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  1. #1 who is me? and who are you? 
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    looks like life is an experience, no one chose to live it, if you want you can leave from it :P but you can not see through other peoples minds and be them. so:
    1.life is seperated from a person to another
    2.its a personal experience
    3.other people live to (i live , if you also live this is proved :P )
    4.everyone thinking is living, and all of us are now living in this moment. the same time
    5.we are afraid of death even that we have never been dead, (that's just a fear anyway)
    6.without being spiritual , life is a chemical and electric reaction inside our brains giving us the feel and a chemical reaction in our body making us alive.
    7.lets be simple... we are all part of all this thing. the universe ( the animals to , dont forget them) they are not computers they live too
    8.if we are part of the same thing, is the same thing that we are.
    9.as long as the feel is electric and chemical we me and you and everyone are in the same place. and we are made of the same "things"
    10. do you believe its a coincidence that you are alive now???? put it in probability...( its so small )

    what i like to believe. we are the same thing. we are universe itself . as long we are part of it, we are universe itself. and all thise experience is never-lasting as long there is life somewhere in universe. life is chemical, and the chemicals we are made of are the same. so we are all the same feeling. sometimes i have to be you, sometimes you have to be me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sokol-ballaci View Post
    3.other people live to (i live , if you also live this is proved :P )
    NOT proven.
    Since I don't have to accept that your initial statement (that you live) is correct.

    5.we are afraid of death
    Really? Why do you suppose that?

    8.if we are part of the same thing, is the same thing that we are.
    No.

    10. do you believe its a coincidence that you are alive now???? put it in probability...( its so small )
    What?

    what i like to believe. we are the same thing. we are universe itself . as long we are part of it, we are universe itself.
    Yeah well. Belief...

    sometimes i have to be you, sometimes you have to be me.
    No.


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    I used to get like that after about 10pm........
    "And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh" Nietzsche.
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    well i live, this is not a proof?? life its separated , you can not feel my experience. of course if you don't believe from me what you know I must believe from you you have to deal to this by your self, and find a solution
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokol-ballaci View Post
    well i live, this is not a proof??
    All I have is your (unsupported) claim that you live.

    life its separated , you can not feel my experience
    So why did you say "so we are all the same feeling. sometimes i have to be you, sometimes you have to be me"?

    of course if you don't believe from me what you know I must believe from you you have to deal to this by your self, and find a solution
    But you could stop posting nonsense.
    That would help considerably.
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    hope I have passed the life that I have to be you, angry duck.... you are booring :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokol-ballaci View Post
    you are booring :P
    You mean I point out your fallacies and don't accept nonsense?
    Thank you.
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    with humor sense i like your arguments, ur a person with 'feet on the ground". well i dont have any way to prove to you at all, tho only way its me and you to share ideas, strange ideas, and diferent ideas, and even wrong ideas... sometimes being wrong is not so wrong, dont take it dramatic. life is fun . and strange.... strange things are strange. its strange to be wrong when its all strange
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokol-ballaci View Post
    with humor sense i like your arguments, ur a person with 'feet on the ground". well i dont have any way to prove to you at all, tho only way its me and you to share ideas, strange ideas, and diferent ideas, and even wrong ideas... sometimes being wrong is not so wrong, dont take it dramatic. life is fun . and strange.... strange things are strange. its strange to be wrong when its all strange


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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sokol-ballaci View Post
    with humor sense i like your arguments, ur a person with 'feet on the ground". well i dont have any way to prove to you at all, tho only way its me and you to share ideas, strange ideas, and diferent ideas, and even wrong ideas... sometimes being wrong is not so wrong, dont take it dramatic. life is fun . and strange.... strange things are strange. its strange to be wrong when its all strange




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    we are afraid of death even that we have never been dead
    Not sure what you're getting at here.

    I'm not afraid of death. I'm afraid that the process of dying might be unpleasant for me or for my family. I'd be disappointed if I discovered that I was going to die before the commonly accepted age in my family, 85+ years.

    But I really don't fear not being here any more. I've done my best with my family - and I've taken care of the family heirlooms I'm responsible for and I'm pleased that my children and their children will have them. I'd really like to be buried in a way that ensures the materials my body is made of can be easily recycled into trees, flowers and fruits and sustenance for other living things. Death of individual organisms is the way that life in general goes on. I happen to be human rather than a turtle or a parrot that can live more than a century, nor a tree that might live for thousands of years so I will die at the end of a human lifespan.
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    We came into this world with nothing and we will leave it with nothing so anything you "own" won't be with you any longer and leaving it to your family never insures that it will be taken care of.
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    ahahahhaha I could kiss ya for that one!




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    anything you "own" won't be with you any longer and leaving it to your family never insures that it will be taken care of.
    But they'd never get the chance if I didn't.

    I gave them what opportunities I could as they grew up. They'll have other kinds of opportunities when I die.
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    I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
    The Eggman is running rampant lately. Like pigs from a gun.

    Although I look at the philosophy that we are all the same person as kind of cool, I think we are pushing another boundary of belief. It is not fact, just an ability of the human mind. Who isn't fascinated by the imagination?
    All that belongs to human understanding, in this deep ignorance and obscurity, is to be skeptical, or at least cautious; and not to admit of any hypothesis, whatsoever; much less, of any which is supported by no appearance of probability...Hume
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
    The Eggman is running rampant lately. Like pigs from a gun.

    Although I look at the philosophy that we are all the same person as kind of cool, I think we are pushing another boundary of belief. It is not fact, just an ability of the human mind. Who isn't fascinated by the imagination?
    Who hasn't grown from using their imagination? *S*
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    the idea that we are one its easy if you look it from the inside. every chemical reaction and electric reaction in our minds is a reaction in this universe as long as we get simple thinking . everything you think its something happening. everything i think its happening too. the idea is that not a single thing its happening separated from this.... so everything that we think its something happening, despite the fact that we have separated brains :P thee feel is the same in the same place. is it a coincidence that we are alive??? if we are alive and we think there is no life after death , just think that before you was born you was dead( or not alive) , so when you die your brains function is over. nothing exist for you. but everything else goes despite the fact that you are not anymore. that anything else is other brains, other electrics and other places. so life goes on and on and on. and the fact that we are alive right now its not a coincidence
    high level of imagination used :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokol-ballaci View Post
    the idea is that not a single thing its happening separated from this.
    Only if you're using some weird definition of "separated".

    and the fact that we are alive right now its not a coincidence
    Wild guess.
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    separated i mean something that exists , but it actually dont exist :P for example if nothing exists , a rock somewhere its separated. becouse it exists. dont know witch word to use
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    like a paralel universe..... perhaps....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokol-ballaci View Post
    separated i mean something that exists , but it actually dont exist :P for example if nothing exists , a rock somewhere its separated. becouse it exists. dont know witch word to use
    Quote Originally Posted by sokol-ballaci View Post
    like a paralel universe..... perhaps....
    So, basically, you're using a decidedly non-standard definition of "separated" and coupling that with nonsense.
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    I exist, but I don't exist? So I eat, but I don't eat, cause I exist and yet if I don't exist I can't eat.

    I am so confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokol-ballaci View Post
    the idea that we are one its easy if you look it from the inside. every chemical reaction and electric reaction in our minds is a reaction in this universe as long as we get simple thinking . everything you think its something happening. everything i think its happening too. the idea is that not a single thing its happening separated from this.... so everything that we think its something happening, despite the fact that we have separated brains :P thee feel is the same in the same place. is it a coincidence that we are alive??? if we are alive and we think there is no life after death , just think that before you was born you was dead( or not alive) , so when you die your brains function is over. nothing exist for you. but everything else goes despite the fact that you are not anymore. that anything else is other brains, other electrics and other places. so life goes on and on and on. and the fact that we are alive right now its not a coincidence
    high level of imagination used :P
    Sounds like somebody just went to their first Chemistry 221 class!
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    This thread reminds me of this xkcd comic:
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    Quote Originally Posted by sokol-ballaci View Post
    looks like life is an experience, no one chose to live it, if you want you can leave from it :P but you can not see through other peoples minds and be them. so:
    1.life is seperated from a person to another
    Not entirely true.
    2.its a personal experience
    It's a personal experience but everything we do or don't do...affects another person...directly or indirectly...now or in the future.
    3.other people live to (i live , if you also live this is proved :P )
    ''other'' ?
    4.everyone thinking is living, and all of us are now living in this moment. the same time
    True. I think?
    5.we are afraid of death even that we have never been dead, (that's just a fear anyway)
    I don't think we fear death. We fear the unknowns and uncertainty of life, but the unknowns make life what it is.
    6.without being spiritual , life is a chemical and electric reaction inside our brains giving us the feel and a chemical reaction in our body making us alive.
    I am spiritual, so my personal view is we are connected in and to this life, body, mind and spirit.
    7.lets be simple... we are all part of all this thing. the universe ( the animals to , dont forget them) they are not computers they live too
    [quote[8.if we are part of the same thing, is the same thing that we are.
    I often think that the universe reflects back what we put into it. We get what we give, we reap what we sow. If that is how you mean this, then yes, I agree.
    9.as long as the feel is electric and chemical we me and you and everyone are in the same place. and we are made of the same "things"
    We are more than physical beings. We are intellectual and emotional beings, as well...and those are products of a myriad of things that will differ from person to person.
    10. do you believe its a coincidence that you are alive now???? put it in probability...( its so small )
    Not a coincidence, but cool that we are alive and communicating about being alive via the internet.

    what i like to believe. we are the same thing. we are universe itself . as long we are part of it, we are universe itself. and all thise experience is never-lasting as long there is life somewhere in universe. life is chemical, and the chemicals we are made of are the same. so we are all the same feeling. sometimes i have to be you, sometimes you have to be me.
    I somewhat agree, but like I sort of stated above...how we treat one another and the earth, will determine how we live our lives. What we do or don't do, will have a ripple effect ...
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