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    Quote Originally Posted by dapifo View Post
    What do you mean?... Do you know about the Calabi-yau 6D shapes?...SR/GR and QM donīt say any thing about the dimensions out of OUR UNIVERSE.
    General relativity models the universe as a FOUR dimensional space-time manifold.
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    What do you mean?... Do you know about the Calabi-yau 6D shapes?...SR/GR and QM donīt say any thing about the dimensions out of OUR UNIVERSE.
    General relativity models the universe as a FOUR dimensional space-time manifold.
    Yes...but WHITHIN Our Universe...but they donīt say anything about OUT of it
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    and you suppose your idea says so,and if so what do you expect the 5d should or would look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by merumario View Post
    and you suppose your idea says so,and if so what do you expect the 5d should or would look like?
    An extra space dimension (4th)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapifo View Post
    An extra space dimension (4th)
    Where is the evidence for this extra spatial dimension? What effect would it have on the equations of General Relativity?
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    i second stranges question....or do you think it will have no effect or what so ever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    An extra space dimension (4th)
    Where is the evidence for this extra spatial dimension? What effect would it have on the equations of General Relativity?
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    i second stranges question....or do you think it will have no effect or what so ever?


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    then the universe will be entirely different as we see it....it will call for change of many laws of physics......even that of cosmology introduced to me by strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merumario View Post
    then the universe will be entirely different as we see it....it will call for change of many laws of physics......even that of cosmology introduced to me by strange.
    NO...only would change the view we have of it and its models and patterns...but the universe is allways the same..and the underlaying laws also are the same...but we have to model them....
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    i am not sure if they will be the,,,the cosmological principle holds that there is nothing special about our position in the universe....supposing that it is an open universe then we would have to real model everything, em waves would be checked for so as to tell what goes in and comes out,or what could be out there.....at then i believe that the saying would be different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merumario View Post
    Looks like crap is increasing with time elapsing for us in this forum...whats your definition of rainbow? Can someone take this to the trash can?
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    i am not sure if they will be the,,,the cosmological principle holds that there is nothing special about our position in the universe....supposing that it is an open universe then we would have to real model everything, em waves would be checked for so as to tell what goes in and comes out,or what could be out there.....at then i believe that the saying would be different.
    merumario....what did change from your first post...are you thinking that the RAINBOW idea is not so bad?

    Please, if you read the article ...there are well explained most of your questions...then we can talk...but no without reading the article deeper...thnks

    http://matryoshka-dimension.blogspot.com.es/

    Which is your studies background?...anr you studing now?...you seem that donīt have many physics bases....
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    and you suppose you do? physics is physical nature...no one knows more about nature....you do not appear to be a good physics freak also...you sound more like an idealist....i also hold philosophy near my heart......but am a skeptist not an idealist....my ideas grow from asking why,how....whats your stand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by merumario View Post
    and you suppose you do? physics is physical nature...no one knows more about nature....you do not appear to be a good physics freak also...you sound more like an idealist....i also hold philosophy near my heart......but am a skeptist not an idealist....my ideas grow from asking why,how....whats your stand?
    Ok ...but what is your degree... naturalist, philosophy,...nothing...
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    not everything that counts can be counted not everything that can be counted counts....
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    Quote Originally Posted by merumario View Post
    not everything that counts can be counted not everything that can be counted counts....
    poet, philosopher, comic, ...?...secret?...then nothing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dapifo View Post
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    not everything that counts can be counted not everything that can be counted counts....
    poet, philosopher, comic, ...?...secret?...then nothing...
    who really are you,that you expect me to drop my cv to? Theres only one way to show what you have gotten...just keep posting whats in your head..mix it up with fairy tales dear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merumario View Post
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    not everything that counts can be counted not everything that can be counted counts....
    poet, philosopher, comic, ...?...secret?...then nothing...
    who really are you,that you expect me to drop my cv to? Theres only one way to show what you have gotten...just keep posting whats in your head..mix it up with fairy tales dear.
    What I said...nothing !!!
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