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    About Infinity. / My opinion /
    How could mere man comprehend infinity?
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    Infinity is the cause of the crisis in Physics.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity

    Why is Infinity the cause of the crisis in Physics?
    Because we don’t know what infinity is.
    The concept of infinite / eternal means nothing to scientists.
    Infinity is no ‘more ‘, ‘ less’, ‘equally’ or ‘similar’.
    The Infinity is something that could not be compared to anything.
    Considering so, scientists came to conclusion that the
    infinity cannot be considered in real processes and they
    proclaimed unwritten law:
    ‘ If we want that the theory would be correct,
    the infinity should be eliminated’ . . . . by the
    ' method of renormalization ' . . . about which Feynman wrote
    ' using this method we can these infinities sweep under a carpet '
    and then Feynman asked:
    ‘ Who can confirm that the infinity conforms with reality of nature?’
    / Book: The Character of Physical Law. Lecture 7. /
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    I will try to explain ‘infinity’ as brief and simple as is possible.
    =.
    There are billions and billions Galaxies in the
    Universe, each of which has hundreds of billions of stars.
    All these billions and billions Galaxies are divided by space,
    which we call ‘ Vacuum’.
    This Vacuum is an infinite and eternal continuum.
    Why Vacuum is infinite ?
    Because the sum of masses of all Galaxies (the cosmological
    constant / the critical density ) is as small that it cannot
    ‘ close’ the whole Universe into sphere and therefore Universe
    as whole must be ‘open’, endless, infinite.
    Only in some small local parts of this infinite Vacuum continuum
    some masses can gather together in an enough quantity to create
    stars, planets . . .etc.
    Vacuum continuum is not a simple space
    Physicists say that in vacuum ‘virtual particles’ exist and they
    can appear as real particles. Nobody knows what they are.
    Astrophysicists say that ‘dark mass- matter’ in vacuum is hidden.
    This ‘dark mass- matter’ is not ordinary matter but ‘non normal’.
    They say that more than 90% of the matter in the Universe
    is ‘non normal dark mass – matter’.
    So, from ‘ virtual particles ‘ and ‘non normal dark matter ’ were
    created all billion and billion Galaxies, including our planet Earth
    and everything on it, also including you, who reads this email.
    And because we don’t know what ‘ virtual particles ‘ and ‘dark matter’ are,
    therefore we don’t have answer to the question: who am I ?
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    Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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    Quote Originally Posted by socratus View Post
    Why is Infinity the cause of the crisis in Physics?
    There's a crisis in physics?

    Considering so, scientists came to conclusion that the infinity cannot be considered in real processes and they
    proclaimed unwritten law:
    I think you'll find that a more accurate description is that renormalisation was introduced in order to work out the mathematics. To get the maths to conform to what was observed (the "real processes").

    I will try to explain ‘infinity’ as brief and simple as is possible.
    Except that you don't "explain" - you make claims.


    This Vacuum is an infinite and eternal continuum.

    Really?
    How do you know?

    Physicists say that in vacuum ‘virtual particles’ exist and they can appear as real particles. Nobody knows what they are.

    What do you mean "nobody knows what they are"?

    Because the sum of masses of all Galaxies (the cosmological
    constant / the critical density ) is as small that it cannot‘ close’ the whole Universe into sphere and therefore Universeas whole must be ‘open’, endless, infinite.
    This appears to be a guess on your part. We simply don't know as yet.

    So, from ‘ virtual particles ‘ and ‘non normal dark matter ’ were
    created all billion and billion Galaxies, including our planet Earth and everything on it, also including you

    Evidence?


    And because we don’t know what ‘ virtual particles ‘ and ‘dark matter’ are,
    therefore we don’t have answer to the question: who am I ?
    Non-sequitur.


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    Quote Originally Posted by socratus View Post
    About Infinity. / My opinion /
    How could mere man comprehend infinity? ...
    Another rambling wall-o'-text(tm).

    What is your purpose in repeatedly posting these? You don't seem particularly interested in a true exchange of ideas, judging from prior examples. And you don't seem to know very much about science, but feel qualified to make many assertions about science, nonetheless. (Just fyi: There's no "crisis" in physics "caused" by infinity)
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    Infinity is the cause of the crisis in Physics.
    What crisis ? Physics is fine just as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus Hanke View Post
    Infinity is the cause of the crisis in Physics.
    What crisis ? Physics is fine just as it is.
    Actually, I was worried about The Ultraviolet Catastrophe, until I got to the next page of the book I was reading. Thank you Max Planck.
    I was some of the mud that got to sit up and look around.
    Lucky me. Lucky mud.
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    Bookmark the Trash Can, Socratus. You're going to spend a lot of time there.
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    You are thinking about the infinity of the universe and forgot about the infinity within a particle of matter. Infinity is not the cause of a crisis in Physics but the fact that the finite, the place we live, is between the infinities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidAuthor View Post
    and forgot about the infinity within a particle of matter.
    Huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by davidAuthor View Post
    and forgot about the infinity within a particle of matter.
    Huh?
    It'll be a bit of a squeeze, but I think we can do it if we move things around a bit. Let's try putting the dining table over there and ...
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    With a name like Israel Sadovnik Socratus , I would have thought you were automatically smart. I guess I was wrong.
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    Infinite energies of fields and infinite densities, i.e. singularities, follow from incompletness of the mainstream theories. They follow from the fact that we neglect the internal structure of the bare particles. Then, to fit the theoretical results to experimental data there appear the approximations, mathematical tricks and free parameters. For example, in the QED appear the three additional free parameters i.e. the regularization Z, mass of electron and its electric charge. I must emphasize that the basic physical constants are in the mainstream theories the parameters as well. We cannot calculate them within the mainstream theories. These theories does not lead to origin of the basic physical constants as well.

    We need the lacking part of ultimate theory i.e. the theory of bare particles and theory of basic physical constants.
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    Cranks just can't help themselves. I'm not sure if it is just a sort of verbal incontinence which forces them to spout the same nonsense in multiple threads. Or some sort of ego problem;a desire to be noticed.

    But they all behave the same way. Another way of identifying your typical crackpot.
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    You still write THE SAME nonsensical posts.

    You write them to increase the number of your posts. Are you an ill person?
    Strange and Neverfly like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylwester Kornowski View Post
    You still write THE SAME nonsensical posts.

    You write them to increase the number of your posts. Are you an ill person?
    Nice mirroring.
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