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    Hi

    How to prepare anti-aging meals?
    I know that sounds narcissistic, but since egyptian epoch humans tried to discover the method to delay aging.

    Can science really give any culinary clues to delay aging?

    Alicia Silverstone's Naked Vegetarian PETA PSA | PETA.org

    Is she challenging the American Nutrition Society?
    Is vegan diet proven to be safe?


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    There are good reason to limit intake of meat, dairy and especially fats. A vegan diet is hard work to maintain intake of essential nutrients.

    A mostly vegetable diet with occasional meat meals, or with very small amounts of meat daily, is the easiest to keep up with. But remember diet is only part of it. Including a fair amount of exercise, lots of walking and similar routine exercise, with a regular burst of raising the heart rate type exercise is a good long term strategy.

    (Note: PETA sounds like a good organisation, but they're seriously over the top. It seems sensible to reconsider having pets - esp for people who are obviously clueless about exercising or maintaining the health of their animals. But when you hear a PETA spokesperson advocating with a straight face that sheep dogs, guide dogs, rescue dogs and other companion/service animals [that have been bred specifically because they have an aptitude for this work] should be left to 'run free' and never "exploited" by humans, you know they have a questionable grasp on reality.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by bezoar View Post
    Hi
    I know that sounds narcissistic, but since egyptian epoch humans tried to discover the method to delay aging.
    Since egyptian epoch, humans tried to be immortal. They failed. So, why wouldn't I eat what I like while I am alive ? Is it so important to live a long life ? Or is it better to live the way you want to live ? So, if you feel like eating vegetarian, just do it, don't search for any medical or metaphysical justification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    There are good reason to limit intake of meat, dairy and especially fats. A vegan diet is hard work to maintain intake of essential nutrients.
    How hindus of Punjab follows a lacto-vegetarian diet since eons?

    A mostly vegetable diet with occasional meat meals, or with very small amounts of meat daily, is the easiest to keep up with. But remember diet is only part of it. Including a fair amount of exercise, lots of walking and similar routine exercise, with a regular burst of raising the heart rate type exercise is a good long term strategy.
    Oils are indispensable to cook meat. Unsaturated fats go rancid more quickly--oxidation, free radicals-- but are generally perceived as better in how the body metabolizes fat.

    In oils, you can create undesirable chemicals near the smoke point of the oil but is relatively stable below that point. More so in unsaturated oils as they have more points for bonding than saturated fats. heated oils and free radicals
    No way, eating meat implies to add undesirable free redicals to our bodies, Lol.

    (Note: PETA sounds like a good organisation, but they're seriously over the top. It seems sensible to reconsider having pets - esp for people who are obviously clueless about exercising or maintaining the health of their animals. But when you hear a PETA spokesperson advocating with a straight face that sheep dogs, guide dogs, rescue dogs and other companion/service animals [that have been bred specifically because they have an aptitude for this work] should be left to 'run free' and never "exploited" by humans, you know they have a questionable grasp on reality
    Are you saying Alicia's page on PETA consist in recipes which lack indispensable nutritional elements, ergo she is selling the image of 'my secret is my veganism' but the everybody in their insides suspect she is an omnivore?

    Embarrassing, irrespectful
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    Quote Originally Posted by caKus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bezoar View Post
    Hi
    I know that sounds narcissistic, but since egyptian epoch humans tried to discover the method to delay aging.
    Since egyptian epoch, humans tried to be immortal. They failed. So, why wouldn't I eat what I like (donnuts, frankenstein candies, etc.) while I am alive ? Is it so important to live a long life?
    Not to live long, to live short; but with high vitalogy, extreme wellness. As the Jesus Christ of science [N. Tesla] taught us in his holy gospel: The_Problem_Of_Increasing_Human_Energy. The Problem Of Increasing Human Energy: With Special Reference to the ... - Nikola Tesla - Google Books

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    Or is it better to live the way you want to live ? So, if you feel like eating vegetarian, just do it, don't search for any medical or metaphysical justification
    Anti-scientific reasoning. Moderator!
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    I don't know anything about the recipes. I do know that there are essential nutrients which can't be obtained from a vegan diet. Lacto-vegetarians don't have the same problems unless they're silly about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    I don't know anything about the recipes. I do know that there are essential nutrients which can't be obtained from a vegan diet. Lacto-vegetarians don't have the same problems unless they're silly about it.
    Valine?
    b-12?
    I see no moral implications in lacto-ovo-vegetarianism. Neither aesthetic, hygienic implications.
    How all herbivores can store b-12 thru plants? Why humans can't store it in the same way?

    A well-founded site on vegetalism Beyond Vegetarianism--Raw Food, Vegan, Fruitarian, Paleo Diets
    They didn't investigate Hindu Vegetarianism, perhaps the most important source of the topic, ever. A control group.
    Flagrant omission. I cant believe this!
    Anti-scientifics, anti-Galilei, anti-Giordano Brunos!

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    Why humans can't store it in the same way?
    There are plenty of things we can't store or manufacture for ourselves. Vitamin C is one of the best known that we can't manufacture - we have to get it from our diet. Minerals have to be obtained from our diet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    Why humans can't store it in the same way?
    There are plenty of things we can't store or manufacture for ourselves. Vitamin C is one of the best known that we can't manufacture - we have to get it from our diet. Minerals have to be obtained from our diet.
    You could define lacto-vegetarian diet as an anti-natural diet? An absurd culinary tradition adopted by dogmatic hindus?

    I always felt heaten oil of meat was nasty, unhealthy. Now i have a scientific confirmation: In oils, you can create undesirable chemicals near the smoke point of the oil but is relatively stable below that point. More so in unsaturated oils as they have more points for bonding than saturated fats.

    This is an important concept for me: guilt-free.
    I only feel serene when eat guilt-free food. Indeed when somebody asked me why i not drink beers, i answered because i fund no scientific evidence that alcohol can improve brain functions?

    Am i a nerd, an odditie? or most people are thoughtless chimps imitators o' non-reductionist manners?

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    PETA? That's as far as I'm going to read. Nothing good comes from PETA. Or sane.
    It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
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    You could define lacto-vegetarian diet as an anti-natural diet?
    No I wouldn't. In fact it's very close to how I eat for several weeks of the summer.

    However, people who have such a diet and then impose more restrictions for some reason or other (religion, weight 'control', fad diets) are much more at risk of nutritional deficiencies than people who are omnivores. Being an omnivore does not mean that you must have meat every meal, every day or even every week. So long as you have some animal or fish protein from time to time, you'll be fine if the rest of your diet is mostly vegetables with a reasonable input of carbs and some fats from somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    However, people who have such a diet and then impose more restrictions for some reason or other (religion, weight 'control', fad diets) are much more at risk of nutritional deficiencies than people who are omnivores.
    Vegetarianism exist in occidental societies Otto Allen - Closing down:Social Vegans & Vegetarians Perth (see note) (Perth) - Meetup
    If it implies much more risk of nutritional deficiences, why they think it is a healthier choice?

    Im confused. If what you claimed is an uncontrobetible truth; wouldn't lean meat + vegetables a more intelligent choice? Instead of b-12 vitamin consumption, they could buy meat in a store certified with Good Animal Husbandry Practices (Ethic husbandry).
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    I don't recall Hindus of the Punjab having particularly extended lifespans...
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    There is a lot of evidence that limited meat, fish and sea food, might be more healthy. Although a number of vegetarians are so because of health reasons, most do it for moral reasons. Most Hindus are vegetarians and do it for moral (religious) reasons. Many Buddhists are also vegetarians and do it because of their spiritual beliefs. Most Vegans are vegetarians for moral reasons, in that they dislike the killing and mistreatment of animals if it is not needed, except for taste. I have read that about 2/3 of vegetarians, for non-religious reasons, are women.

    I am a vegetarian atheist and am so primarily for moral reasons. I make up my own morals I also realize life could be more healthful if diet is somewhat controlled. There are many known behaviors that can likely lengthen ones life, generally without decreasing its quality. Everybody needs to follow their own path, but there are no seconds in the game of life -- so it's best to make every effort to make your one life better. Extending one's life is a great thing if one is enjoying life for most of its extent. Although I like meat, fish, etc. I do not eat them, and do not miss it. I've been eating this way for 50 years since my late teens, and am healthy, very strong, and happy
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