Thread: Neurology: Possibility of incapacitance

Hi,

i have recently been studying neurology and have found that a person could be brought down without the need for hand held devices. Apparently when you taser someone the voltages flow through to the brain of the person rendering them useless. This method i am approaching would be no different, only without the hand held devices. But i do have a question:

What are the different voltages associated with chemical releases in the brain? I know there is Na2 and K2

Thanks

A few tens of millivolts, maybe 100mV.
Hodgkin-Huxley_model
Action potential - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It appears that there are some good polymath here#

Originally Posted by Strange

A few tens of millivolts, maybe 100mV.
Hodgkin-Huxley_model
Action potential - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thanks for the link Strange.

I have also come to understand that the action potential can only be fired if the membrane potential for the subject has been reached. Would anyone know of any institute that can help? I've checked and emailed a bunch but still waiting on their replies.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Sci_Research

Originally Posted by Strange

A few tens of millivolts, maybe 100mV.
Hodgkin-Huxley_model
Action potential - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thanks for the link Strange.

I have also come to understand that the action potential can only be fired if the membrane potential for the subject has been reached. Would anyone know of any institute that can help? I've checked and emailed a bunch but still waiting on their replies.

Cheers

Sorry, but you are not going to get any legitimate institute interested, let alone involved. You seem to be wholly unaware that you need to induce these voltages across tiny distances (if you want to couple to the relevant cells). That, in turn, implies extremely large electric fields. Thus far, you are looking only at voltages, and that information by itself conveys very little of relevance.

The need to induce large fields is why, e.g., "tasers" use the high voltages they do. That high voltage is spread over a large distance, leaving enough to (over)stimulate nerves. It also explains why, even though we are immersed in electromagnetic fields, our nervous systems don't all shut down.

If you intend to produce taser-like effects at distance without contact, you will need to generate taser-level fields. If you don't show that you understand this fact, and if you don't show calculations supporting that you could induce such fields using whatever method you propose (lasers? radio waves?), no one will take you seriously.

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Originally Posted by Sci_Research

Sorry, but you are not going to get any legitimate institute interested, let alone involved. You seem to be wholly unaware that you need to induce these voltages across tiny distances (if you want to couple to the relevant cells). That, in turn, implies extremely large electric fields. Thus far, you are looking only at voltages, and that information by itself conveys very little of relevance.

The need to induce large fields is why, e.g., "tasers" use the high voltages they do. That high voltage is spread over a large distance, leaving enough to (over)stimulate nerves. It also explains why, even though we are immersed in electromagnetic fields, our nervous systems don't all shut down.

If you intend to produce taser-like effects at distance without contact, you will need to generate taser-level fields. If you don't show that you understand this fact, and if you don't show calculations supporting that you could induce such fields using whatever method you propose (lasers? radio waves?), no one will take you seriously.

Not necessarily true. I have been doing electronic engineering for some time and have come to understand that DC current can start from below the 0 voltage line and have a voltage peak in the negative from 0. The current is the same but just in negative form. In my research i have found that there is no need to have a sinusoidal like wave which goes positive to negative, negative to positive and vice versa. Instead the wave begins from 0 and peaks in the negative much like a DC but in the other way.

This is done by using a sinusoidal wave and then cutting off the top wave and making the bottom wave shorter or smaller in amplification. Then the wave can be modified to be rapid or slow therefore needing no magnetic field or electric field eliminating the need for them.

If you are interested in knowing more, i could share some pics with you and show you a little bit of what i am doing