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  1. #1 How to teleport, clone things, and Liveforever, all in one idea. 
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    Sup, I might miss spell lots of stuff and this is a first for me so here I go, I'm going off just brain storming.
    Feel free to prove me wrong.
    My idea is wild and can only begin when humans find out how to.
    Tear apart, store, and reconstruct, Protons, neutrons, and Electrons


    I Hope to understand that lots of things are made out of just protons neutrons and electrons.
    So if we can somehow rip apart anything, (garbage) ,into just those 3, Protons, neutrons, and Electrons and store them we are half way done.
    To reconstruct the Protons, neutrons, and Electrons are the other half
    ,and in time with competition us human will excel in doing the Rip, Store, and Reconstruct.

    I will call the first teleporter, where you started, (A)
    And the destination will be (B)
    Also I will be talkin about a person because an object will be not be the main point.

    now kinda like a fax machine.

    You have to Rip the Person
    and while this was happing many computer and cameras will record exactly what is happing.
    The Computers will try to understand just where everything goes, how, and in what order.

    The person will look very strange just getting turned into sand BUT,
    The Protons, neutrons, and Electrons will be divided up and stored.

    So for a seconded this person will be not in existents.


    Now, the computer takes all that it learned and turns it into 0's and 1's.
    It sends the humans Blue-Prints to (B)'s computer,

    (B)'s computer understands that it has to read the code and reconstruct the person
    There at (B) they have fully stored there teleporter with Protons, neutrons, and Electrons.

    So now like printing paper.
    it WONT send Protons, neutrons, and Electrons,
    it has matter on both ends and uses wifi or whatever to know when, and how to reconstruct.

    So that was how I think teleporting will happin in the future.
    Tell me how you think it might happen. I would like to talk about it.

    NOW!!
    That was teleporting now to how to CLONE.
    With that same machine
    Lets say you want to send FRED to the moon.

    Ok so FRED gets into (A)
    he is Ripped apart and stored there at (A)

    At (B) they load FRED and he is there and Everybody Happy...
    NOW... if you tell the computer to send FRED again it will.
    It don't need to Rip FRED again.
    (B) has all that they need.

    So , (A) sends the message again and (B) does its job.
    If you keep refilling (B) you can have many FRED's
    But the first FRED will be older then every new FRED.
    because (A) capture FRED at that time and will always send FRED as he was Ripped.

    That is how you clone. You still need matter at (B) which could be garbage.
    BUT. it makes problems and ill say all those later.


    Now to live forever...This is the one you been wantin to hear.

    Now lets say FRED in his PRIME age 21, is Ripped and reconstructed, JUST ONCE.
    just once so the computer has its FRED file to remake him.
    Now, you have the master copy, in computer form.
    You leave it until FRED needs it, When FRED's lungs get cancer
    they reconstruct FRED's 21 year old lungs. and put them in him.
    That's a quick fix but to live in Youth forever I said.

    So. with a new attachment to the original (A),(B) teleporter machine.
    This attachment will Rip and Recontruct in the same chamber.
    A 50 year old walks in and they bring up the file of him at age 21.
    He says he won the lottery and would like a Ultra Age restore.

    So they Rip what goes and reconstructs what it needs.
    Leave out the Brain tho...Now to the problems

    One, Who knows if FRED will be a soulless meat sack at (B)
    CLONE WARS.
    Matter is worthless. I can make anything,
    I throw gold into (A) and clone it.
    Giving someone a Ultra Age restore without erasing the memory.
    Like it would restore it to 21 years of age. your 50 so you lost a lot.
    it would be strange to have hunk 21 year old with alltimers (idk how to spell it yo)
    Also the biggest problem is that, We don't know how to Rip, Store, and Recontruct. hahaha


    Ok...so see ya , reply and tell me all my errors and
    I want to know any problem you feel this would have.
    Tell me anything you want, I want to hear your thoughts on this,..

    Peace..


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    P.S. don't steal my unmade futuristic Idea,
    hahaha


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    This is a common idea in science fiction, Star Trek's replicator technology works on the same principle.

    If it was possible to dis/reassemble atoms and molecules into their constituent protons, neutrons and electrons, we would achieve a kind of technological apotheosis.

    The energy requirement and computational power required renders such a process impossible, though. Not until we can harness the very stars themselves and perfect the design of quantum supercomputers.
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    Thanks for the replay dude,
    I don't see the Rip,Store, and Recontruct machine within our time
    But how do you feel about what you could do with the machine.

    Do you think if the machine did exisits somehow I could do what I claim,,?,
    Teleprot and clone and whatever to the Life forever,
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  6. #5 How to Teleport, Clone, and Live forever 
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    Sup, I might miss spell lots of stuff and this is a first for me so here I go, I'm going off just brain storming.
    Feel free to prove me wrong.
    My idea is wild and can only begin when humans find out how to.
    Tear apart, store, and reconstruct, Protons, neutrons, and Electrons


    I Hope to understand that lots of things are made out of just protons neutrons and electrons.
    So if we can somehow rip apart anything, (garbage) ,into just those 3, Protons, neutrons, and Electrons and store them we are half way done.
    To reconstruct the Protons, neutrons, and Electrons are the other half
    ,and in time with competition us human will excel in doing the Rip, Store, and Reconstruct.

    I will call the first teleporter, where you started, (A)
    And the destination will be (B)
    Also I will be talkin about a person because an object will be not be the main point.

    now kinda like a fax machine.

    You have to Rip the Person
    and while this was happing many computer and cameras will record exactly what is happing.
    The Computers will try to understand just where everything goes, how, and in what order.

    The person will look very strange just getting turned into sand BUT,
    The Protons, neutrons, and Electrons will be divided up and stored.

    So for a seconded this person will be not in existents.


    Now, the computer takes all that it learned and turns it into 0's and 1's.
    It sends the humans Blue-Prints to (B)'s computer,

    (B)'s computer understands that it has to read the code and reconstruct the person
    There at (B) they have fully stored there teleporter with Protons, neutrons, and Electrons.

    So now like printing paper.
    it WONT send Protons, neutrons, and Electrons,
    it has matter on both ends and uses wifi or whatever to know when, and how to reconstruct.

    So that was how I think teleporting will happin in the future.
    Tell me how you think it might happen. I would like to talk about it.

    NOW!!
    That was teleporting now to how to CLONE.
    With that same machine
    Lets say you want to send FRED to the moon.

    Ok so FRED gets into (A)
    he is Ripped apart and stored there at (A)

    At (B) they load FRED and he is there and Everybody Happy...
    NOW... if you tell the computer to send FRED again it will.
    It don't need to Rip FRED again.
    (B) has all that they need.

    So , (A) sends the message again and (B) does its job.
    If you keep refilling (B) you can have many FRED's
    But the first FRED will be older then every new FRED.
    because (A) capture FRED at that time and will always send FRED as he was Ripped.

    That is how you clone. You still need matter at (B) which could be garbage.
    BUT. it makes problems and ill say all those later.


    Now to live forever...This is the one you been wantin to hear.

    Now lets say FRED in his PRIME age 21, is Ripped and reconstructed, JUST ONCE.
    just once so the computer has its FRED file to remake him.
    Now, you have the master copy, in computer form.
    You leave it until FRED needs it, When FRED's lungs get cancer
    they reconstruct FRED's 21 year old lungs. and put them in him.
    That's a quick fix but to live in Youth forever I said.

    So. with a new attachment to the original (A),(B) teleporter machine.
    This attachment will Rip and Recontruct in the same chamber.
    A 50 year old walks in and they bring up the file of him at age 21.
    He says he won the lottery and would like a Ultra Age restore.

    So they Rip what goes and reconstructs what it needs.
    Leave out the Brain tho...Now to the problems

    One, Who knows if FRED will be a soulless meat sack at (B)
    CLONE WARS.
    Matter is worthless. I can make anything,
    I throw gold into (A) and clone it.
    Giving someone a Ultra Age restore without erasing the memory.
    Like it would restore it to 21 years of age. your 50 so you lost a lot.
    it would be strange to have hunk 21 year old with alltimers (idk how to spell it yo)
    Also the biggest problem is that, We don't know how to Rip, Store, and Recontruct. hahaha


    Ok...so see ya , reply and tell me all my errors and
    I want to know any problem you feel this would have.
    Tell me anything you want, I want to hear your thoughts on this,..

    Peace..
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    This thought experiment has been done for decades. There is nothing to prove wrong, since it is a thought experiment and not an idea.
    It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
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    Well you'd think people would get on It then.,,hahaha.
    We'll could you deny that if the machine somehow existed ,
    that these 3 things could be achieved. ?
    teleport, clone, live forever,...
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    We have already achieved quantum teleportation.

    A world first! Success at complete quantum teleportation | AkihabaraNews

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    e have also achieved cloning. Just have to iron out the details.
    It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
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    I think there trying to achive other things.
    But ya, I just like making it like a fax machine
    with magic everything juice which is matter.

    So I don't see it comin outta that.
    But you never know what humans will do.
    Thanks for the link it was kool..
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    Now in a more appropriate home.

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    Thanks im new, so I see now.
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    First off, Quantum teleportation is a bit of a misnomer (like "god particle") and really nothing like any form of physical teleportation. And now I'm going to suggest dropping the teleportation talk.
    As far as the replication of whole living humans goes, I don't even know what to guess about the implications. I'll leave that one alone as well.

    The part about manipulating matter on an atomic scale, fascinating and rife with an abundance of fundamental science. Although the basic idea should be the manipulation of existent atoms into molecules. The manipulation of atomic nuclei is unnecessary except in the cases of nuclear detonations and most stellar phenomena.
    Take a moment to familiarize yourself with; 3D printing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Now imagine doing this with atoms into molecules! Molecular Printing!
    Here is a favorite fiction novel of mine on the subject; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diamond_Age
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    Thank you.
    and yes
    3-D printing
    i figure this would seem like teleportation
    but its like makin a copy to distroy the first

    why do you say to drop the idea ttho
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    Whether a copy is made or not, why should the original be destroyed?
    I was some of the mud that got to sit up and look around.
    Lucky me. Lucky mud.
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    two humans shouldnt be walkin around.
    and goods wouldnt work the same.
    if you shipped out a candy bar the first should be used to make the second.
    cuz now with two candy bars no one is really makin money
    money will become worthless..
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    In the process of copying a candy bar:
    - Someone was paid for developing that specific candy bar
    - Someone was paid for marketing that candy bar
    - Someone bought the ingredients
    - Someone was paid for growing the ingredients
    - Someone was paid for processing the ingredients
    - Someone was paid for shipping the ingredients
    - Someone bought the copying machine
    - Someone was paid for designing the copying machine
    - Someone was paid for shipping the machine

    You could probably cut out the first two as more and more people make their own designs and stop buying non-copied candy bars. You can eventually cut out the last three as the machines get good enough to start copying themselves. The bits in the middle aren't going away any time soon. (There's also probably more I'm forgetting.)

    While 3D printers are certainly going to change things, and may eventually help us reach a post-scarcity society like in Star Trek (maybe), they won't suddenly make money worthless. Technology never causes the kind of economic disasters Luddites predict. (It does sometimes cause environmental disasters, but we've been able to use other technologies to overcome those.)
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    I would consider the obsolescence of money and post scarcity to be a considerable benefit.
    I was some of the mud that got to sit up and look around.
    Lucky me. Lucky mud.
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    It does sometimes cause environmental disasters, but we've been able to use other technologies to overcome those.
    Technology? I thought environmental disasters were only ever averted or ameliorated by government intervention.

    Even when there's a technology issue, it's most often like the get rid of CFCs approach to ozone depletion. The manufacturers delayed and fussed and fidgeted and slowed the international negotiations down and they only really got on board once the patents on the products were due to expire. Then they started talking about substituting less harmful chemicals.

    But there wasn't and still isn't any "technology" to deal with plastics or electronic wastes. The plastics are merely displaced, some of them to the Pacific gyre, and the electronics seem to finish up elsewhere, out of sight and out of mind of their initial users in some hellhole in an impoverished country. The most important feature of elsewhere being that it's elsewhere. Even when processes and products are known to be directly and irretrievably harmful with no possible technology to counteract that harm, companies don't stop their activities. Asbestos is a classic example. Even now when it's pretty well banned in most advanced industrial countries, mining companies can sometimes persuade governments to let them keep mining so long as the products aren't used there. Canada has a horrible lung disease problem with asbestos miners' but they still do it AM - Calls for Canada to ban asbestos exports to India 19/07/2012

    And I know of no "technology" to lessen the dangers of mining and industrial wastes and pesticides or other poisons entering water supplies. The only way this is ever controlled is by governments imposing restrictions and companies then finding technical solutions to comply with the regulations (other than the usual solutions of lobbying for regulations to be overturned or eased).
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    humans traveling at light speed becomes possible too. we are now broken down and can be beamed wherever we want at lighting speeds and reassembled.
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    @adelady, I'm not saying we've solved all our environmental issues or that technology alone solves everything, but consider things like carbon scrubbers for factories and better engines that don't need leaded gasoline to keep from knocking. Also, there's the technology needed to show that CFCs break down ozone and that that's a bad thing.
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    better engines that don't need leaded gasoline to keep from knocking
    And the only reason they were designed and manufactured as the standard engine for everyday cars was?

    Because the law said they had to do it. The technology is refined, or created in the first place, in response to government requirements.
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