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    could the universe be a speck on a toroidal vortex expanding on the way to the outer edge of the vortex before it stops and contracts in to the centre? Are there any such theories. Please forgive my ignorance, I wish to better myself and don't know enough and would greatly appreciate anyone's help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ADD Dave View Post
    could the universe be a speck on a toroidal vortex expanding on the way to the outer edge of the vortex before it stops and contracts in to the centre? Are there any such theories. Please forgive my ignorance, I wish to better myself and don't know enough and would greatly appreciate anyone's help.
    I doubt if the concept you are proposing has ever been put forward.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ADD Dave View Post
    could the universe be a speck on a toroidal vortex
    A "toroidal vortex" of/ in what?
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    Would such a model imply that the Universe started as a ring at the moment of the Big Bang, and not as a singular point?

    Or am I simply misunderstanding what you're trying to describe?
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    Not sure at this stage still developing theory either a Bigger Bang created the ring or Big Bang could have been just one universe reaching critical density due rotating contraction inwards. Then the Big Bang expansion. Just trying to thoerise about the "nothingness expansion acceleration"
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    Moving to Alternative Ideas section.
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    I find this interesting....I had thught about the future of the universe and as a result of vacuum energy and gravity, that local galactic clusters will continue to converge and form a larger, more "dense" matter, as further galaxies continue to move away. Because the density of a structure despite its mass, because increased density despite mass influences gravity, than what would occur is that with these megastructures the force of gravity will eventually result in a positive pressure/density over dark energy and thus virtually stop accelerating. But just like a vortice, than we will have these large globs of gravitational radiation. Being everything was set into motion at the sametime, assuming the big bang or inflation, they would all reach an outer limit at a similar point. Naturally what would occur is that the mass of whatever structure this is would in essence begin to move side to side in relation to the BB singularity. This would in essence create an enormous ring and would look very much like a toroidal vortice as the outer limits move side to a side. This ring no longer being matter but gravitational radiation, would simply contract and contract as it became more dense and more dense. Until eventually it would reach critical mass just like the ring of a charged black hole but with the mass/energy of the entire universe. If you look at the picture of the cosmic background radiation and its flatness, that is exactly what a universe in a toroidal vortice would look like in its initial state looking back in time. Now look at the universe, it doesn't appear too flat to me looking at the hubble photos.
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