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    if any agrees i explain
    Time passes due to rotation of earth thus cause day and night
    Motion along the orbits is neccesary for time to pass.If earth will stop its rotation then time in earth will pause
    thats what i am saying how can u say this is wrong
    rotation of earth causes day and night and if earth wont move on its orbit there will be endless day or night in different parts of the world
    so it is earth's motion is necessary then only time would pass ok i think i have given an a proper explanation


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kushagra Kirtiman View Post
    if any agrees i explain
    You've got it back to front: you should explain why you think so if people don't agree.

    And I don't.


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    So answer or contradict me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kushagra Kirtiman View Post
    So answer or contradict me
    I have answered: that answer being "I don't [agree]".
    (And that answer is also by way of being a contradiction).

    Since YOU have made the claim it's up to you to support it.
    Which part of this do you not understand?

    Edit: I see you've added more to your post.
    I feel I should point out that you haven't provided an explanation, all you've done is make an (unsupported) claim.
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    Time passes due to rotation of earth thus cause day and night
    Motion along the orbits is neccesary for time to pass.If earth will stop its rotation then time in earth will pause
    thats what i am saying how can u say this is wrong
    rotation of earth causes day and night and if earth wont move on its orbit there will be endless day or night in different parts of the world
    so it is earth's motion is necessary then only time would pass ok i think i have given an a proper explanation
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    No, once again all you have done is make claims.
    There is nothing in your "explanation" to support the contention.

    rotation of earth causes day and night and if earth wont move on its orbit there will be endless day or night in different parts of the world

    This does not, in any way, indicate that time itself will stop, simply that we won't have the usual passage of the night and day cycle.
    (And you're getting severely confused about the role of the Earth's orbit with regard to night and day).
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    ok how do define time?
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    and 365 days is caused by earth's rotation
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    and if earth stops for atleast 1 day then it would cover 366 days since 1 day passed in watches without rotation of earth
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    so no answer thats what i expected
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kushagra Kirtiman View Post
    Time passes due to rotation of earth thus cause day and night
    Motion along the orbits is neccesary for time to pass.If earth will stop its rotation then time in earth will pause
    thats what i am saying how can u say this is wrong
    rotation of earth causes day and night and if earth wont move on its orbit there will be endless day or night in different parts of the world
    so it is earth's motion is necessary then only time would pass ok i think i have given an a proper explanation
    Both the rotation of the earth and orbital trajectories are described through the geometry of world-lines in 4-dimensional space-time. Time is just a geometric aspect of said space-time, and all of this is governed by the geometric law

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kushagra Kirtiman View Post
    ok how do define time?
    A geometric dimension in a (3+1)-dimensional pseudo-Riemannian manifold endowed with a connection and a metric.
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    MODERATOR NOTE : Moved to "New Hypothesis" for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kushagra Kirtiman View Post
    so no answer thats what i expected
    What answer do you expect other than: you are wrong. Please provide some evidence to support your claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kushagra Kirtiman View Post
    if any agrees i explain
    Time passes due to rotation of earth thus cause day and night
    Motion along the orbits is neccesary for time to pass.If earth will stop its rotation then time in earth will pause
    thats what i am saying how can u say this is wrong
    rotation of earth causes day and night and if earth wont move on its orbit there will be endless day or night in different parts of the world
    so it is earth's motion is necessary then only time would pass ok i think i have given an a proper explanation
    Even if earth stopped rotating or orbiting, it would still always be in motion relative to something else. Relative motion never stops.

    Take Venus for example. It orbits once in 224.65 days, but takes 243 days to rotate once and in the opposite direction, yet there is no evidence that time passes more slowly there. In fact, every planet and the sun rotates at different speeds than the earth, but no evidence of any time anomalies are found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kushagra Kirtiman View Post
    and if earth stops for atleast 1 day then it would cover 366 days since 1 day passed in watches without rotation of earth
    I thought you were saying that watches would stop if the Earth stopped rotating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kushagra Kirtiman View Post
    and 365 days is caused by earth's rotation
    Not quite: 365 is the number of rotations per revolution around the Sun.
    The rotation of the Earth is essentially independent of the orbit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushagra Kirtiman View Post
    and if earth stops for atleast 1 day then it would cover 366 days since 1 day passed in watches without rotation of earth
    So if the Earth stops time (as measured by watches) will continue.
    Contrary to your earlier claims that "Time passes due to rotation of earth" and "If earth will stop its rotation then time in earth will pause".

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    so no answer thats what i expected
    Impatient, aren't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Impatient, aren't you?
    He doesn't have much time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Impatient, aren't you?
    He doesn't have much time.
    Maybe he should stop spinning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Maybe he should stop spinning.
    He can't. Conservation of angular momentum and all that jazz...
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    I thought cranks were good at angular momentum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus Hanke View Post
    He can't. Conservation of angular momentum and all that jazz...
    Conservation of angular momentum and conservation of jazz. Sounds good to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kushagra Kirtiman View Post
    if any agrees i explain
    Time passes due to rotation of earth thus cause day and night
    Motion along the orbits is neccesary for time to pass.If earth will stop its rotation then time in earth will pause
    thats what i am saying how can u say this is wrong
    rotation of earth causes day and night and if earth wont move on its orbit there will be endless day or night in different parts of the world
    so it is earth's motion is necessary then only time would pass ok i think i have given an a proper explanation
    I am a pretty indipendent thinker and don't follow anyone but I really do not agree with your statement. Just look at it again from different aspect and you might see it differently. Earth is not the only measuring point when it comes to time.
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