've reached the pole. Included in this, I would like a breakdown of the funding required and where you will be acquiring the monies. Having submitted NSF grant applications, your statement seems too weak to get funding from an actual agency so I'm assuming you're going to be soliciting individuals. This is all said under the single MASSIVE assumption that you're not just blowing smoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
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    I would know I had entered the hole because of a gyroscope much like those used in planes.
    You mean you couldn't just look around to see if you've entered a hole? Are you blind? If so, I would reconsider this "trip" of yours. ("Expedition" is too intelligent for this discussion.)
    Perspective would make it impossible to tell. The distance would be so great that the edge of the hole would blend into the horizon due to the curvature of the earth.
    Whatever. Bon Voyage there silverSea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
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    I would know I had entered the hole because of a gyroscope much like those used in planes.
    You mean you couldn't just look around to see if you've entered a hole? Are you blind? If so, I would reconsider this "trip" of yours. ("Expedition" is too intelligent for this discussion.)
    Perspective would make it impossible to tell. The distance would be so great that the edge of the hole would blend into the horizon due to the curvature of the earth.
    I don't know why I'm entering into a discussion with an obvious troll. Maybe I'm losing my mind . . .

    And no one has ever seen or photographed this HUGE hole before. I assume it's invisible from aircraft or space due to some sort of alien cloaking technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    I am planning an expedition to the north pole to confirm once and for all the presence/absence of an entrance to the Inner Earth.
    You don't need to go.
    A careful study of the available on-the-ground imagery will clearly confirm that there is no hole:





    Any advice, save for insults at believing in the theory of the hollow Earth
    So, basically, you're saying, "I'm immensely gullible but please don't mention it".
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    Also the disaster at Chernobyl released radioactive isotopes into the atmosphere that had a VERY specific signature. About two years later these were found in the ice in Antarctica. Ask any meteorologist and they will tell you that the northern and southern hemispheres almost never mix there air at all. This is what causes the doldrums along the equator. It should have been impossible to get that isotope down to the South Pole from Chernobyl and yet there it was. More than likely there is an entrance at both ends of the Earth and the isotope was carried along the winds through both entrances to the south pole and was deposited there.

    Also there is a certain type of gull that lives on the northern coasts of Europe yet in winter it flies north. Where is it going? No one can follow them at that time of year because the weather is too treacherous. And when they tagged the birds the signal disappeared until they returned south.
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    I think that one of the major problems with you organising and taking part in this mission is that, other than raising finance, you are entirely redundant.
    You have admitted elsewhere that you are not a scientist.

    This being the case, how would you recognise a hole if you saw one?
    You lack the necessary skills for a positive identification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumaMan View Post
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    I would know I had entered the hole because of a gyroscope much like those used in planes.
    You mean you couldn't just look around to see if you've entered a hole? Are you blind? If so, I would reconsider this "trip" of yours. ("Expedition" is too intelligent for this discussion.)
    Perspective would make it impossible to tell. The distance would be so great that the edge of the hole would blend into the horizon due to the curvature of the earth.
    I don't know why I'm entering into a discussion with an obvious troll. Maybe I'm losing my mind . . .

    And no one has ever seen or photographed this HUGE hole before. I assume it's invisible from aircraft or space due to some sort of alien cloaking technology.
    Nope you just can't perceive it from the ground with you eyes and those who believe that steam is coming off of the hole believe that it is obscured from space by a perpetual cloud cover. I personally have no definitive response to this theory at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    I think that one of the major problems with you organising and taking part in this mission is that, other than raising finance, you are entirely redundant.
    You have admitted elsewhere that you are not a scientist.

    This being the case, how would you recognise a hole if you saw one?
    You lack the necessary skills for a positive identification.
    I have said several times that I would be using gyroscopes to discern weather or not I have found it. I have also stated that the curvature of the Earth and size of the hole would make it difficult.

    All that being said, I do not deny that there might not be a hole. I am simply keeping an open mind. But even if there are no holes that does not automatically mean the Earth is not hollow. although often linked these are two separate theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    Also the disaster at Chernobyl released radioactive isotopes into the atmosphere that had a VERY specific signature. About two years later these were found in the ice in Antarctica. Ask any meteorologist and they will tell you that the northern and southern hemispheres almost never mix there air at all. This is what causes the doldrums along the equator. It should have been impossible to get that isotope down to the South Pole from Chernobyl and yet there it was. More than likely there is an entrance at both ends of the Earth and the isotope was carried along the winds through both entrances to the south pole and was deposited there.
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    This is almost painful to read. I've sat here for a couple minutes trying to figure out how to respond intelligently, but I honestly can't come up with anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    I have said several times that I would be using gyroscopes to discern weather or not I have found it.
    Yeah?
    How would you "use gyroscopes"?

    All that being said, I do not deny that there might not be a hole.
    There obviously is a hole: but not at the North pole -
    I am simply keeping an open mind.
    But even if there are no holes that does not automatically mean the Earth is not hollow.
    That's what I like to see: a public admission that you might be mistaken while grasping at as many straws as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    it is obscured from space by a perpetual cloud cover..
    Of course, in the 80+ years that we've been flying over the North Pole and the 40+ years that we've had satellites with cameras in space, no one has ever noticed this "perpetual cloud cover"?
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    Where do these people come from? Did they grow up next to that creation museum in Kentucky? Do they watch movies like this and believe them as fact: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049516/
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    If the Earth was hollow then the Earth's Crust would have to be about 4'000 miles thick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daecon View Post
    about 4'000 miles thick.
    I.e. about half the thickness of the average woowoo's skull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    I would like someone to explain one thing to me. How do you all account for the shadow zones of earthquakes?

    One man created a model of the hollow Earth answering this. I want you to answer in a way that is less simple than the following diagram.

    That isn't what the seismic reflection patterns look like.



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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    Any advice, save for insults at believing in the theory of the hollow Earth, are welcome.
    But the only possible response is to point out that this idea is moronic.

    Any who wish to be a part of this expedition may PM me.
    Why would anyone want to go anywhere with someone so deluded?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    I am simply keeping an open mind.
    So open that it seems your brain has fallen out.
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    Any who wish to be a part of this expedition may PM me.
    Nothing personal, but I'd rather be led into northern waters by Captain Edward Smith than you.
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    Hollow Earth "theory" is even dumber than Expanding Earth "theory". Jeez, where did these people go to school? The ignorance of geological proof to the contrary is mind boggling. Maybe RomanK is right and the US is decaying.
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    Any who wish to be a part of this expedition may PM me.
    Nothing personal, but I'd rather be led into northern waters by Captain Edward Smith than you.
    Good one!

    Maybe Captain Francesco Schettino will be free to pilot his ice breaker.
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    But you forget about the centripetal force of the planets rotation forcing all the mass outward. This would result I a hollow cavity on the interior crust or mantel (which ever turns out to be the under layer) of the earth.
    My cat knows more physics than you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    I would know I had entered the hole because of a gyroscope much like those used in planes. Eventually it should end up more angled than it should be based on our position on the globe and I will know I am there.
    I am curious what you think your compass would be doing at this point. Also, if you keep going, do you think you will end up walking around on the inside surface?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
    Any who wish to be a part of this expedition may PM me.
    If you get any volunteers for your expedition maybe you'd put in a good word for my Trip to Mars Project.

    What I'm planning on doing is to make a huge pile of earth, gradually building it higher by transporting material from the opposite side of the Earth.
    If we do that enough times we'll have "dug" Earth into Mars orbit.
    Then we can simply parachute down to Mars surface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    But you forget about the centripetal force of the planets rotation forcing all the mass outward. This would result I a hollow cavity on the interior crust or mantel (which ever turns out to be the under layer) of the earth.
    My cat knows more physics than you.
    Well that's not saying much. Everyone knows cats are the true experts when it comes to science.

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    Everyone knows cats are the true experts when it comes to science.
    This is because of their outstanding motivation. They have a purrpose in everything they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
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    Everyone knows cats are the true experts when it comes to science.
    This is because of their outstanding motivation. They have a purrpose in everything they do.
    My cat caught a mouse a few days ago. He was so proud. Made sure he left it right in the middle of the main traffic area. He's spent the days since then sitting right where he caught it, patrolling the area, completely silent.

    If I had his dedication, I'd be president by now.

    EDIT: Actually, that's not true as I'm not old enough...
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSea View Post
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    I would know I had entered the hole because of a gyroscope much like those used in planes.
    You mean you couldn't just look around to see if you've entered a hole? Are you blind? If so, I would reconsider this "trip" of yours. ("Expedition" is too intelligent for this discussion.)
    Perspective would make it impossible to tell. The distance would be so great that the edge of the hole would blend into the horizon due to the curvature of the earth.
    I don't know why I'm entering into a discussion with an obvious troll. Maybe I'm losing my mind . . .

    And no one has ever seen or photographed this HUGE hole before. I assume it's invisible from aircraft or space due to some sort of alien cloaking technology.
    Nope you just can't perceive it from the ground with you eyes and those who believe that steam is coming off of the hole believe that it is obscured from space by a perpetual cloud cover. I personally have no definitive response to this theory at this time.
    Any spot that had a consistent and perpetual cloud cover, would have been noted as soon as satellite imagery was started. The land masses of the arctic circle are all known. composite images of the ice cover of the article going back decades are also known. The physical evidence clearly shows that a hole is NOT present.
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    SilverSea, let's be clear on this:

    1. There is no polar hole.
    2. There is no evidence for a polar hole.
    3. There is lot of evidecen to demonstrate the non-existence of a polar hole.
    4. There is a plethora of physical theory that contradcits the possibility of a polar hole.
    5. No serious scientist has ever proposed the existence of a polar hole.
    6. Those proposing polar holes are nutcases, cranks, con-artists, or trolls.
    7. There is no frigging polar hole.

    If you persist to believe in the possibility of a polar hole these seem to be the only possible conclusions:
    1. You are a fool.
    2. You are an idiot. (They are different.)
    3. You are a troll.
    4. You are a con artist.
    5. You are mentally ill.

    I trust you are none of these and will promptly abandon this assinine plan in search of a non-existent feature based on delusional concepts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    SilverSea, let's be clear on this:

    1. There is no polar hole.
    2. There is no evidence for a polar hole.
    3. There is lot of evidecen to demonstrate the non-existence of a polar hole.
    4. There is a plethora of physical theory that contradcits the possibility of a polar hole.
    5. No serious scientist has ever proposed the existence of a polar hole.
    6. Those proposing polar holes are nutcases, cranks, con-artists, or trolls.
    7. There is no frigging polar hole.
    So, what you're saying is: the Illuminati did a really convincing cover up?
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    Exactly: the total lack of evidence JUST SHOW HOW POWERFUL THEY ARE!!1!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    SilverSea, let's be clear on this:

    1. There is no polar hole.
    2. There is no evidence for a polar hole.
    3. There is lot of evidecen to demonstrate the non-existence of a polar hole.
    4. There is a plethora of physical theory that contradcits the possibility of a polar hole.
    5. No serious scientist has ever proposed the existence of a polar hole.
    6. Those proposing polar holes are nutcases, cranks, con-artists, or trolls.
    7. There is no frigging polar hole.
    So, what you're saying is: the Illuminati did a really convincing cover up?
    1. There are no Illuminati.
    2. There is no evidence for the Illuminati.
    3. There is a lot of evidence to demonstrate the non-existence of the Illuminati.
    4. There is a plethora of historical theory that contradicts the possibility of the Illuminati.
    5. No serious historian has ever proposed the existence of the Illuminati.
    6. Those proposing the Illuminati are nutcases, cranks, con-artists, or trolls.
    7. There are no frigging Illuminati.
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    My god, they're effective, arent they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    My god, they're effective, arent they?
    And they pay well and usually quite promptly.
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    so, where is the lava comming from? why are the deepest mines getting extremely hot as you go down to the bottom? whats preventing the crust from collapsing imploding? if the earths rotation is upholding a cavity why are mines ceiling collapsing when without support instead of being help up by the rotation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by icewendigo View Post
    if the earths rotation is upholding a cavity why are mines ceiling collapsing when without support instead of being help up by the rotation?
    And why don't we have to wear magnetic boots to hold us on to the surface.

    I am really disappointed that SilverSea seems to have disappeared; he was funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    I am really disappointed that SilverSea seems to have disappeared; he was funny.
    Perhaps he fell down a hole.
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